Just hit page 1 for a keyword with 368,000 exact match searches, . . .

by tsx
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...then lost it, .... now back up again! ??? :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

It has been a tremendous Google dance with the website bouncing widely between 4th spot and 104th spot. The website is TSX-Today.com.
Our primary keywords are "tsx today" and "tsx".
I talked about our success with "tsx today" here: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...n-pr5-6-a.html

However we are suffering from the Google dance a lot more with the keyword "tsx". Any ideas for stabilizing the rankings? Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Punit12
    Originally Posted by tsx View Post

    :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

    It has been a tremendous Google dance with the website bouncing widely between 4th spot and 104th spot. The website is TSX-Today.com.
    Our primary keywords are "tsx today" and "tsx".
    I talked about our success with "tsx today" here: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...n-pr5-6-a.html

    However we are suffering from the Google dance a lot more with the keyword "tsx". Any ideas for stabilizing the rankings? Thanks.
    Dear tsx,

    We too are experiencing keyword fluctuations & its stabilization may take some time (Algo update).

    Keep focusing on web 2.0 which will help you in stabilizing your keywords.

    Thanks.
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    Punit Kansara
    Seo Strategist

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  • Profile picture of the author venkateshk
    The famous google dance..I have not come across anything by which you can stop the dance and make the position of your rankings stable and I believe it is to do with the competition and demand. So, patience is virtue here.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Just a heads up, I'd be cautious about posting your keywords and domain here. You may be opening yourself up to a lot of unwanted competition.
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    • Profile picture of the author tsx
      Thanks for the heads up. The field is so competitive though that I wish I had entered a different one.

      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

      Just a heads up, I'd be cautious about posting your keywords and domain here. You may be opening yourself up to a lot of unwanted competition.
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    • Profile picture of the author avanahall
      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

      Just a heads up, I'd be cautious about posting your keywords and domain here. You may be opening yourself up to a lot of unwanted competition.
      JS - what do you mean by this?
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      • Profile picture of the author evilsaigon
        Originally Posted by avanahall View Post

        JS - what do you mean by this?
        I believe what js is saying is that when you reveal your keywords and domains here, showing that they are profitable, there will b competitors jumping onto the bandwagon to outbeat you directly because they know this is profitable and has been done.

        You are practically helping them to save their research efforts, and they can even look at your site to emulate a live model. You are just opening youself up to unnecessary competition.
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        • Profile picture of the author avanahall
          Originally Posted by evilsaigon View Post

          I believe what js is saying is that when you reveal your keywords and domains here, showing that they are profitable, there will b competitors jumping onto the bandwagon to outbeat you directly because they know this is profitable and has been done.

          You are practically helping them to save their research efforts, and they can even look at your site to emulate a live model. You are just opening youself up to unnecessary competition.
          Ah .. thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author kaytav
    That isn't Google dance. That is Panda 24. Google's First Panda Refresh Of 2013: Panda #24
    Panda must have hit your sites...for sure
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    I would keep slowly building links to your site man. Like most people said seems like a part of the new panda update.

    But the answer is always the same, build links, and wait. Not really any other option, as far as SEO goes.
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    • Profile picture of the author tsx
      Originally Posted by Slin View Post

      I would keep slowly building links to your site man. Like most people said seems like a part of the new panda update.

      But the answer is always the same, build links, and wait. Not really any other option, as far as SEO goes.
      You might have a point about the update. How would one spot rank changes related to this update? Has anyone experienced this yet?
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  • Profile picture of the author G0nzalez
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    That may be because of the recent update, and i think there is one in progress today, january 25th.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    368,000 exact searches!!!!!

    Geeze. I'm having a hard enough time ranking for a 2,100 exact searches a month keyword. TBPO, I wish I knew why you guys target keywords that competitive.

    If you have the ability to rank for keywords that competitive, you can make a ton of money targeting local home improvement type keywords, that have far less searches.

    I don't sell leads per lead. Every 100 clicks usually converts to 4-5 calls which converts to at least 1 sold job which converts to $1,000-$2,000 commission on that job.

    Could you imagine what you could accomplish targeting smaller niches? It makes me sick to my stomach just to think about. I think the real issue is connections. A lot of guys on here don't have the connections to monetize local niches the right way. But if you ever get bored, and want to rank a site in my state, I could make you a lot of money man.

    I suck at SEO, but I'm a champ at monetization/sales.

    -Red
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    • Profile picture of the author tsx
      We should work together. I will send you a pm.

      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      368,000 exact searches!!!!!

      Geeze. I'm having a hard enough time ranking for a 2,100 exact searches a month keyword. TBPO, I wish I knew why you guys target keywords that competitive.

      If you have the ability to rank for keywords that competitive, you can make a ton of money targeting local home improvement type keywords, that have far less searches.

      I don't sell leads per lead. Every 100 clicks usually converts to 4-5 calls which converts to at least 1 sold job which converts to $1,000-$2,000 commission on that job.

      Could you imagine what you could accomplish targeting smaller niches? It makes me sick to my stomach just to think about. I think the real issue is connections. A lot of guys on here don't have the connections to monetize local niches the right way. But if you ever get bored, and want to rank a site in my state, I could make you a lot of money man.

      I suck at SEO, but I'm a champ at monetization/sales.

      -Red
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    /\ Lol. I always here that on this forum but I think its mostly unjustified. The OP admitted in his post that he picked an overly saturated niche. And any marketer with common sense will stay away from those types of niches.

    Even if he did post the domain, what exactly does that open him up to?

    Like competitors can't find the domain on their own if they're in the same niche already? And if they're not in the same niche, what are they going to do? Copy his backlinking strategy? Start a new site in his niche to compete against him? Go through all that work for what? To find out they picked a terrible niche? Or maybe they're going to waste the right amount of time researching the niche to make sure the OP knows what he's doing?

    Are people really that quick to copy others?

    It doesn't make sense because the reality is, nothing online is a secret. The only time you should hide info is when you say something like:

    "I discovered an unsaturated, highly profitable niche, with no competition".

    But those situations are rare. Even if the niche was unsaturated, and highly profitable, and he posted the domain, all he has to do is not mention that fact. Anyone who hasn't done the research in that niche, won't have any clue that its profitable. I realize that people can steal and compete, but why do it based on what someone says here? If people posted their sites on here, the most I'd do is analyze their backlinking strategy to use in my own niche. But as far as stealing their niche... no way. Chances are I don't know a thing about it, and don't really care. Or maybe I'm just too lax in my approach, idrk.
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  • Profile picture of the author JensonChong
    You have to provide fresh content regularly and you have to build trust links, these two things would help come out from Google dance!
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  • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
    Can you please pm me with your link building strategy, i see you really tried ranking that site and its amazing...
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  • Profile picture of the author tsx
    SEO is getting very strange. Yesterday we were in the spots 6 or 7 most of the day and we got up to #2.
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