Someone sent views to Katie's YouTube video -- and killed her Adsense account. Yikes!

11 years ago

Ah well, at least we now know how to take out our competition :-)

I know she's annoyed but posting videos on Youtube swearing like that isn't going to help her cause in regards to Youtube reconsidering.

I would be pi**ed though!

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11 years ago

Ah well, at least we now know how to take out our competition :-)

Surely someone will launch a WSO
selling a software product to automate that process!

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Your Brand Ebooks

When she says "partnership" I assume she's referring to a YouTube advertising partnership, which I believe YouTube offers to video authors when they achieve a certain number of views. By accepting YT's partnership offer, video author agrees to have ads shown at beginning of their video, and on their channel page & individual vid pages, in return for a revenue share of the ads.

Correct, and as with regular Adsense sites, one of the biggest NO NO's is sending paid traffic to your ads. That's why they shut her down (whether it was her or not).

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yukon Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

Correct, and as with regular Adsense sites, one of the biggest NO NO's is sending paid traffic to your ads.

That's not necessarily true.

I have some joker sending content locker traffic to one of my Adsense sites (paid traffic), it's been going on for about 3 months now (everyday). Still have an active Adsense account.
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Originally Posted by Your Brand Ebooks

Surely someone will launch a WSO
selling a software product to automate that process!

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I bet someone will!
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  google isn't always the bad guy when someone loses their adsense account.
  
  you have to look at both sides of adsense. in this particular case since she is getting paid views to her video, this drops the advertiser click through rate and google doesn't want advertisers having to pay for clicks and the customer is a "fake" customer. That wouldn't be good for google (less advertisers buying) nor for the advertiser (less customers buying, yet the same in adwords expenditure).
  
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Your Brand Ebooks 11 years ago

"This is me. This is me, and my angry face"

LOL when she said that in her video,
it sounded exactly like my daughter's 2nd grade teacher!
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11 years ago

Oh wow. That just blows. You have to be extra careful these days, you'll never know when your competitor strikes with such a low, cheap shot.

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11 years ago

Look at the bright side: she made $5!

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Matthew Anton

11 years ago

You failed to leave out the part where she posted a Fiverr video on her channel. If you're a serious partner you dont mix fiverr with your real business YT account. Just my opinion, because you know people are reckless with $5 and will do whatever to rank their videos.

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Your Brand Ebooks 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Matthew Anton

You failed to leave out the part where she posted a Fiverr video on her channel.

As part of their online business, Fiverr sellers
will post YT videos showing examples of their work.
In their Fiverr gigs they often include a link to their YT channel.

Originally Posted by Matthew Anton

If you're a serious partner you dont mix fiverr with your real business YT account.

Good point Matthew, and after seeing what happened
to that Fiverr seller, we now all realize that it may be a good
idea to create a separate YT account for your Fiverr client samples.

One of the main take aways of the original OP
was that anyone can mess with anyone else's Adsense account.

Originally Posted by PerformanceMan

Look at the bright side: she made $5!

Damn straight!

btw for those who don't know, Fiverr sellers only get 4 bucks.
Fiverr.com pockets the other dollar.

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seregap

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Matthew Anton

You failed to leave out the part where she posted a Fiverr video on her channel.

you failed to see a business model in there. make videos for fiverr customers >>> post on own channel >>> watch fiverr customers promote "their" videos >>> get paid by youtube (plus the fivers lol)
im sure she made some nice moola while it worked if she had good volumes

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by seregap

you failed to see a business model in there. make videos for fiverr customers >>> post on own channel >>> watch fiverr customers promote "their" videos >>> get paid by youtube (plus the fivers lol)
im sure she made some nice moola while it worked if she had good volumes

Yes, but we all know Fiverr can be a cesspool which is why I went "yup" once I heard the word Fiverr come out of her mouth - pretty important / central reason to the ban.

You can't expect someone on Fiverr to not promote the video they just paid you $5 for, considering another $5 can get that same video a couple thousand views. It's like sending an Xrumer blast to a guest post...hey it's not your site

(I don't do this..but it happens)

But yes, I agree that implications for this are scary. I got my Squidoo account banned because I was Squidbombed with likes (making $100 passive each month too). When you deal with other networks you have to be Mr. Rogers or things can go *poof*

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Matthew Anton

You can't expect someone on Fiverr to not promote the video they just paid you $5 for, considering another $5 can get that same video a couple thousand views. It's like sending an Xrumer blast to a guest post...hey it's not your site

(I don't do this..but it happens)

yes. thats why i said "while it worked" )) im sure she had customers blasting videos with likes and all sorts of bs links before and was enjoying it cuz it was making her money.

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Clintin

11 years ago

LMAO!

So she is blaming the person that she did the Fiverr gig for? That's funny, how would that person know she is a YouTube Partner(Adsense).

Plus most sellers on Fiverr who does videos such as Testimonials and Product Video gigs, usually just send the video directly to that person through Fiverr and never go through YouTube.

When I got banned from Adsense I was like "Oh well, sh** happens"

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JohnMcCabe

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Newbiemarketer76

I wanted to get into adsense really bad but am now having my doubts. I wonder how many adsense accounts they just terminate to keep people's money. Since they can do whatever they want in what is still the after effects of WW2. I won't go into it here. Just remember who owns FB and google.

I really doubt that they just terminate accounts to keep a few dollars one time. Even if you have a few thousand (I lost about $700), that's still less than chump change to Google.

Remember, Adsense is a revenue share proposition. If you are making Google money and there is no trouble, why would they cut off a source of recurring income in order to confiscate a few crumbs?

Besides, when they do confiscate the money in an account, it's refunded to the advertisers.

And last time I looked, several thousand stockholders collectively owned both Google and Facebook...:rolleyes:

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jackcarr

11 years ago

anyone with a Adsense account can now be a partner, its not as hard as it used to be, you just need to link your youtube with adsense there is no "partner programme" like there used to be, everyone can now make money.

This technique has been used for a long time, same with websites you know someone just started an adsense site and you dont like them, spam clicks from 3 IP's they get banned a couple weeks later.

Google does not really protect the guys working hard, why cant they just not pay out for the fake clicks why do they have to ban you outright, just seems silly

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Your Brand Ebooks 11 years ago

Originally Posted by jackcarr

Google does not really protect the guys working hard, why cant they just not pay out for the fake clicks why do they have to ban you outright, just seems silly

Google will screw their own advertisers
until they're hit with a class action.
That's what happened before...

Years ago when Google's advertisers had their accounts compromised by click fraud (I was one of them, and even showed proof to Google from a third-party click monitoring service), Google didn't side with their own advertisers. They made the advertisers pay their advertising bills, including the fraudulent charges. It wasn't until the class action lawsuit that Google changed their practices.

Likewise Paypal didn't protect their sellers in certain types of digital goods disputes. That changed though after a class action lawsuit. And we all know how eBay treats their sellers--terrible! Do a YouTube search for "screw ebay" and "fck ebay" and you'll find scores of videos of really pissed off ebay sellers yelling at eBay, and telling how they got screwed over, then yelling some more.

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karlmay1980

11 years ago

There isnt really much hope of getting things set back up, Google never really listen to people and partners when they feel a breach of their Terms and Conditions has been made.

It is a shame someone can do this to other users, but unfortunately that is how Google works.

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11 years ago

Lucky girl... now she doesn't have to waste anymore time on Adsense.

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JohnMcCabe 11 years ago

I lost my Adsense account when I got cross-wise of a syndicate that was stealing my content for their Adsense splogs. I won't tell you exactly what they did, as I don't want to run a clinic on how to screw people over, but it resulted in the dreaded "represents a risk to our advertisers" email. I went through the appeals process and was fortunate enough to get a real person to respond.

The bottom line was, it didn't matter if the problem was something you did or not. Whatever you did do to bring the problem on could happen again. So they cut you loose, and don't look back.

While I was pissed off at the time, it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I had to develop other ways to ring the register.
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Your Brand Ebooks

A Fiverr seller lost her Adsense account and
YouTube partnership, due to purchased video views.

Partnership GONE Adsense Removed

Interesting thing is, someone else (not her)
purchased the views to her YT video.

...So, if you're using Adsense together with YouTube,
then aparently it's possible for someone to kill your Adsense
account and YT partnership? Dang!

Edit:
When she says "partnership" in above video, I assume she's referring to a YouTube advertising partnership, which I believe YouTube offers to video authors when they achieve a certain number of views. By accepting YT's partnership offer, video author agrees to have ads shown at beginning of their video, and on their channel page & individual vid pages, in return for a revenue share of the ads.
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YouTube will take down your videos and close your YouTube account as well if they catch you getting paid views. So, if you have videos up that you are benefiting from...don't push it. Views, comments and likes drive videos, but paid views will tank you quick

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Newbiemarketer76

11 years ago

I wanted to get into adsense really bad but am now having my doubts. I wonder how many adsense accounts they just terminate to keep people's money. Since they can do whatever they want in what is still the after effects of WW2. I won't go into it here. Just remember who owns FB and google.

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Anton543

11 years ago

Well, Google has apparently made it it difficult for people to be banned form Adsense,whereas before people had almost no right. They would just send an email without any recourse. So, even if someone went on a click spree to have soomeone else banned, it quite often worked. But now Google takes a serious look at an account before wielding the axe. In fact, they are more likely to just discount those fraudulent clicks so long as the site owner had no direct or indirect involvement.

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FredJones 11 years ago

Tough way to lose an Adsense account. At the same time, it was probably not a wise idea to let your Adsense account be of interest to someone else (in this case, her Fiverr clients)...
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11 years ago

yeah, lets go kill the Comp

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Mike Hill

11 years ago

Wow that's 1:33 I'll never get back. Her YouTube channel was just a lot of cleavage and useless content anyway.

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Its Trish 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Hill

Her YouTube channel was just a lot of cleavage and useless content anyway.

Hold on mister! How would you know that, unless you went to her channel and watched her cleavage videos!

Originally Posted by Mike Hill

Wow that's 1:33 I'll never get back.

I think you mean, "that's 2:48:31 I'll never get back"
taking into account all those cleavage videos you watched!
hahaha!
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TuNguyen 11 years ago

Hold up-- did someone say cleavage???

Originally Posted by Mike Hill

Wow that's 1:33 I'll never get back. Her YouTube channel was just a lot of cleavage and useless content anyway.
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Banned 11 years ago

Nice hair in the OP video. :rolleyes:

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Mkcoy

Banned 11 years ago

lol owned. Deal with it. While I do feel for here, she f'd up by putting ads on that video that wasn't even hers but was on her YT channel. Well what did she expect was going to happen?

Sorry but this is her fault completely she can't go blaming someone else and then sending that person a nasty email scorning them for doing that.

Did she have any rules in place in the first place for her clients?

If not then - 100% her fault.

Google give no second chances. One strike and you're out. Theres no excuse for not following their rules. You are expected to know them and wear them around the tablet of your heart.

Oh well looks like she'll have to go out and get a real job finally oh the horror.

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Your Brand Ebooks

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mkcoy

she f'd up by putting ads on that video that wasn't even hers but was on her YT channel. Well what did she expect was going to happen?

Mkoy, she didn't put any ads on the video.

She made a video for a customer as part of her fiverr gig.
Then she uploaded the video to your YT account
so that she could use it as part of her client samples portfolio
for other prospective fiverr customers to view.

...but, the guy who she made the fiverr video for,
decided to artificially jack up the views on that video.

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Mkcoy

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Your Brand Ebooks

Mkoy, she didn't put any ads on the video.

She made a video for a customer as part of her fiverr gig.
Then she uploaded the video to your YT account
so that she could use it as part of her client samples portfolio
for other prospective fiverr customers to view.

...but, the guy who she made the fiverr video for,
decided to artificially jack up the views on that video.

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Yeah because she had ads on that video. She had linked her Adsense account to her YT account and the video was monetized. Otherwise they wouldn't care.

Edit: Maybe someone should give her this link.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Your Brand Ebooks

Mkoy, she didn't put any ads on the video.

She made a video for a customer as part of her fiverr gig.
Then she uploaded the video to your YT account
so that she could use it as part of her client samples portfolio
for other prospective fiverr customers to view.

...but, the guy who she made the fiverr video for,
decided to artificially jack up the views on that video.

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You need to watch the video again. She created videos and put them on her yet channel which had adsense on and then the guy sent paid traffic to it. She clearly states this at the start.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Hardi Wijaya

This is cheating YT... BUT it still does not justify to thrash the value of buying vews. AND it is also not justify to say that Fiverr is useless and we should stay away from it.

The purpoe of buyin views is to get higher rank in YT search list. It is for SEO purpose so as to get more views *virally* without paying for it.

Yeah, anyhow, says the guy selling fake traffic to YouTube in his Fiverr gig. :rolleyes:

Didn't YouTube stop ranking videos based on traffic back in 2008 or so? :rolleyes:

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Yeah, anyhow, says the guy selling fake traffic to YouTube in his Fiverr gig. :rolleyes:

Didn't YouTube stop ranking videos based on traffic back in 2008 or so? :rolleyes:

I've seen a video from Google/Youtube a couple years ago that said they sample something like the first 200 views to verify unique traffic. I know the sample of traffic was small.

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Hardi Wijaya

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Yeah, anyhow, says the guy selling fake traffic to YouTube in his Fiverr gig. :rolleyes:

Didn't YouTube stop ranking videos based on traffic back in 2008 or so? :rolleyes:

Dude, there are massive videos boosted by fake views on YT. before 2008. And YT still doesn't deleted these because the ad feature isn't turn on.

Ranking the video isn't based on traffic now. What're trying to say?:confused:

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mrswagset

11 years ago

Yeah Youtube is becoming a little more strict. Since the 19th they've start deleting videos with fake views. But hey atleast you now know how to crap on the competition >

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

All I want to know is, did she have that hair cut/color when she had money?

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bamstk090

11 years ago

not a fair tactics,,
don't use such as that method

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paulgl

11 years ago

This happens, time and time again, because people do not read the rules.
They refuse. Or, they don't listen when people actually read them for them.

The most ignored TOS is that you cannot violate any terms of any
google product.

Now, how many google products are out there? If you choose to use
any google product, and you violate the terms of that google product,
and they catch you, you are history.

I have no love for any jackass that uses fiverr for anything adsense
related. You are a fool.

I have said many times, stay away from fiverr.

Unfortunately, the old man in the cave keeps winning. So, keep
dealing with the knuckleheads on fiverr. The lot of you get what
you deserve. Keep following the old man in the cave.

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11 years ago

That sucks.

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11 years ago

Redheads!
Why the hell she posted fiverr vids on her YT +Adsense account? ROFL!

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Why do so many young women talk in that annoying tone. Because she's so annoying, I don't give a damn.
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  Originally Posted by Carl Brown
  
  Why do so many young women talk in that annoying tone.
  
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Hardi Wijaya

11 years ago

First thing first, why the heck did she buy paid views for channel with YT partnership??

This is cheating YT... BUT it still does not justify to thrash the value of buying vews. AND it is also not justify to say that Fiverr is useless and we should stay away from it.

Crux is, this girl agreed to YT terms and conditions in the first place. She cheated. Case closed. No money. No game <period>

The purpoe of buyin views is to get higher rank in YT search list. It is for SEO purpose so as to get more views *virally* without paying for it.

P.S.

I discussed this with Paul Bars on FB. Most people just forget to turn off the ad before buying views. They unknowingly cheat YT.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Well, as effed as this sounds...But her videos suck. No substance, no personality, nothing special.

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