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11 years ago

Its most likely the google dance to be honest, although given all the recent google updates, id stay well away from spinning articles and mass submitting them till you have better data.

Originally Posted by Danijelb

Hi guys,

I started an Amazon review site maybe a 2 months ago, I have about 20 reviews so far which made me about $400 in December. I was really excited about my success. For one popular product I decided to build some web 2.0 links to try to get it in top 3 positions. What I did is posted a spun article (more than 90% uniqueness in TBS) with the same title as my post/review that I linked to, to about 25 web 2.0 sites. Today when I woke up I noticed that most of these pages with backlinks got indexed and like 4 of them are on first page of Google. But now all of my reviews dropped to a 10+ page (they were on pages 1-3 before this).

Do you think this could be the usual Google dance after building backlinks, or maybe it's a some sort of penalty?

I mean if it is penalty that would make no sense to me because that way competitors can ruin your rankings in a few hours ? What should I do if it is a penalty? Try to remove these web 2.0 blogs or maybe request Google to remove my URL's and post them on a new site with a different domain? Reviews are unique and 400-500 words long.

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brettb

11 years ago

Maybe a competitor has built a better site than yours?

Also Amazon sites will get duplicate content penalities if you're just reusing the photos everyone else does.

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GGpaul 11 years ago

Originally Posted by brettb

Also Amazon sites will get duplicate content penalities if you're just reusing the photos everyone else does.

Oooooo that just got me thinking
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Sillysoft 11 years ago

Originally Posted by brettb

Also Amazon sites will get duplicate content penalities if you're just reusing the photos everyone else does.

How so? The name of the image file?
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- GGpaul 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Sillysoft
  
  How so? The name of the image file?
  
  I would think so. If everyone's alt = "xxxxxx review"
  
  And it's the same image that Amazon provides.
  
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kaytav

11 years ago

I would say it's a Google dance. There is no update from Google as of today. It is advised to submit a spinned article to 3-4 sites only. If you are going for 10-15 sites with 1 article, you can get penalized, even if you use spinnable content.

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Danijelb

11 years ago

Is it possible to come back, should I remove all the links?

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T-shirtman

11 years ago

This has just happened to me building 1 review per day and am going to start doing 2 per day but just had a look at my states and no traffic so I had a look at a couple of the reviews that was ranking top10 naturally I was up to 30 reviews and all 30 was in the top10 and they have all gone out of the serps.

I am following Wolfmmiii strategy and it’s been working with just them 30 reviews I have been making sales so I am super motivated at the moment but when I see all my ranking gone it feels like a right kick in the gut I know GGpaul has had a lot of success with this strategy if you read this I wonder if you experienced the same thing?

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Danijelb

11 years ago

Yes exactly, I was making sales also and doing reviews myself, and now everything is gone, not a nice feeling..

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T-shirtman 11 years ago

Not nice at all. All my reviews are done by me and I feel are really good content as I really like the field I am writing about.

Just went over one off GGpaul's old post and he experienced a similar thing but only on a couple of his reviews (it's all my reviews) but he doesn't say if they come back or not I will keep you posted I am going to just keep posting new reviews
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linkbuildr

11 years ago

did you actually review the product physically or have you never actually touched it? Build links yourself? If you've never seen the product and faked your rankings I wouldn't want your site in the top 10 that's for sure.

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Danijelb

11 years ago

Originally Posted by linkbuildr

did you actually review the product physically or have you never actually touched it? Build links yourself? If you've never seen the product and faked your rankings I wouldn't want your site in the top 10 that's for sure.

Reviewing the product doesn't actually require you to own it, if you talk about main/side features of the product and what benefits they can have to the costumer, and researching a bit about what users that own the product reported, what is wrong there? You still wrote something that is helpful to the potential buyer.

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T-shirtman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijelb

Reviewing the product doesn't actually require you to own it, if you talk about main/side features of the product and what benefits they can have to the costumer, and researching a bit about what users that own the product reported, what is wrong there? You still wrote something that is helpful to the potential buyer.

That's how I feel also but some of the things I have given a review I do own

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Danijelb

11 years ago

Let's just hope it is some kind of Google dance, it would be too funny that they penalized sites with unique content rather then spammy ones :/

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Are you guys all in the electronic niche? I'm assuming you are. A lot of us are in it. Probably targeting the same product, with $100 or more.

My electronic niche fell off the planet, and now it's making a come back.

My other niche sites which I won't talk about

have ranked 1-3 easily and have made sales.

My suggestion, find different niches. Stop going for the ones that everyone will want to go for. If so, then I recommend you building backlinks/owning a private blog network with HIGH PR's because they're not going to be low competition products any more.

Keep in mind, I believe with 2013, a lot of these people got these "electronic" gadgets for Christmas and have made reviews and what not. You may never know. And so Google is placing all these new content all over the place. And the fact that your pages have a PR N/A could be a possibility.

Something I learned is to not copy the exact thing as what the teacher has taught you. Mix it up, and always try to do better.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Also, I haven't seen wolfmmiii in a long time. He must be busy with family, vacation and what not.

If you guys need help or whatever you can message me. I'm not asking for a price IDGAF. I just want to help. That's my goal for 2013

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But seriously, try to do more than what the teacher has taught you

. You're a business owner not a follower!

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijelb

Hi guys,

I started an Amazon review site maybe a 2 months ago, I have about 20 reviews so far which made me about $400 in December. I was really excited about my success. For one popular product I decided to build some web 2.0 links to try to get it in top 3 positions. What I did is posted a spun article (more than 90% uniqueness in TBS) with the same title as my post/review that I linked to, to about 25 web 2.0 sites. Today when I woke up I noticed that most of these pages with backlinks got indexed and like 4 of them are on first page of Google. But now all of my reviews dropped to a 10+ page (they were on pages 1-3 before this).

Do you think this could be the usual Google dance after building backlinks, or maybe it's a some sort of penalty?

I mean if it is penalty that would make no sense to me because that way competitors can do the same thing to ruin your rankings in a few hours ? What should I do if it is a penalty? Try to remove these web 2.0 blogs or maybe request Google to remove my URL's and post them on a new site with a different domain? Reviews are unique and 400-500 words long.

How's your anchor text? What I like to do is have a strong LSI.

Example : {Samsung 20348x Review| 20348x Review|20348|Top Tvs|Best TVs of 2011|1080p cheap|Cheap Samsung|Samsung high definition|Click here|Learn more|Find out more|Click here to continue|}

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T-shirtman

11 years ago

Thanks for the reply Paul

I totally get what you saying in don’t just follow what others are doing.

I would say you are 100% spot on with all the new reviews but the Top10 has not changed apart from my site is not there Amazon top3/4 then unrelated down to 10.

I haven’t been link building but I will be doing the anchor text also I may set up a web 2.0 network today what link building are you doing now?

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Originally Posted by T-shirtman

Thanks for the reply Paul

I totally get what you saying in don't just follow what others are doing.

I would say you are 100% spot on with all the new reviews but the Top10 has not changed apart from my site is not there Amazon top3/4 then unrelated down to 10.

I haven't been link building but I will be doing the anchor text also I may set up a web 2.0 network today what link building are you doing now?

I'm planning to build a private network and I'm learning from Mike Anthony. The problem is that it's going to cost A (*@# ton of money if I want to target PR 5 + domains.

For now, I'm just doing basic stuff. Hubpages, squidoo lens, article directories.

But I must agree with the person above about having the actual product. I really think doing a full on video with the product (none of that display image copy paste crap), and you doing a fun review, added onto your content will do its justice!

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luvhammers

11 years ago

I lost my main 250 post site on December 17th. Doing same thing as you guys, yet they chose to de-index me.

How can you diversify if google don't give you time to succeed in one thing first?

Anyway keep plugging away guys.

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Danijelb

11 years ago

I am not in the electronics niche, most of my reviews were on first page....I removed these links from 2.0 blogs, so now all I will do is wait and see if they come back.

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affilorama-portal

11 years ago

Perhaps just Google dance. I suggest you just continue building links. Try to vary your links too and the sites you build backlinks from.

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Happyeagle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijelb

Hi guys,

I started an Amazon review site maybe a 2 months ago, I have about 20 reviews so far which made me about $400 in December. I was really excited about my success. For one popular product I decided to build some web 2.0 links to try to get it in top 3 positions. What I did is posted a spun article (more than 90% uniqueness in TBS) with the same title as my post/review that I linked to, to about 25 web 2.0 sites. Today when I woke up I noticed that most of these pages with backlinks got indexed and like 4 of them are on first page of Google. But now all of my reviews dropped to a 10+ page (they were on pages 1-3 before this).

Do you think this could be the usual Google dance after building backlinks, or maybe it's a some sort of penalty?

I mean if it is penalty that would make no sense to me because that way competitors can do the same thing to ruin your rankings in a few hours ? What should I do if it is a penalty? Try to remove these web 2.0 blogs or maybe request Google to remove my URL's and post them on a new site with a different domain? Reviews are unique and 400-500 words long.

Originally Posted by GGpaul

How's your anchor text? What I like to do is have a strong LSI.

Example : {Samsung 20348x Review| 20348x Review|20348|Top Tvs|Best TVs of 2011|1080p cheap|Cheap Samsung|Samsung high definition|Click here|Learn more|Find out more|Click here to continue|}

what's your anchor text like? Did you use the same anchor text for all 25 web 2.0 websites? anchor text is key!

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Danijelb

11 years ago

I used two different anchor texts, didn't think that I need bigger variety for only 25 links, but it might be it...

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GGpaul 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijelb

I used two different anchor texts, didn't think that I need bigger variety for only 25 links, but it might be it...

definitely use more than two. I build 25 different anchor text. Cool thing is that I'm ranking in multiple keywords. So you're killing like 10 birds in one stone. I'll message you in a bit
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- T-shirtman 11 years ago
  
  I hope it's my site just going on a major dance no Backlinks have been made for the site. I will keep at building the reviews see if they come back over the next couple of days if they don't I will start to Backlinks them.
  
  This was just a test site see if it's worth doing then scale up the first 30 days was promising I hope the site hasn't hit the buffers already
  
  I would love my own private network mate but it's just to much ££££'s for me but I am going to be trying set a big network of free web 2.00 see how I get on
  
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elperuanito

11 years ago

Yeah, wolfmmii seems to be MIA. Ah well, just going to keep building myself and see what happens!

GGpaul - just another massive help for giving free info and replying to my questions via pm. So a huge thanks for that, I sometimes love this community!

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cooler1

11 years ago

That's what is frustrating about self hosted sites, they have less stability in the SERPs than other platforms. You can be ranking on page 1 one day then the next day your on page 4 or worse.

It's a shame that Blogger is unusable and Squidoo is annoying with making lens become un-featured. With Amazon/SEO, it's seems self-hosting is the only viable way.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

I'm thinking about making a daily blog with video about this. I wonder if anyone would be interested??

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T-shirtman 11 years ago

Yes mate that sound good. Have you ever never built links to a site and it be hit like my site but it come back?
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- d0r1n 11 years ago
  
  Based on one of my hobbies (I guess I'm lucky that I've discovered that I have many, LoL) 10 months ago (if I remember well) i built a really nice affiliate theme. Hired a web designer, 2 content writers + me, installed a wp plugin that helped me format the reviews a little and started producing content. I had around 30-40 products added to the site and after that I decided to build some links to it.
  
  Before I actually started to build links... I had around 10-15 visits per day. Man I was so impressed to see the types of long tail traffic I had. Believe me, most of the searches were 4-5 or even 6 words long, low bounce rate, good time on page and click through on my affiliate links.
  
  Sales started to appear. I was on fire
  
  2 months later I hired a SEO company to do some link building for me. Within 3 weeks I was ranking top 3 for most of the buyer traffic keywords I wanted plus many many others on top 10, first page.
  
  Traffic grew 5-6 times, and I was really happy with the sales.
  
  Sadly, the penguin squashed the website completely and I lost everything (except website layout, product review template and the experience )
  
  My advice: never outsource your link building, mostly when there's your passion involved. One quality link from a trusted publication or a friend is worth waaaaay more important than some shitty cheap links you'll get in a rush.
  
  Anyway.. so 4 months later I built another website on another niche (decided to test something else, higher ticket items).
  
  Now all my reviews are at least 1000 words long, there are 2 content writers (sometimes 3) working together to generate great content!
  
  0 backlinks built (except the 1-2 the domain already had when I bought it)
  
  Got myself a really nice exact match domain that has a really good CTR on the organic serps.
  
  Post on a regular basis (4-5 reviews per week).
  
  I'm using only 2 WP plugins now: WordPress SEO, and wp-amazon-plugin.com (but with some tweaks)
  
  Results?
  
  - traffic increased 15-20% each month (looks like January is a little slower than I expected, but I'm ok with that for the moment)
  - during the last 3 months the sales almost doubled each month
  - I even got some organic social love (few likes and shares, etc)
  - one out of 4-5 reviews I post is top 10 in Google within few days, but I also get traffic from other long tail queries for the other reviews that aren't ranked so high
  - I'm glad that only 50% of my organic traffic is from Google. Bing and Yahoo are also sending traffic
  
  Yes, some of my reviews do disappear sometimes from the serps (Google) but they come back usually in 4-5 days. I closely monitor them with Google Webmaster Tools. You should also try it.
  
  Recently I also verified my website with Bing Webmaster Tools as well and I'm loving the SEO tools and reports they provide. You should really take a look at both Google and Bing's webmaster tools. There are multiple advantages if you have the time to dig deeper.
  
  I'll see what happens in the future and I really hope you'll find my post useful.
  
  All the best!
  
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  Good post, but only good content - not good ranking. Trust of domain is key.
  
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  ochaim 11 years ago
  
  I built a site 2 months ago using wolfmiii's method. It wasn't working out so well for me since I realized I picked a bad niche for the method. In any case, 2 of the handful of reviews I did started getting traction and only got better rankings in the past 3-4 weeks. they are now in the first page, #4 and #9.
  
  Not a whole lot to judge from, but I haven't noticed any significant ranking changes for these, for what it's worth.
  
  Is a "google dance" possible after ranking on page 1 for as long your posts have?
  
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CatherineMay 11 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

I'm thinking about making a daily blog with video about this. I wonder if anyone would be interested??

I add my name to group of struggling marketers who would really appreciate a blog from you!
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GGpaul

11 years ago

I don't know if you guys noticed but if you used rank checker and you're looking to see the rankings for one of your posts, it labels it as the "main domain"? But when you type it in Google it's the actual page?

At the same time, when you type it in Google, you noticed that it doesn't give you the long domain name any more? Instead it gives you something like

Product name
Domain home page URL > Category

instead of the actual URL internal page? Maybe this is old news, but that's something I caught.

All in all, it still leads you to your actual page..

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T-shirtman

11 years ago

I will keep adding the reviews and see at the end of Jan where I stand then get backlinking if I am still not ranking. And I thought Google wanted new unique content :confused:

I had someone tweet one of my reviews over a million followers (they found my review I didn’t ask them to do a tweet) this was natural so I thought I was doing everything right naturally but Google says NO :rolleyes:

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T-shirtman

11 years ago

It looks like google have hit amazon sites to me this surly can't be a dance

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d0r1n

11 years ago

Originally Posted by T-shirtman

It looks like google have hit amazon sites to me this surly can't be a dance

I can see dozens of affiliate sites ranking for the keywords I'm closely monitoring. While some of them are thin affiliate sites some are really good looking with quality content.

How exactly you are formatting your posts? Probably you're doing something wrong..

Give us more details.

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T-shirtman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by d0r1n

I can see dozens of affiliate sites ranking for the keywords I'm closely monitoring. While some of them are thin affiliate sites some are really good looking with quality content.

How exactly you are formatting your posts? Probably you're doing something wrong..

Give us more details.

Review and just 1 link to Amazon

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elperuanito

11 years ago

I have almost 50 reviews with 15-20 ranking on page 1. Can't figure out the factors that make some rank and others not (no backlinks). I know a lot of it is "random" but there must be something I'm doing wrong with some of them. I've tried to work on them naturally rather than paying loads of attention to LSI or keyword density. Wondering if length or reviews, image title, number of images or keyword density has a massive effect on things.

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d0r1n

11 years ago

Originally Posted by elperuanito

I have almost 50 reviews with 15-20 ranking on page 1. Can't figure out the factors that make some rank and others not (no backlinks). I know a lot of it is "random" but there must be something I'm doing wrong with some of them.

The same thing here. Some of my reviews are on the first page ranking top 3 while others are on page 4-5-6-etc. The frustrating part is that most of the reviews that are above me are crap most of the times.

Originally Posted by elperuanito

I've tried to work on them naturally rather than paying loads of attention to LSI or keyword density. Wondering if length or reviews, image title, number of images or keyword density has a massive effect on things.

What LSI stands for? :rolleyes:

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dreamtoreality

11 years ago

Every time I check this forum I keep on seeing the same type of posts: "I was ranking highly and now I'm not." Despite what you may believe, Google isn't out to kill your site just because it's an affiliate site." I have reviews that contain 10 affiliate links in them yet I'm still on the first page.Why? It's because what worked before STILL WORKS AND WILL ALWAYS WORK - high quality backlinks.

Google sees quality sites linking to yours and they will rank you, no questions asked. It's as simple as that. I spent so long thinking that it was all these other minute factors, like word length, number of affiliate links, number of images, theme, KW density etc. Sure, they may play a role, but their role is nothing compared to what high quality links can do to your site. Your content can even be 10x better than others, but it doesn't matter when it comes to ranking.

Google can't read content. It can read backlinks.

If you haven't done so before then look up QDF. This is the reason why your sites initially rank well then seem to drop off the face of earth. Think of QDF like Google giving you an opportunity to gain traffic and thus backlinks. Once QDF has worn off and Google sees that no one has linked to your site, then why should they continue to rank you highly? It makes no sense for them to do so, as their algorithm is mainly focused on the quality of backlinks a site receives.

I've said it before but I'll say it again: Building a site with no backlinks (this includes low quality backlinks) is destined to fail.

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elperuanito

11 years ago

Well, I guess the 'no backlinks' Amazon theory is quite big due to wolfmmii saying you don't need them to rank on page 1 for low-competition. At the moment I have ranked 15-20 products on page 1 and some of them are 2 months old. Assuming the current sites on page 1 have few to no backlinks and the relevance is low then in theory it should work.

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dreamtoreality

11 years ago

Originally Posted by elperuanito

Well, I guess the 'no backlinks' Amazon theory is quite big due to wolfmmii saying you don't need them to rank on page 1 for low-competition. At the moment I have ranked 15-20 products on page 1 and some of them are 2 months old. Assuming the current sites on page 1 have few to no backlinks and the relevance is low then in theory it should work.

I for one am happy that the "no backlinks" Amazon theory is quite big. I hope more and more people start implementing that theory. But seriously, if there's no competition then you will rank just because Google has no choice but to show your content; therefore, you're right.

I prefer to go after products I know people are already buying and will continue to buy, though. I don't want to spend time writing reviews on the off chance that one of them will make it big. Time = Money.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Well that's the thing. As wolfmmiii emphasized on "LOW competition".

I'll be honest. And I think this is where I effed up but hey, I couldn't help it. I wanted to give back to the forum. Obviously I started a thread a while back which was closed for some reason. If I remembered clearly, it had over 15,000 views. Enough for A LOT of internet marketers to target this certain strategy to where THEY even implement their OWN strategy such as creating backlinks; something that wolfmmiii doesn't use. But now people are targeting low competition just by writing an easy 500 word page WITH backlinks. It's probably at a point now where it's getting saturated.

Sure 15,000 views isn't a lot. But things spread like fire. We may never know, what if that certain amount of people shared it to others and so forth etc. etc.

Just a theory though.

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dreamtoreality

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Well that's the thing. As wolfmmiii emphasized on "LOW competition".

But now people are targeting low competition just by writing an easy 500 word page WITH backlinks. It's probably at a point now where it's getting saturated.

Yeah, exactly. The problem with this low competition strategy is that when new products are released, yeah, there isn't much competition. A couple of weeks after the release date and things will look very different. Low competition ----> Low/Mid competition which requires backlinks to rank. There can't be too many products out there that are not only in demand but also have low competition.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Originally Posted by dreamtoreality

Yeah, exactly. The problem with this low competition strategy is that when new products are released, yeah, there isn't much competition. A couple of weeks after the release date and things will look very different. Low competition ----> Low/Mid competition which requires backlinks to rank. There can't be too many products out there that are not only in demand but also have low competition.

Yup. And so how about this. Take your business to the NEXT effing level folks

. How? Every week challenge yourself. Buy yourself a $20-$40 item. And yes, I know we have $20-$40 every week to spare at least with all the junk food and alcohol that we buy almost every day :p. And make a review where you do a video of you using the product, and have TONS of pictures taken by you. Not just pictures from Amazon.

You may say "Oh, well $20 that'll give me pennies worth commission." But hey, in this damn economy more people will buy products that are cheap. Altogether it adds up. Besides, you want your commission rate to go up since it resets every month.

That's another problem. A lot of us probably have the SAME theme with these low competition Amazon keywords, and probably have SIMILAR content even if we didn't duplicate it or "spun" it.

It's just....so basic. "Blah blah blah was released in blah blah blah. One of the main features, another feature, another feature. One thing I don't like. You should consider blah blah blah. " Nothing stands out from you and the other writer.

And when someone searches an "X" product, they're gonna see a lot of these sites that are pretty much all the same.

Just an advice.

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Melkur

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Well that's the thing. As wolfmmiii emphasized on "LOW competition".

I'll be honest. And I think this is where I effed up but hey, I couldn't help it. I wanted to give back to the forum. Obviously I started a thread a while back which was closed for some reason. If I remembered clearly, it had over 15,000 views. Enough for A LOT of internet marketers to target this certain strategy ...

Yep, I'm one of them

I'd been following the theory for a while, but hadn't actually taken any action - your thread, and the contributions to it from many others, where what kicked my ass into gear, and I'm grateful for that.

I'm not adding the recommended 2 reviews per day - more like one every day or two, as time allows - so it's hard to compare exactly with others, but traffic seems to be building again after a dead period leading up to New Year.

I've no idea if it will last, but while it does I'm making a little cash and planning to diversify into other niches and experiment with the method a little. I've done a (very) small amount of affiliate marketing before, with very limited success, but my previous efforts with Amazon have be more or less total failures. I'm now convinced that it can work, and I'm enthusiastic to try to MAKE it work, one way or another!

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11 years ago

20 articles site?

This is what you're up against:

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And many more.

Build and don't give in.

But give value, give more than reviews.

Build something great.

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elperuanito

11 years ago

I agree with you to some degree. Ultimately it's all about backlinks. However I thought that I would have more success with a small trickle of income - so far I've failed. In the long term I am planning on building a private network (in process now for my adsense sites that are earning) but until then I thought the wolfmmii method might be a good kickstart. Not so thus far. However considering others in this thread are having success with it I'll keep going.

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spa3212

11 years ago

I think if you are using spun text articles and just want to get traffic instead of backlink then what about the idea of using some redirect services like goo.gl or bitly etc..what do you thing google will penalize you for this too. because you are not pointing directly to your site..

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Originally Posted by spa3212

I think if you are using spun text articles and just want to get traffic instead of backlink then what about the idea of using some redirect services like goo.gl or bitly etc..what do you thing google will penalize you for this too. because you are not pointing directly to your site..

Where did this come from? This topic came out of no where?

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Danijelb

11 years ago

I will start another site and use a bit different strategy, I am going to make one review per day, but after posting that one review I will build some backlinks to it and see how that will go.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijelb

I will start another site and use a bit different strategy, I am going to make one review per day, but after posting that one review I will build some backlinks to it and see how that will go.

Don't build backlinks RIGHT away. Wait a couple days and see where it's placed.

I have a site that I absolutely do NOT touch and it's ranked 1-3 with a lot of posts easily. And I don't want to risk it with backlinking (why fix it when it's not broken).

And then there's another site where it fell beyond the Earths surface. THAT, I'm now using backlinks

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elperuanito

11 years ago

I've started a new site now and going to do 3-4 reviews daily. Time to crank it up a notch!

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Danijelb

11 years ago

Update

Started new site (medium competition), added 3 reviews, starting positions vary from 14 - 23 place. I think not bad for a site that just got indexed. I will wait few more days and see where they end up, and then build some backlinks to each review.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Danijelb

Update

Started new site (medium competition), added 3 reviews, starting positions vary from 14 - 23 place. I think not bad for a site that just got indexed. I will wait few more days and see where they end up, and then build some backlinks to each review.

Good!

Question to you folks, especially for those that lost their rankings. When you look at the keyword(s) that lose the rankings do you check your competition?
See to if it maybe the keyword got competitive. Look on the first page and see if all the PR's on the first page are still PR 0. Perhaps a bunch of sites came in with higher PR, knowing the fact that the product got popular.

Like I said, in the electronic niche it's like the items don't stay there very long because obviously cnet, tigersdirect and other credible sites come in and destroy us

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Danijelb

11 years ago

I am sure I somehow got hit by Google, since ALL of my reviews disappeared during the night, and now my best position for the site that got hit is about 90th place. If it was some kind of dance I would be back by now.

But it is not so bad, since it was a new experience for me, and I will test several different strategies to test our lovely search engine and come up with what works the best.

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davidtye

11 years ago

Sounds like a Google penalty to me, it wont make any difference trying to remove the Web 2 blogs.

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