F****** fed up with the SERPS

by Cash37
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Another long night of watching my site go from the first page on now even more keywords, to absolutely no where.

Is it the domain? Links? Of course no answers in GWMT. Google forums full of people having the same issue.

Is it even worth more time to try to build a brand in today's internet? Seems like churn and burn SEO's are the only ones winning right now.

Must be nice to have the infastructure to throw out 100 big money keyword blogs on demand with 1000's of high pr private links on demand and not a Google slap in sight while you bank... while those of us actually trying to build a destination site get slapped and outranked by content farms.

End of rant..... f*** these SERPs right now.

I'm booking a vacation.
#fed #serps
  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    I personally think you should try targeting one or two keywords. Yes, the traffic will be less but it's easier to rank with the right strategy and better for your sanity!

    I used to build EMDs and they still rank no problem (forget the nonsense you read about Panda and Penguin). Now I am concentrating on building my brand using the authority site model.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesColin
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    Simply put search engines out of the equation and you'll see there are other things to do than spend all night watching the serps! :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    I enjoy seeing my sites/posts rank in the top #10, jump out of the top #100 and then back into the top #10 (usually top #3). It's always the same pattern and I know that my site will receive it's true ranking eventually. You definitely need patience if you're looking to "launch jack" then you need to start your link building about 9 days before the launch. In my tests, that seems to be the optimum time.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Who has time to 'watch SERPS' all night? There has to be SOMETHING better you can do with your time.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

      Who has time to 'watch SERPS' all night? There has to be SOMETHING better you can do with your time.
      Man I've been saying that for years....do people actually have a real
      business? If so, TREAT IT LIKE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author coolseek
    Are you using adsense?

    Originally Posted by Cash37 View Post

    Another long night of watching my site go from the first page on now even more keywords, to absolutely no where.

    Is it the domain? Links? Of course no answers in GWMT. Google forums full of people having the same issue.

    Is it even worth more time to try to build a brand in today's internet? Seems like churn and burn SEO's are the only ones winning right now.

    Must be nice to have the infastructure to throw out 100 big money keyword blogs on demand with 1000's of high pr private links on demand and not a Google slap in sight while you bank... while those of us actually trying to build a destination site get slapped and outranked by content farms.

    End of rant..... f*** these SERPs right now.

    I'm booking a vacation.
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  • Profile picture of the author LiftMyRank
    I'd actually be interested in taking a look at your domain and offering some opinions on what may have happened, also I think G may have done a panda refresh recently, PM me if you want me to take a peek..
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  • Profile picture of the author mycongme
    I think this is the same issue with many people and they think of G being racist to some. But i don't think that unless you breach their T&C, you aren't going to get affected
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  • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
    Slow down and play smart , google is getting smarter and smarter too.
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    • Profile picture of the author smodha
      Originally Posted by GodMode52 View Post

      Slow down and play smart , google is getting smarter and smarter too.
      You think so? I personally think SEOs are getting dumber. Each year you see threads like "SEO in 2013" when the same techniques were working two years back.

      It's like pushing SEO to the limit when Google announces an update when all you need to keep doing is the basics.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    It looks like Google has been dishing out more penalties...

    Were you hit by that? I see a lot of sites got dumped (rightfully so) in the last 24 hours.
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    • Profile picture of the author smodha
      Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

      It looks like Google has been dishing out more penalties...

      Were you hit by that? I see a lot of sites got dumped (rightfully so) in the last 24 hours.
      None of my sites have been effected. That includes 12 EMDs. I'll give it a few days but so far so good...
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      • Profile picture of the author Cash37
        Originally Posted by smodha View Post

        I personally think you should try targeting one or two keywords. Yes, the traffic will be less but it's easier to rank with the right strategy and better for your sanity!

        I used to build EMDs and they still rank no problem (forget the nonsense you read about Panda and Penguin). Now I am concentrating on building my brand using the authority site model.
        I am targeting less than 4 keywords. The problem is I am competing against two content farms who Google has rewarded with 80% of the SERPS.

        Originally Posted by JamesColin View Post

        Simply put search engines out of the equation and you'll see there are other things to do than spend all night watching the serps! :-)
        Not possible in the news niche... I cant pay people to read...

        Originally Posted by smodha View Post

        I enjoy seeing my sites/posts rank in the top #10, jump out of the top #100 and then back into the top #10 (usually top #3). It's always the same pattern and I know that my site will receive it's true ranking eventually. You definitely need patience if you're looking to "launch jack" then you need to start your link building about 9 days before the launch. In my tests, that seems to be the optimum time.
        This isn't a dance, its a slap. I went from #3 to not ranked. I go through the 50+ pages of results every day at least twice, and never see my site. Like I said above, 80% of the results are between two content farms.

        Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

        Who has time to 'watch SERPS' all night? There has to be SOMETHING better you can do with your time.
        Someone who is very serious about his business. I am in the content business. I have to know what keywords, titles, domains, etc. are ranking at all times and try to produce similar content.

        Originally Posted by coolseek View Post

        Are you using adsense?
        What does that have to do with anything?

        Originally Posted by John Moore View Post

        I'd actually be interested in taking a look at your domain and offering some opinions on what may have happened, also I think G may have done a panda refresh recently, PM me if you want me to take a peek..
        It's definitely some Animal Penalty. Not interested in sharing the domain as when I do this people never respond... not interested in new competition.

        Originally Posted by mycongme View Post

        I think this is the same issue with many people and they think of G being racist to some. But i don't think that unless you breach their T&C, you aren't going to get affected
        Didn't break the T&C, no alerts in GWMT. Just slapped algorithmically.

        Originally Posted by GodMode52 View Post

        Slow down and play smart , google is getting smarter and smarter too.
        If you're hinting towards high PR Private networks, one of the content farms that owns 80% of these SERPS interlinks all their properties and subdomains with no penalty.

        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        Man I've been saying that for years....do people actually have a real
        business? If so, TREAT IT LIKE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Paul
        Last time I checked the content business has been around since people been able to read newspapers.....

        Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

        It looks like Google has been dishing out more penalties...

        Were you hit by that? I see a lot of sites got dumped (rightfully so) in the last 24 hours.
        Yes, and my site has over 1500 pages of unique content. So I don't have a clue what's going on.

        I'm off to GWMT, adding more backlinks to my disavow list and hoping something happens. If nothing happens in a month I'll be re-launching this concept on two new domains. Looking to buy at least two PR4's with strong backlinks in the industry. It's going to cost up to $2000 to relaunch but a fresh domain will pay off down the line if it gets the same respect the content farms do.
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