by Adie
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I am thankful that I left adsense last 2007 and focused on otheronline ventures... My friend who has been running a news website since 2008 (4 years already) got his account banned today. The account was associated with that new website. There are 7 people posting news articles on that site earning more than $3,000/month each since 2009. All of their accounts got banned simultaneously 4 hours ago. The reason according to Google was duplicate content. How come Google accused of duplicate content when all of these people are reporters and posts their own news?

This is the first time I knew mass banning of accounts associated with the same site....

I really feel sorry for them... They are helpless and don't know what to do.... Adsense is not a good option is you wish to make money online in the long-run.... So unpredictable....
#adsense #scary
  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    That's too bad that your friends accounts were banned but I have to say, 99.9% of the news sites I see on Google News are fake news sites spamming the he$$ out of Adsense. I'm surprised most of those fake news sites still exist.

    Google News (IMO) is the worst possible way to make recurring income, especially with Adsense. You have to keep feeding Google News with new pages non-stop to get traffic, they might as well get an offline job that works them 365 days a year.

    Adsense is better suited for evergreen niches/traffic.

    If the site in question is still hooked up to Google News & they really enjoy working 365 days a year they could use the news site to build targeted email list based on the news category, then monetize the email list on the back end out of Googles view.

    BTW, there's still a boat load of money in Adsense, doesn't matter to the rest of the business world If someone else gets banned. I'm not trying to sound harsh, just stating a fact that some guy/s that get banned has nothing to do with any other persons Adsense earnings.

    Adsense, 6 years & still going, it isn't complicated to keep an account in good standing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    The site was removed from Google news 2 years ago. These people knows exactly what they are doing and that news site reports only local news so all of them are original. Anuyway, I don't know if they can recover their accounts but it seems impossible based on my own understanding....
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      The site was removed from Google news 2 years ago. These people knows exactly what they are doing and that news site reports only local news so all of them are original. Anuyway, I don't know if they can recover their accounts but it seems impossible based on my own understanding....

      Ok, so technically it wasn't a Google News site, it was a regular site simply reporting news, not a Google approved news site.

      It's hard to say where they went wrong without seeing the site, maybe the multiple Adsense pub-IDs on a single domain triggered the ban (IDK)?
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    So this was some type of ad sharing setup. Everybody with their accounts ? If so, the ban shouldn't come as much of a surprise.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by retsek View Post

      So this was some type of ad sharing setup. Everybody with their accounts ? If so, the ban shouldn't come as much of a surprise.
      This is an ad sharing site but there are only 7 members and all of them are veteran Imers who knows exactly what they are doing. The content they are posting everyday are all TOS compliant and they were very careful....
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Ok, so technically it wasn't a Google News site, it was a regular site simply reporting news, not a Google approved news site.

      It's hard to say where they went wrong without seeing the site, maybe the multiple Adsense pub-IDs on a single domain triggered the ban (IDK)?
      It's not a complete news site. The site contains blogs and news and all content are original and updated daily.... The site has been running for almost 4 years...
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Adie View Post

        It's not a complete news site. The site contains blogs and news and all content are original and updated daily.... The site has been running for almost 4 years...

        If they still have traffic, they can still monetize the site. The Adsense ban is only a temporary set back. Adsense isn't the reason they made any money with the site, the reason they made money was they had traffic.

        It's not a total loss as long as targeted traffic exist.
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        • Profile picture of the author Adie
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          If they still have traffic, they can still monetize the site. The Adsense ban is only a temporary set back. Adsense isn't the reason they made any money with the site, the reason they made money was they had traffic.

          It's not a total loss as long as targeted traffic exist.
          It's been 2 days that the site is running chitika and the result has been good so far. he told me earlier today that the revenue for 2 days is around 60 to 70% of what they were earning with adsense so they think they only lost around 25%, which is good...
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by Adie View Post

            It's been 2 days that the site is running chitika and the result has been good so far. he told me earlier today that the revenue for 2 days is around 60 to 70% of what they were earning with adsense so they think they only lost around 25%, which is good...

            I've tested chitika a few years ago on my Adsense sites, wasn't even worth the time to copy/paste the chitika affiliate code. I also kept getting virus alerts with my PC antivirus while viewing my own pages displaying chitika Ads. Needless to say, I removed chitika & returned to Adsense, earnings with Adsense picked right back up within a few days.

            Might be a good idea to build an email list & test that for monetizing, or sell links/traffic directly to niche sites. If they have traffic they have plenty of options for earning money, targeted traffic equals money.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    My friend got the same notice on one of his sites (a forum). The problem was that it was really hard to tell why Google didn't like the page they showed as an example of the violation.

    This probably comes down to Google's idea of duplicate content being totally flawed. I know they're penalising my own sites for this, when in reality I've syndicated my stuff all over the place (not to mention people stealing/reposting my content).

    Anyway, screw them because at the end of the day there are plenty of other ways of monetising a site. For a news site I'd just stick some wide appeal CPA offers up there - free iPhones/e-cigarette/biz opps offers of the type you see on Peerfly all the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author jipolis7
    I am not sure why are you telling so and why are you thinking so? Why are you giving the example of some bad examples. I am using adsense for the last 3 years and fully satisfied with it. I have a strong team of 9 members who all are doing so. 2 of them got banned before, but should we make them as a example of giving up the adsense program. So, don't think like this please.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by jipolis7 View Post

      I am not sure why are you telling so and why are you thinking so? Why are you giving the example of some bad examples. I am using adsense for the last 3 years and fully satisfied with it. I have a strong team of 9 members who all are doing so. 2 of them got banned before, but should we make them as a example of giving up the adsense program. So, don't think like this please.
      What bad example are you talking about? Should I cover-up adsense after my friend got banned for some weird reasons? 3 years? I've been with adsense since after 2 months adsense was created and I think that was 2003, but gave-up after 7 years because I found out that they can really screw you in no time...

      This post has nothing to do with you. If you are doing good then congratulations. If you want to put all of your eggs in one basket then go ahead.
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      • Profile picture of the author TrafficBossBiz
        The adsense rules and especially the communication with google is very intransparent.

        maybe you take a look on this alternatives:

        7search
        affinity.com
        trafficboss.biz
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by TrafficBossBiz View Post

          The adsense rules and especially the communication with google is very intransparent.
          It's actually quite the opposite. They have a blog and publish everything.

          BUT....they can't force people to read them.

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          • Profile picture of the author Adie
            Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

            It's actually quite the opposite. They have a blog and publish everything.

            BUT....they can't force people to read them.

            Paul
            My own account was banned several years ago while using it in an almost non-existing site... No specific reason.. They just tell people that you violated the rules and put advertisers into risk.. Yes, that's what Adsense has been doing for so long now... As I said, I'm thankful that I stopped doing Adsense several years ago even though my business account is still active...
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyLaws
    Maybe the articles that your friend where writing where ghost wring and all of the articles where simply rewritten? As I know google and recognize this type of sites these days.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by AndyLaws View Post

      Maybe the articles that your friend where writing where ghost wring and all of the articles where simply rewritten? As I know google and recognize this type of sites these days.
      Please read again my posts above...
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  • Profile picture of the author Demetrius
    I can just imagine how sad your friends are now. All their hard works were in vain within a span of 4 hour. I have heard this kind of story before a lot of times. Adsense can be a partial money making source but do not take as a main source. You can be hurt anytime.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anton543
    How much was the site doing if there were 7 people all making $3000 a month each?

    The site must be really popular.

    Chitika is a pretty good alternative.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adie
      Originally Posted by Anton543 View Post

      How much was the site doing if there were 7 people all making $3000 a month each?

      The site must be really popular.

      Chitika is a pretty good alternative.
      Their expected November revenue were:

      Person1 (my friend): around $3,500
      Person 2 (site owner): around $6,800
      Person 3 (another friend): around $10,000

      These 3 are the highest earners.. the other 4 had around $1500 combined..

      Actually, they invited me to join the site 4 years ago but I declined because I was busy with my own CPA activities before and that was also the time I left Adsense....
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  • Profile picture of the author jking1
    IMO, They must have to inform before adding contents from multiple reporters/users in a single site. They are sharing revenues without informing google, may be thats the fault. They have revenue sharing system so they must have to get permission from Google first.
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