Do I need to use blog commenting and forum posts in my strategy

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Hi All,

I was wondering if I need to use blog commenting and forum posts in my strategy? I really do not want to, as they can be spammy as hell and may have a detrimental affect on my the authority of the sites they are linking to. I would like to avoid these altogether. How natural does it actually look anyway? As nowadays, who actually leaves a comment and a link to a site for any purpose other than seo. Surely the best natural backlinks are those linking from related content such as articles, blog posts and press releases.

Thoughts anyone?
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  • Profile picture of the author RimaNaj2011
    Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

    Hi All,

    I was wondering if I need to use blog commenting and forum posts in my strategy? I really do not want to, as they can be spammy as hell and may have a detrimental affect on my the authority of the sites they are linking to. I would like to avoid these altogether. How natural does it actually look anyway? As nowadays, who actually leaves a comment and a link to a site for any purpose other than seo. Surely the best natural backlinks are those linking from related content such as articles, blog posts and press releases.

    Thoughts anyone?
    Those are the most natural types of links. Obviously, don't use a software to do this...I don't do forum postings because that takes up way too much time, but I regularly make blog comments on authority sites in my niche, I'm usually the first to comment and I get a bunch of traffic. These comments are usually my #1 source of traffic too.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by RimaNaj2011 View Post

      Those are the most natural types of links. Obviously, don't use a software to do this...I don't do forum postings because that takes up way too much time, but I regularly make blog comments on authority sites in my niche, I'm usually the first to comment and I get a bunch of traffic. These comments are usually my #1 source of traffic too.

      There is nothing "natural" about them. That is BS.

      To the OP, no, you do not have to use them. I never use blog comments for my clients. They look spammy, plus you never know when you are posting to a site that is no longer or at some point in the future will no longer be moderated. Then you can end up with links stuck beside porn links, viagra links, etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author RimaNaj2011
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        There is nothing "natural" about them. That is BS.

        To the OP, no, you do not have to use them. I never use blog comments for my clients. They look spammy, plus you never know when you are posting to a site that is no longer or at some point in the future will no longer be moderated. Then you can end up with links stuck beside porn links, viagra links, etc.
        Well you're not supposed to put exact match name as your name. Put "Bob @ Company NAME" Comments and forum postings are natural as long as it's not BS. Don't spam and write valuable information.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Greene
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        There is nothing "natural" about them. That is BS.

        To the OP, no, you do not have to use them. I never use blog comments for my clients. They look spammy, plus you never know when you are posting to a site that is no longer or at some point in the future will no longer be moderated. Then you can end up with links stuck beside porn links, viagra links, etc.
        So, what kind of backlinks do you recommend actually? Please specify. It will be helpful for us.
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  • Profile picture of the author kaytav
    Apart from blog commenting and forum posts, what is your strategy. Would you care to share?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sclark
    I quite agree that forum commenting and blog posting may have been overused, sort to say, and that’s why they are now considered as spammy techniques (at least spammier than article submission, press releases etc.). Nevertheless, there are authority blogs and forums in almost any niche and if you take your time to increase presence there, then the SEO job turns into some kind of reputation management.

    The point is that one should probably focus on commenting/posting on very relevant blogs/forums and if you make a valuable contribution to discussions there, then it’s nothing wrong with having a backlink from this post. I believe that there is a way to turn a range of SEO tasks into kind of promotion, increasing brand awareness and improving your online presence in general. For instance, think about blog comments and forum posts as an opportunity to create so-called ‘editorial backlinks’ – those placed within a body of text.

    I also don’t really care about a link being either do- or no-follow, because they will diversify a backlink profile anyway. So, if you choose to make input to authority blogs and forums and leave (may be fewer) meaningful comments there, then forum posting and blog commenting are pretty good techniques for diversifying the backlink profile, as well as for building reputation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Velant
    Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

    Hi All,

    I was wondering if I need to use blog commenting and forum posts in my strategy? I really do not want to, as they can be spammy as hell and may have a detrimental affect on my the authority of the sites they are linking to. I would like to avoid these altogether. How natural does it actually look anyway?
    Thoughts anyone?
    There is nothing unnatural about them, but yes, you can avoid them altogether.

    Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

    As nowadays, who actually leaves a comment and a link to a site for any purpose other than seo.
    Thoughts anyone?
    Not necessarily. If you leave comment on high-traffic nofollow'ed blog - the SEO value of it is zero, however it maybe a good traffic source for sometime and brand promotion provided your comment is indeed helpful and vaualble to the blog readers.



    Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

    Surely the best natural backlinks are those linking from related content such as articles, blog posts and press releases.
    Content relevance is an SEO myth. Link quality is of unmeasurably higher importance, while relevance is irrelevant!
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  • Profile picture of the author seamy82
    Content relevancy is a myth? What are you basing this on? Have you carried out test studies on this? If so, can you elaborate on this? I'm constantly busting my ass to create relevant content on my linking blogs, articles and web2.0s. If this is futile, then I could put anything on there and make my life a lot easier.
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  • You need to be careful about these SEO tactics. It is actually a good strategy is used correctly. Only do quality comments on blogs which are relevant to your website and I mean make sure the comments are seriously good, not a load of spam like - Good Article.

    In regards to forums, again make sure they are 100% relevant to your website and again do not spam the forum with unnecessary comments. Ensure you give a quality answer to a query that someone has posted or even provide a quality post.

    However do not rely solely on these two techniques, you should be looking at the social side of your website as well as guest posting to relevant authority blogs with a quality article.

    Cheers,
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I have a few thousand forum post with sig. links, they're old post/links & they're defiantly in the same niche as my own sites & never spam. The niche forum traffic never stops, love it, wouldn't trade it for anything.

    The trick (If you want to call it that) is to actually give people something they can use. I don't do articles so I'm not sure how that would work out, I know most folks around here are into articles.

    What I've found is, If you know how to do something that has a learning curve (takes a lot of time to learn) then you have an advantage that will keep forum traffic flowing into your site. Everyone is noob at some point in their life, so they need help (bingo/traffic).

    Here's a basic example. Say there's a job forum, thousands of daily unique traffic, you don't own the niche forum. So create a site with downloadable resume templates (download traffic is easy, lol). Prime the forum traffic by posting the free templates directly on the niche forum, no self promotion, no sig. links. Help out by answering relevant questions (be legit). Build up a good rep., then add the sig. link later. Keep answering legit questions on the same niche forum.

    My point is, most people need help learning how to structure a job resume & the niche traffic is endless (everyone needs money/jobs/careers). The niche is also evergreen (never goes out of style).

    So how would you monetize something like a free resume template site? You could have a resume writing service, use the free templates as lead generation traffic. You could use Adsense, or maybe your own product that breaks down how to create a great resume, interview tips, statistics (who's hiring in 2013?, or whatever). Make it a point to offer something good, because that's where the traffic comes into play by posting links for you, or telling other people what you have to offer.

    As far as SEO, forums usually blow, most pages are low PR, most threads have pagination links that no other pages outside the thread link to.

    Stick with same niche forums as direct traffic, give them something useful. If your one of those guys that walks around with his hand out asking everyone what can you give me, well, ignore this comment because building up repeat quality traffic doesn't work that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by RimaNaj2011 View Post

      Well you're not supposed to put exact match name as your name. Put "Bob @ Company NAME"
      I'm well aware of HOW to build comment links.

      You said...

      Originally Posted by RimaNaj2011 View Post

      Those are the most natural types of links.
      And I said you are wrong. There is NOTHING "natural" about blog comment links. There are clearly manually built with the intention of manipulating the search rankings.

      You can justify them anyway you want. Use them. Don't use them. I don't care.

      I was just disagreeing with you calling them "natural".
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      • Profile picture of the author RimaNaj2011
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I'm well aware of HOW to build comment links.

        You said...



        And I said you are wrong. There is NOTHING "natural" about blog comment links. There are clearly manually built with the intention of manipulating the search rankings.

        You can justify them anyway you want. Use them. Don't use them. I don't care.

        I was just disagreeing with you calling them "natural".
        Ok, I misunderstood what you said. I took you saying not natural as spammy. I thought you were saying they weren't "white hat" so to speak.

        But yeah I agree with that, they're not natural since they don't grow organically, you have to make the comments/posts.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by RimaNaj2011 View Post

          Ok, I misunderstood what you said. I took you saying not natural as spammy. I thought you were saying they weren't "white hat" so to speak.
          Well, they are not "white hat".
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          • Profile picture of the author RimaNaj2011
            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            Well, they are not "white hat".
            let's just agree to disagree here.
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            • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
              Originally Posted by RimaNaj2011 View Post

              let's just agree to disagree here.
              Technically, ANY form of manual link creation is considered at least "grey hat."
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  • Profile picture of the author kaytav
    Nice tips...Yukon. Very interesting stuff.Thanks for the share
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  • Profile picture of the author seamy82
    Everyone is always hammering down my throat the need for natural backlinking. My money sites provide local services, so I will never get leads through blog commenting. I just wanted to know if I need them to make my linking structure look natural or can I get away without it? Anyway, doesn't google turn a blind eye to back linking now, if you are creating good quality resources with which to link from? It's kind of like they know it will never go away but are now demanding those who do it, create link resources of high quality. Say if I had a blog network of twenty websites, all with great content focusing on different areas of a niche and linked this back to my money site, how would Google have an issue with this?
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

    Hi All,

    I was wondering if I need to use blog commenting and forum posts in my strategy? I really do not want to, as they can be spammy as hell and may have a detrimental affect on my the authority of the sites they are linking to. I would like to avoid these altogether. How natural does it actually look anyway? As nowadays, who actually leaves a comment and a link to a site for any purpose other than seo. Surely the best natural backlinks are those linking from related content such as articles, blog posts and press releases.

    Thoughts anyone?
    I'm not sure why you'd consider leaving legitimate comments (in other words, comments that you'd approve yourself) as spammy.

    Also, forum posting is a GREAT way to drive really targeted traffic to your site or offer. I do it daily and it's still one of the best converting sources of traffic I've experienced. As with blog commenting, don't post junk just to get your sig / link seen and you'll be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidfrankk
    They are only spammy if you spam through them. Use blogs and forums to interact with people, help them when you can and build friendly relationships. If you can do these things, these techniques will only benefit you.
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    • Profile picture of the author ymest
      Originally Posted by davidfrankk View Post

      They are only spammy if you spam through them. Use blogs and forums to interact with people, help them when you can and build friendly relationships. If you can do these things, these techniques will only benefit you.
      Hi DavidFrank! You've summed it all up! This is exactly how it should be done and It is applicable to most things anyway! I really think that it's best to focus on the quality of what you're writing--be it on forums on blogs-- rather than think of it as a "tactic"! Tactics are meant for wars, usually, lol! Not IM! I have had a nice and steady flow of traffic with blog and forum commenting and obviously, I don't write " nice articles, thanks" but I interact, comment on what I have just read (including other peoples comments" and it works! I have managed to get to know quite a few of them and some have turned into clients and really good friends! Value vs Spam...that is the question and the answer is DEAD EASY!

      Thanks!

      Yoan
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  • Profile picture of the author nidjo
    As few people here have said - nothing wrong with these type of links, actually these are one of the most natural links you can get.

    So why not:

    1. find blogs relevant to your niche and post good useful comment there
    2. find forums relevant to your niche and offer tips, advice and info there.

    Try to actually help people with your knowledge and you will be surprised at the response.
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  • Profile picture of the author InitialEffort
    Blog commenting can be effective provided your comment is valuable. But we don’t recommend it. Aside from the reason that most sites are moderated, it is also time consuming. Deleted comments would cause negative link velocity and could decrease your rankings.
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    • Profile picture of the author zakizarifah
      Originally Posted by InitialEffort View Post

      Blog commenting can be effective provided your comment is valuable. But we don't recommend it. Aside from the reason that most sites are moderated, it is also time consuming. Deleted comments would cause negative link velocity and could decrease your rankings.

      This is the first time I heard about this.

      Care to share where you get this info. from?

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
    Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

    As nowadays, who actually leaves a comment and a link to a site for any purpose other than seo?
    Thats just it, you know? Who actually posts websites or web20's or backlinks or comments other than for seo purposes? The whole google/seo'er thing has become a huuuuuuuge game of chess. Check. Check. Check. Check. Bloggers used to blog, now they facebook. Info sites used to be for just info, now they are for monetarization (except for the angelic Wikipedia). Google started with being the goto site for information, and now it has to constantly be trimming it's hedges. What was the original question? Oh well, no time, gotta go build some more backlinks, gotta stay ahead of the game!! :p
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