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Are web 2.0 properties backlinks valuable?

by thegrandimkm
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Alright, so there are some facts that i know, do correct me if i am wrong.

1. Sites like squidoo(pr-7) and hubpages(pr-6) have high pr.
2. You may create articles on these to gain good backlinks.

Now, my question is that since pagerank belongs to a particular page only, and only the homepage of these sites carry that high pr, if we even get a backlink from creating pages on these sites, how much seo value will it have and will it pass on that high pagerank ?
Will that article page have that much pr too?
Cause if it doesnt, isnt it useless to waste time posting articles to get backlinks from them?

Thanks
#backlinks #properties #valuable #web
  • Profile picture of the author It Is Me
    So, how do you want to get the backlinks?

    If we apply the same rule to all the backlink strategies then all the links will be useless!
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    • Profile picture of the author falcott
      Should I just give up now? :p

      Actually, you could build backlinks to your backlinks. That'll juice them up if you're really concerned about losing the PR.

      But it's all theory until you try it.
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      • Profile picture of the author thegrandimkm
        Lets consider, I'll create squidoo lenses that will contain the backlink(s).
        Then will the backlink from "squidoo.com/mysquidoolens" be of much worth?
        What link juice will it pass?
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  • Profile picture of the author dburk
    Originally Posted by thegrandimkm View Post

    Alright, so there are some facts that i know, do correct me if i am wrong.

    1. Sites like squidoo(pr-7) and hubpages(pr-6) have high pr.
    Hi thegrandimkm,

    Wrong, sites do not have PR, PageRank is assigned to individual pages within a site.

    Originally Posted by thegrandimkm View Post

    2. You may create articles on these to gain good backlinks.
    Yes, you may, but creating an article on those sites isn't what makes it a good backlink. Your articles needs to be relevant and valuable, with a lot of targeted traffic to be a good backlink. It is possible to create good backlinks on those sites, but it isn't the site, or the domain name that makes it valuable, it is the targeted traffic and other factors that make it good.

    Originally Posted by thegrandimkm View Post

    Now, my question is that since pagerank belongs to a particular page only, and only the homepage of these sites carry that high pr, if we even get a backlink from creating pages on these sites, how much seo value will it have and will it pass on that high pagerank ?
    As I stated above, the site, or domain name that you create a pge on has nothing to do with it's value, it is the links that point at that page, and the content on that page that makes it valuable.[/quote]
    Originally Posted by thegrandimkm View Post

    Will that article page have that much pr too?
    The page's PR is totally dependent on the links that point to that page. It doesn't matter which website, or domain name it is on, just which backlinks point to it.

    Originally Posted by thegrandimkm View Post

    Cause if it doesnt, isnt it useless to waste time posting articles to get backlinks from them?
    Not necessarily a waste of time, it is a waste if you are relying solely on some kind of magic PR to emanate from the domain name, it doesn't work that way.

    Where you do sometimes benefit from posting articles on community websites is that the website may provide links from other pages of the website that point to your article, and if they do you could pickup community traffic which will be beneficial, and may earn you natural backlinks and bookmarks, along with targeted traffic.

    Additionally, you can often benefit from participation in that community, by visiting other members pages, and commenting on them, you may spark interest in your profile that leads people to read your articles. That traffic could follow your links to your main website, thus sending you targeted traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author thegrandimkm
      Originally Posted by dburk View Post

      Hi thegrandimkm,

      Wrong, sites do not have PR, PageRank is assigned to individual pages within a site.



      Yes, you may, but creating an article on those sites isn't what makes it a good backlink. Your articles needs to be relevant and valuable, with a lot of targeted traffic to be a good backlink. It is possible to create good backlinks on those sites, but it isn't the site, or the domain name that makes it valuable, it is the targeted traffic and other factors that make it good.



      As I stated above, the site, or domain name that you create a pge on has nothing to do with it's value, it is the links that point at that page, and the content on that page that makes it valuable.......

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
    Aside from the sites trust factor, each individual web2.0 have different class c ip's. As you may know, having a bazillion links pointing to your site from different domains, if they are all on the same ip, you will essentially gain, well, only one of those links will 'count'.

    Plus, posting on different web2.0's look like they are coming from other people, people besides you. They say 'high pr web2.0' as being a good thing, not because your pages will automatically have high pr by posting to them, but because these sites are trusted as an authority source. Ultimately, your page will gain views, and that traffic plus the trust factor of the site both play a role in the strength of the page, and the links within them.
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  • Profile picture of the author rowanman28
    I got a Hub Pages article up to a PR 2 by making multiple back links to it to build a link pyramid. It still doesn't seem like it's as good a quality back link as a PR 2 back link from a related site, but it's not too bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author bodmov
    Actually can Google penalize for these kind of links?I've heard its possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
      Originally Posted by bodmov View Post

      Actually can Google penalize for these kind of links?I've heard its possible.
      Google can penalize for any kind of links, if they get a hint that you are the one posting them. Thats why you use different names, emails, etc. Low quality 'thin' articles are also a giveaway. Don't treat these as throwaway pages.. treat them like you are posting on your own site.

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  • Profile picture of the author bodmov
    Ok, I agree with you.

    Let's say I hide my footprints, am I at risk?
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  • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
    What exactly at risk for? Unless you did some sort of mass posting that would clue them in as them being artificial.. by mass linking, I'm talking like 1000/day or something like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author imseo60
    Web 2.0 backlinks is killer when it comes to quality back-linking and ranking your site. I have ranked many low competing keywords using Web 2.0 sites alone. In today's SEO world Web 2.0 backlinks are very important if you want to rank your sites to the top.

    Most of the quality articles/post on Web 2.0 sites like Squidoo and Hubpages gain PR very fast you can get PR2-5 very quickly if you do the right things. I myself own many Web 2.0 blog post which are having high PRs i use them to get high PR backlink to my money site.

    There are many ways you can utilize Web 2.0 backlinks to your advantage.
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  • Profile picture of the author shg
    I have one lens on squidoo which is PR2 and it passes 0.022 link value but my site is ranking on top 20 in yahoo and top 30 in bing with google on 146. Its about only one keyword and which is not too competitive, i mean its low competition but still its good for experiment. I am going to do some more experiment and then i will use it for my money site....

    I know web 2.0 do not harm you if you do slowly and with plan then its gonna help you to rank higher...
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by MonsterCash4u View Post

      can someone tell me how i could get my site --- to at least a pagerank 1? I have been working on this site and still have a lot more to build but im seems like im not really getting anywhere "traffic wise"
      Post that site all over FB and target a bunch of people in California. Post it on Tumblr, and it's done deal. =P
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    • Profile picture of the author shg
      Originally Posted by MonsterCash4u View Post

      can someone tell me how i could get my site --- to at least a pagerank 1? I have been working on this site and still have a lot more to build but im seems like im not really getting anywhere "traffic wise"

      what strategies have you used so far and which keywords are you targeting?

      i will try to help you if i can...

      thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Mr. Murf
        I have been using social networking, facebook, twitter, google, youtube, ect. I have been trying to build links in related sites and I've done a bit of On Page SEO. The keyword i rank for is "marijuana cash crop" but I want to rank high for lots of others like "how to grow marijuana" and many others
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        • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
          Originally Posted by MonsterCash4u View Post

          I have been using social networking, facebook, twitter, google, youtube, ect. I have been trying to build links in related sites and I've done a bit of On Page SEO. The keyword i rank for is "marijuana cash crop" but I want to rank high for lots of others like "how to grow marijuana" and many others
          Tellin you man, post a lot of that stuff on Tumblr. You got a big damn community in that network. You don't even need search engine traffic anymore. Just look at the type of shit they post. It's either drugs, sex, drugs, drugs, drugs, Lil Wayne, hip hop, hypebeast stuff, and then drugs. drugs. drugs. drugs.

          Post some high quality pictures (since Tumblr is ALL about pictures), tag it appropriately, and have a link to your site. And tons of people will reblog it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mr. Murf
            thanks for the info!!! I will defiantly do, I think I already have a account for this but I haven't really updated it.
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            • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
              Originally Posted by MonsterCash4u View Post

              thanks for the info!!! I will defiantly do, I think I already have a account for this but I haven't really updated it.
              Np. Trust me spend a lot of time in there. That's a HUGE market for your niche. You'll see what I'm talking about once you follow people and see their posts.
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        • Profile picture of the author shg
          Originally Posted by MonsterCash4u View Post

          I have been using social networking, facebook, twitter, google, youtube, ect. I have been trying to build links in related sites and I've done a bit of On Page SEO. The keyword i rank for is "marijuana cash crop" but I want to rank high for lots of others like "how to grow marijuana" and many others
          Try yourself and if you still do not get rankings then let me know and i will develop one strategy for you and give it to you so then you can work on it and see do you rank or not...my strategy will be full proof of panda and penguin updates so you should not be worried...

          Good Luck!
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