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Post Penguin ( 8 months and site still nowhere), copy old site to new?

by hamburglar
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I have a site that I dedicated a lot of energy to. However, I got all my traffic through organic SERP. It still ranks well in yahoo and bing but I have lost 3k - 5k visitors due to Google updates.

I have 80 post plus 10 youtube videos and other downloads.

Should I start a new website while moving the content over and linkbuild to that? Start fresh?

I was making $10 - $20/day with adsense but now its $1. I have lost my motivation since it got dumped but I still get people signing up to my newsletter.

Would I get hit with duplicate content penalty?
#copy #months #penguin #post #site
  • Profile picture of the author Punit12
    Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

    I have a site that I dedicated a lot of energy to. However, I got all my traffic through organic SERP. It still ranks well in yahoo and bing but I have lost 3k - 5k visitors due to Google updates.

    I have 80 post plus 10 youtube videos and other downloads.

    Should I start a new website while moving the content over and linkbuild to that? Start fresh?

    I was making $10 - $20/day with adsense but now its $1. I have lost my motivation since it got dumped but I still get people signing up to my newsletter.

    Would I get hit with duplicate content penalty?
    Dear hamburglar,

    Since your old pages are live, its not an wise idea to move your old content to the new site.

    Even if you declare canonical to all your new pages, then too who can guarantee it will rank good & wont be penalized.

    Best thing we can do at this moment is focusing more on web 2.0 sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOtraveler
    Completely agree.
    And if Google doesn't like your website, maybe you should do an audit and change something before making copies, because to me it looks that google is likely to drop your website again if the reason stays.

    What is more, to avoid duplicate content penalties you need your website to be removed from index completely before creating a new one with the same content. It takes time. But still it is not completely safe. The best advice is to start a brand new site and consider previous mistakes.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      After checking you sig links... perhaps motivation is not the only factor.

      One sig link is not coded right.

      One sig link has a:
      A Database Error Occurred
      Unable to connect to your database server using the provided settings.

      The other one is some sorry blog last updated in July 2011, with
      "Over the past year I have been using Ezinearticles.com to drive traffic and backlinks to my website. In order to drive traffic to my website I have to create quality articles that grab attention."

      Now maybe you will edit those sig links or something, but man, you need to seriously
      start some learning.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author LloydMS
        If a site has been penalized and you're not seeing any improvements, I'd trash the site and start over using your existing content as the foundation. I think starting fresh is a lot easier than trying to recover.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bambu
    I would recommend taking down the website. Then wait for google to deindex each of the pages. Then buy another domain, preferably aged with a strong natural backlink profile or new if you have the cash. Then rebuild the site.

    The penguin penalty is difficult to recover from. You would be better off starting over and employing really conservative SEO practices.

    Good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author connorbringas
      Not sure what website you're talking about, but one of them has pure content on it-website tips. People need more imagery to convert, not everyone enjoys reading boring text.
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  • Profile picture of the author hadtic
    Start buy checking your site for Panda Penalties then Penguin penalties. For Panda here is just some of the things to check, Font size, readability, site load time, content freshness, keyword stuffing, use of H1, H2 etc, then go and check your links and diversity of the link type and start building the type of links required. Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author octavyo
    Originally Posted by hamburglar View Post

    I have a site that I dedicated a lot of energy to. However, I got all my traffic through organic SERP. It still ranks well in yahoo and bing but I have lost 3k - 5k visitors due to Google updates.

    I have 80 post plus 10 youtube videos and other downloads.

    Should I start a new website while moving the content over and linkbuild to that? Start fresh?

    I was making $10 - $20/day with adsense but now its $1. I have lost my motivation since it got dumped but I still get people signing up to my newsletter.

    Would I get hit with duplicate content penalty?

    Moving the site to a new domain is definitely something you should avoid !

    There are many factors which may affected your site. It could be either on-page optimization, off-page optimization or both of them.

    If you can provide the website url i`ll be happy to take a better look and provide you some advices at no cost.

    Just sent me a Pm if you don`t want to reveal the url on the thread.

    My guess is that your site is affected by Panda/Penguin. Anyways depending on how and what affected you you have high chances to regain your rankings
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  • Profile picture of the author GyuMan82
    If it has been 8 months just trash the domain and transfer the content to another domain.

    Don't throw good money and time on a project that may never recover.

    I think there was a poll somewhere that showed something like 90%+ of webmasters hit by Penguin did not recover.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    I had some content that I thought was pretty decent, well-researched etc (as much as a professional linguist can judge such things). But I have tried moving domains twice now, once redirecting all the links canonically, once just letting the old site get deindexed and letting Google treat the new site as a new site. Both times the site has got penalised - either there is some other "spam" flag getting tripped, or Google has a cache of the old content and continues to associate it with the old site which it didn't like. Or a 1001 other theories - whatever, it's worth a try, but at the same time don't be disappointed if it doesn't work out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    You need stronger links. One strong related link is worth a million wikis and social bookmarks
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    Start over by using the existing content as a foundation. Make the new site better. I did this with one site that plummeted after Penguin. I had 500 posts, but only 50 or so generated real money. I rewrote the money-making posts, updated them, made them even better on a new site. It didn't take long and now the new site is earning over $100 a day plus attracting 20 subscribers a day.
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