Everyone is a PRO SEO

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Now a days everyone is a SEO Expert..

1 month = Link Builder
2 month = Sr.Link Builder
3 month = Jr.SEO
6 Month SEO Expert

Then SEO Specialist.. They don't even know the "S" of SEO.. but they know how to spam.

Hence they are so-called SEO Expert's

I don't want to hit anyone personally but this is the real bitter truth!
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  • Profile picture of the author narongtham
    So this is SEO = Spam Experience Option ?
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    12 months... KING OF THE INTERNET
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  • Profile picture of the author jxam69
    You're all wrong!

    You can only be an SEO expert if you have made at least 293 posts on Warrior thanking people for their bad advice
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael_Le
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      Originally Posted by jxam69 View Post

      You're all wrong!

      You can only be an SEO expert if you have made at least 293 posts on Warrior thanking people for their bad advice
      thing is, most so called seo experts on here haven't a clue about REAL seo. Most don't even know what breadcrumbs are and how important it is to setting up an internally linked juice flowing site.

      also, there are way to many people on here with way to many posts who portray themselves are experts, some even posting up to 15 times a day, every day......i mean who has all that time to post on here all day....EVERYDAY??? and the thing is ppl see them as experts just cos they have posted alot, since when did post count make you an expert?too many fakers hiding behind the screen making out they're an expert when they not.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

        thing is, most so called seo experts on here haven't a clue about REAL seo. Most don't even know what breadcrumbs are and how important it is to setting up an internally linked juice flowing site.
        And you know that how?

        I don't believe you have any idea how many good SEOs there are in this forum.

        And - although you may think breadcrumbs are important, marketing a business online is not all about SEO and many businesses can be successfully using the internet to get new customers without knowing or doing most of what you probably think is essential.

        Way too many people around here think they know everything and that their precious SEO rules have to be used by everyone.

        Too many kiddies who have played with spam tools and read a few ebooks and think they know how to market a business but they've never had a business and have very limited experience of different business models and the massively different approaches needed to market them based on their existing structure, whether they are brand focused and have a marcoms team and internal content generators or outsourced website management.

        SEO is a tiny part of marketing a business and if someone says "more traffic = more sales" it shows they're clueless and don't understand that this is not always true. If they're selling SEO services and they said "we can get you more traffic" without asking any questions about your business - run a mile.

        I believe this forum does have many good people and it's just the number of lying idiots that make it seem like there are less.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael_Le
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          Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

          And you know that how?


          I believe this forum does have many good people and it's just the number of lying idiots that make it seem like there are less.

          it is the lying idiots who spend all day posting on this forum like they are some kind of expert that i am referring to
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          • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
            Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

            it is the lying idiots who spend all day posting on this forum like they are some kind of expert that i am referring to
            It takes couple minutes to post FFS. maybe these guys are spending some time here but in return they're getting business from people. thats called marketing and you sir have no clue about it. so stop whining!!!!
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          • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
            Originally Posted by Michael_Le View Post

            it is the lying idiots who spend all day posting on this forum like they are some kind of expert that i am referring to
            Why focus on them?

            You know when you see people like that they have no real knowledge and are just desperate to sell something or position themselves as an expert to people who don't know any better.

            Just ignore them and focus on people who share your mindset and can bring you in a positive place.
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  • Profile picture of the author WEBGEEK
    24 month= owner of Google
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  • Profile picture of the author ampeculiar
    My exact thought. I am sick and tired of every Tom, Dick and Harry banging on about "oh, am an SEO expert and I can get you on page one in 3 weeks". It's like Google's office is based in their bedroom.




    Originally Posted by farishussain View Post

    Now a days everyone is a SEO Expert..

    1 month = Link Builder
    2 month = Sr.Link Builder
    3 month = Jr.SEO
    6 Month SEO Expert

    Then SEO Specialist.. They don't even know the "S" of SEO.. but they know how to spam.

    Hence they are so-called SEO Expert's

    I don't want to hit anyone personally but this is the real bitter truth!
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    • Originally Posted by ampeculiar View Post

      My exact thought. I am sick and tired of every Tom, Dick and Harry banging on about "oh, am an SEO expert and I can get you on page one in 3 weeks". It's like Google's office is based in their bedroom.
      People making claims about getting you to page one in 3 weeks are total spammers and out for your money most likely using black hat techniques. The fact is no one can predict how long or what kind of longevity one might have in any given SERP situation.

      People who claim to be experts but offer amazing results in short periods of time without knowing anything about your site or niche are all over the place. Its just important to do your research and read the terms and Conditions.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    2 years into internet marketing. No expert here, but I can say that I've learned A S*#@ ton.

    I love seeing new new members making their accounts in mid 2012-2013, post the dumbest comments to get their posts up and then put a signature saying "SEO EXPERT HIRE ME ME ME ME".

    You go into their site and it's some crappy looking blog, spun articles on how to make money, how to create backlinks, blah blah blah.

    Hell, till this day I don't even have a site where I brand my name or provide "SEO" services. Why? Cause I want to make sure I fill my cup before I can help others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dead Body
    yes.. there is always a difference between a submitter and SEO expert..
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  • Profile picture of the author asiriusthoth
    I would hardly call anyone who has 6 months of experience in any field an expert. Doesn't it take 7+ years in most trades to be a "professional", nonetheless an expert. I have 16+ years in on-line marketing, and I don't like to say I'm an "expert". ha ha
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  • Profile picture of the author johnjaymiami
    lol, this very common throughout the seo community now. Alot of people think there experts.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    The 2nd worst thing is people that copy/paste the same OP on multiple forums.
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    • Profile picture of the author farishussain
      Originally Posted by narongtham View Post

      So this is SEO = Spam Experience Option ?
      Yes, now it will be added.

      Originally Posted by sovereignn View Post

      12 months... KING OF THE INTERNET
      Hahaha... nice one.

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      The 2nd worst thing is people that copy/paste the same OP on multiple forums.
      There is nothing worst in this... I am trying to get views here/there everywhere :p
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      • Profile picture of the author kaytav
        Originally Posted by farishussain View Post

        There is nothing worst in this... I am trying to get views here/there everywhere :p
        Are you trying to get views? or just trying to increase your posts?
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        • Profile picture of the author dalegolden
          Originally Posted by kaytav View Post

          Are you trying to get views? or just trying to increase your posts?
          Just wish him best of luck.
          Let us know when you become an expert too.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by farishussain View Post

        There is nothing worst in this... I am trying to get views here/there everywhere :p

        Paul Revere would have been proud.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    It's easy - dumb comment, dumb seo service in sig or avatar. IGNORE
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  • And this is the most meaningless, worthless thread i have ever seen.

    Oh and they "S" in "SEO" Stands for Snorkel.
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    • Profile picture of the author farishussain
      Originally Posted by TheSeoGuy89 View Post

      And this is the most meaningless, worthless thread i have ever seen.

      Oh and they "S" in "SEO" Stands for Snorkel.
      Hello THE SEO GUY "SEO Expert" :p
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  • Profile picture of the author xubuntu69
    There is no SEO expert. There are only Artists and Geniuses.

    A genious creates/ invents something for the first time. The artist successfully reproduces it.

    Both times the content is considered as SEO accurate/proper but the first time is considered "Unique".

    What ever you do, no matter how good you are in seo, you won't go anywhere without a unique content.

    So at the end, first you need to be an Artist (cause being a genius is kind of hard), and then you can be a SEO expert.

    Now please thank me a million times
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  • Profile picture of the author saloni
    That is right most of seo work is spam or short tricks for getting rank. But SEO is now equal to real marketing and quality content and regular posts at your blog. Don't try short cuts...
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  • Profile picture of the author tech84
    I always thought the S was for Salmon?
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    • Profile picture of the author jovykhan
      True. And the saddest part when your boss will just tell in your face that it only takes a browser and internet connection to do SEO. This something hurts me coz I know SEO is more than just a browser and internet connection.

      Well, I'm doing SEO not to make a name but to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    SEO: Spam Excessively Outsourced
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    • Profile picture of the author saycob
      Originally Posted by dadamson View Post

      SEO: Spam Excessively Outsourced
      hahaha.. SEO = spaming build link
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevinhoss
    LOL, that is now the new definition of SEO? On the serious side, it is a shame that some people who called themselves SEO experts don't really know a whole lot about "SEO" at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOtraveler
    Nice thread.
    BTW, everybody knows who is NOT a seo expert. But who IS a seo expert, folks?
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    • Profile picture of the author jennyd
      Originally Posted by SEOtraveler View Post

      Nice thread.
      BTW, everybody knows who is NOT a seo expert. But who IS a seo expert, folks?
      Pretty sure THIS guy is
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by jennyd View Post

        Pretty sure THIS guy is

        I doubt that very much. If you've ever read the junk on Moz you would know why.

        Try salesman.
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  • Thing is. Even in a thread discussion, Anyone CAN seem to be a pro in terms of SEO. All you have to do is use Google

    All kidding aside, The "S' in SEO Stands for snorkel.. im sure of it
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  • Profile picture of the author M_Usman
    I'm in this industry for last 3 years but!.... I think I didn't call me as SEO "expert".....!
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    Internet won't be that interested place without them
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  • Profile picture of the author mrgood
    Originally Posted by farishussain View Post

    Now a days everyone is a SEO Expert..

    1 month = Link Builder
    2 month = Sr.Link Builder
    3 month = Jr.SEO
    6 Month SEO Expert

    Then SEO Specialist.. They don't even know the "S" of SEO.. but they know how to spam.

    Hence they are so-called SEO Expert's

    I don't want to hit anyone personally but this is the real bitter truth!
    You are maybe right, and maybe not.
    I have a certain knowledge about SEO, and I manage to get my 2 months old website in my signature from PR n/a to PR 2 in just 60 days. Am I a SEO expert because of this success ? Of course not, but this achievement of mine would be enough for someone to call himself a SEO expert.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by mrgood View Post

      You are maybe right, and maybe not.
      I have a certain knowledge about SEO, and I manage to get my 2 months old wesbite in my signature from PR n/a to PR 2 in just 60 days. Am I a SEO expert because of this success ? Of course not, but this achievement of mine would be enough for someone to call himself a SEO expert.
      Err - no it wouldn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOtraveler
    Did you hear about the rule of 10 000 hours? If you practice for 10 000 hours in a particular niche you will eventually become an expert (in the book called Outliers: The Story of Success it is stated that it does not depend on your talents or natural abilities, which I doubt though).
    It is 1250 working days, 250 weeks, which is approximately 42 months, which is 3,5 years.
    Which I doubt again, because some people with 4 or 5 year experience tell me strange things about seo.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by SEOtraveler View Post

      Did you hear about the rule of 10 000 hours? If you practice for 10 000 hours in a particular niche you will eventually become an expert (in the book called Outliers: The Story of Success it is stated that it does not depend on your talents or natural abilities, which I doubt though).
      It is 1250 working days, 250 weeks, which is approximately 42 months, which is 3,5 years.
      Which I doubt again, because some people with 4 or 5 year experience tell me strange things about seo.
      I think you missed the point that those stats are trying to make.

      You're not supposed to take it literally and apply it to everything.

      If you're 3 feet tall - no amount of practice will get you slam-dunking a basketball against world-class players.

      Time is only a small part of the equation that creates success.

      Saying you need to spend 10,000 hours to be an expert is not a rule - it's just a generalisation about the fact that in order to excel at something it takes a high level of commitment to that subject.

      When you are born you only have limited resources and how you develop can vary massively depending on how you focus your efforts.

      Becoming an SEO "expert" is not just a function of time. Sure you can teach anyone most things - but we all learn at different speeds. Some people are more creative than others, some are better communicators, some are better with numbers etc. etc.

      SEO is a very narrow subject and it's easy to get a good understanding - what makes the difference between people who think getting their personal blog a PR2 and someone who can get 1000 new clients into a business is how much testing they do, how they focus and manage their resources and how they adapt to the changing landscape of SEO so that they can always get good results because they can maximise the available options to get the desired results.

      Just "doing a bunch of seo" and hoping it gets results is where most people are at.

      Just getting some results is meaningless if you don't understand why you got them and can repeat it time after time.

      As with many things - success and expertise is a matter of perspective.

      If your business is helping your own websites and you can get the results you need for the revenue you want - who cares if you're an expert in anyone else's view?

      If your business is helping others - then you're an expert if they say you are.

      Being objectively knowledgeable and clever and having a great understanding is irrelevant if you don't use that knowledge.

      Experience is way more important than knowledge in SEO - if you can get results, who cares what you don't know - unless you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    I get paid by clients to do SEO....so, YEP...I am a pro
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  • Profile picture of the author FakeItTilYouMakeIt
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    I see it like the medical field (bear with me)... we all start as orderlies and interns. Some are happy with that level of income so they stay there, and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Some are ambitious, study hard and move up quick. Some specialize in just one aspect of the profession, that can be profitable or not depending on the speciality and demand. Some move to related fields along the way, some get fabulously rich and some lose their reputations and their houses overnight.

    There is misinformation, there is a need for continuing education to stay abreast of new technology and developments in our industry. There will always be snake oil salesman trying to make a quick buck at the cost of ethics and our industry's reputation. There will always be peeing contests, who's making more money, who knows more. But really that's just a waste of time. Anybody that is really successful doesn't have time for that, and anybody that is truly knowledgeable got there on the backs of those that came before us so they should not shun the newbie, we have all been there.

    Boils down to: we can't all be brain surgeons but we can all make some money so let's do it. Cheers.

    PS I'm wearing my flame-proof dilbert pajama bottoms this morning, just in case
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
    I think being an account manager is probably a more important skill than being a good SEO.

    I'm good at my role but there are probably others that are even better than me but because I can manage my client well enough, no one gets a look in. My clients get cold calls from SEO's all day long example:

    "Your seo provider has gained this link for you, which is bad, can we meet"
    bearing in mind their rankings have been pulling in more leads since I've come on board. Combination of over delivering, over communicating, pdf & video reporting, being nice helps and you will have a loyal client.

    So who cares if you're good or bad at SEO, question is, are you growing/retaining your client base and delivering value?

    SEO is only a small piece to the marketing puzzle and although it's the main thing I sell, I will always talk about the importance of multi channel marketing. SEO is SO damn easy, so much money out there. I'm nearly maxed out here..
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  • Profile picture of the author tolkein
    We've been providing SEO for the last 8 years, and I can tell you for a fact that SEO is becoming tougher, longer and less sustainable. This is mostly due to Google's frequent major updates ever since Larry Page took over - which has obviously worked in favour of their AdWords revenue.
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