Are There Google Spies on WarriroForum

Very sometimes I hide my sig when I expect that people would reply back with a comment like "huh look at you, judging me while at the same time promoting your own services in your sig".

And I love to judge people, but when I do I am always right, that's the difference that they don't see, but still to avoid such dull comment I sometimes disable the sig, most of the time I don't give a crap though.

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tech84

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Very sometimes I hide my sig when I expect that people would reply back with a comment like "huh look at you, judging me while at the same time promoting your own services in your sig".

Well you're not exactly the type who asks questions like "What are backlinks?" and then has a sig for SEO services.

lol

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jovykhan

11 years ago

Some people don't need signature to promote there business. Joining forum and having a signature is their secondary perhaps not an option in joining but helping people.

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uzojvp

11 years ago

Ma second question is, are there google spies here on WF. Spies I mean people who are paid to note and watch the latest treak of seo on forums..

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time4vps 11 years ago

Originally Posted by uzojvp

Ma second question is, are there google spies here on WF. Spies I mean people who are paid to note and watch the latest treak of seo on forums..

Google does not have time for that
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squadron

11 years ago

Originally Posted by uzojvp

Ma second question is, are there google spies here on WF. Spies I mean people who are paid to note and watch the latest treak of seo on forums..

Yes there are. And they will also buy link packets via WSOs, backtrace them and then de-rank the networks.

It's a lot easier to pay an outsourcer $8 to $10 per hour to lurk on the forums and find people selling links than trying to work out if a link is paid for or not.

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nik0 Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by squadron

Yes there are. And they will also buy link packets via WSOs, backtrace them and then de-rank the networks.

Lol keep on dreaming, in that case my "small" network and a tons of others would already have been deindexed, I only had a deindexrate of 0.16%/month, that's 3 domains over >8 months.

And what would they really catch, there are not that many people on the WF with their own private network where they sell links, maybe a dozen or so, while there are 10.000's of SEO companies that do not advertise at the forum, you think they are going to buy links from them as well?

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RimaNaj2011

11 years ago

Originally Posted by squadron

Yes there are. And they will also buy link packets via WSOs, backtrace them and then de-rank the networks.

It's a lot easier to pay an outsourcer $8 to $10 per hour to lurk on the forums and find people selling links than trying to work out if a link is paid for or not.

I hope this is sarcasm.

This forum is a fart compared to what Google really cares about.

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Bambu

11 years ago

I am sure some Google employs are paid to keep tabs on certain IM/SEO forums. IMO, this is not one of them or if they do, it is low on the list of forums they keep an eye on.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

If you mean why do people not share their URL when they have a specific question about a site, it's simple. Let's say you found a niche that has the potential to be fairly profitable. No matter how good you are at internet marketing, there are probably people far better at it than you on this forum. So why invite difficult competition into your niche?

As for Google having spies... I don't think they are really spies, but I'm sure they monitor popular IM and SEO forums to keep tabs on the latest trends. Why wouldn't they? You can pretty much guarantee that if there is a popular trend in SEO on forums, it is going to get targeted by search engines. Look at the most popular link building methods over the past 4-5 years...

Linkwheels... Dead
Forum profile links... Dead
Public blog networks... Dead or being killed off

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gregdavidson727

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

If you mean why do people not share their URL when they have a specific question about a site, it's simple. Let's say you found a niche that has the potential to be fairly profitable. No matter how good you are at internet marketing, there are probably people far better at it than you on this forum. So why invite difficult competition into your niche?

As for Google having spies... I don't think they are really spies, but I'm sure they monitor popular IM and SEO forums to keep tabs on the latest trends. Why wouldn't they? You can pretty much guarantee that if there is a popular trend in SEO on forums, it is going to get targeted by search engines. Look at the most popular link building methods over the past 4-5 years...

Linkwheels... Dead
Forum profile links... Dead
Public blog networks... Dead or being killed off

Yeah, but there could be another value there that you're missing. You're saying that forum signatures have no SEO value. But if the percentage of returning visitors is a factor, then they do. Right now my percentage is above 40%. That's because I keep on posting in this forum and the same people keep on visiting my site. The same goes for bounce rate. If I'm promoting my website with "useless backlinks" but that improves my bounce rate then that could also effect my rankings in the search engines. It tells Google that I'm not spamming and focusing on a relevant audience.

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RedShifted

11 years ago

I've actually spent the last couple of days going through all my backlinks and removing my money site link from threads. Eventually I will remove it from my profile too.

I don't think anyone would want to compete with me right now. Its too early. And you do need special certification to sell what I sell. But I'm still investing a lot of time and money to dominate the SERPs. So 6 months from now, I may have competitors in my industry, searching my links on here, and that would not be good at all.

I'm not actually worried about people on WF. I'm worried about people in my niche, most who don't hang out on WF, finding certain posts I've made, that outline many of my strategies.

Call it paranoia, but I've done so much spying on my competitors, that naturally you start getting paranoid yourself. =]

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Danny Shaw

11 years ago

Yes there is... No question! WF, BHW, TRT and others are all watched for reactions of propaganda and sneaky tracking. Why try and guess what a crowd of people intend if you can just read their open discussions? True high level marketers know to keep quite about what works! And then maybe in a year when it is dying down sell the idea/technique to others..... Yes it is a dog eat.......

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Posting a link on an IM forum to a money site would be equivalent to throwing yourself in front of a bus.

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gregdavidson727

11 years ago

Originally Posted by uzojvp

What could be the reason most people hide their Signature on WF when either asking a question?
1. Is it that there are google spies here
2. or they don't want other warriors for outrank them
3. or kill their site with negative seo or what??

One of my reasons for asking this question is because I see a lot of people ask question and refuse to give the website and keyword they are looking for the solution for....

There are Google spies all around us. They drive up and down your streets with a unique camera on top of their vehicles.

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tech84 11 years ago

Google is everywhere! [Insert evil laugh here]

from 9gag (no shit Sherlock!)
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- gregdavidson727 11 years ago
  
  You're joking about it now but this could be reality 40 or 50 years from now. Imagine a world where everything is monitored 24/7 including your THOUGHTS.
  
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- JSProjects 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tech84
  
  Google is everywhere! [Insert evil laugh here]
  
  Haha that is awesome.
  
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intergen

11 years ago

I see spies.....

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jfambrini

11 years ago

George Orwell was right, he just got the year wrong. Big Brother is here and its name is Google...

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

A real google spy would not remove his sig.

He/she would leave it in place and point it to something like a course on how to build SEO networks so no one would suspect him

He would get lots of thanks and embed himself as a long time member and earn himself the respect of many and the disdain of many more. He would curse out adsense and tell people adwords is too expensive to use to keep his identity secret.

He would then post directly in a thread about Google spies enumerating all the things that they would and wouldn't do and then give a sinister laugh to himself as they still could not figure out his identity being quite confident that he could only be joking.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Yeah, but there could be another value there that you're missing. You're saying that forum signatures have no SEO value. But if the percentage of returning visitors is a factor, then they do. Right now my percentage is above 40%. That's because I keep on posting in this forum and the same people keep on visiting my site. The same goes for bounce rate. If I'm promoting my website with "useless backlinks" but that improves my bounce rate then that could also effect my rankings in the search engines. It tells Google that I'm not spamming and focusing on a relevant audience.

Google has no idea if a website is getting returning visitors or not.

The only bounce rate they are aware of and might potentially use in rankings is when someone clicks on a listing in the SERP and immediately hits the back button and chooses another listing.

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Mike Anthony 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Google has no idea if a website is getting returning visitors or not.

I wouldn't be to sure of that. They have three different potential ways

Logged in users (tracking evidenced by personalized results)
adsense (where they clearly leave cookies)
Chrome

Can't locate every return visitor but they should be able to find some if they want to look.
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PerformanceMan

11 years ago

Why would they bother? There's no info here about SEO that could be used by anyone

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11 years ago

@ tech84 - ROFL! That was hilarious.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I wouldn't be to sure of that. They have three different potential ways

Logged in users (tracking evidenced by personalized results)
adsense (where they clearly leave cookies)
Chrome

Can't locate every return visitor but they should be able to find some if they want to look.

Okay, but using any or all of those methods would only allow them to track data for a small percentage of traffic on an even smaller percentage of websites.

For 80+% of the sites out there, they would have no data. Probably over 90%. That is why I highly doubt it has any impact on rankings. They don't have enough data to incorporate it on the majority of websites.

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IMSince2003

11 years ago

Google not only monitors this forum, but has several dozen full time employees who pose as senior warriors offering SEO advice to confuse the newbies. They also look at sites in your signature and de-index those too, so be careful!

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by IMSince2003

Google not only monitors this forum, but has several dozen full time employees who pose as senior warriors offering SEO advice to confuse the newbies. They also look at sites in your signature and de-index those too, so be careful!

I cannot tell if you are being sarcastic or honest.

We need a sarcasm font.

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IMSince2003

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

I cannot tell if you are being sarcastic or honest.

We need a sarcasm font.

My apologies, I thought it would be clear if I said "several dozen employees".

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by IMSince2003

Google not only monitors this forum, but has several dozen full time employees who pose as senior warriors offering SEO advice to confuse the newbies. They also look at sites in your signature and de-index those too, so be careful!

Originally Posted by IMSince2003

My apologies, I thought it would be clear if I said "several dozen employees".

I still have no idea if you are being serious about the original comment or not.

You really think there are people on hear posting to confuse people and deindexing sites in signatures?

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IMSince2003

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

I still have no idea if you are being serious about the original comment or not.

You really think there are people on hear posting to confuse people and deindexing sites in signatures?

OK, I did not think it would go this far. Yes, it was just a joke. Having said that, you have far more to worry about from fellow WF members if you expose too much of your business model here in the forum. Not things that should be shared like helpful tips and information, I mean things like having the url to your niche/money sites in your signature (unless you are promoting IM products/services). Hope this clears it up!

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JSProjects

11 years ago

Originally Posted by IMSince2003

Google not only monitors this forum, but has several dozen full time employees who pose as senior warriors offering SEO advice to confuse the newbies. They also look at sites in your signature and de-index those too, so be careful!

I think you are being sarcastic. But I wouldn't put it past them to hire a few low-end employees and force them to monitor the big SEO forums.

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RedShifted

11 years ago

"Warriro Forum" ..?

Is that the Spanish version of WF?

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smodha 11 years ago

Originally Posted by RedShifted

"Warriro Forum" ..?

Is that the Spanish version of WF?

LOL, I was thinking the Japanese clone.
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avimaell 11 years ago

its "Forum Guerrero" in Spanish dude
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twilightofidols

11 years ago

Common sense would dictate that they are actively involved in monitoring the SEO marketing community because their multi-billion dollar profits in part depend on whether or not these people are able to manipulate the search results against what is most profitable to Google, and in the interest of the customer base.

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smodha

11 years ago

Google is keeping a stern eye over everything. Their future depends on it...

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JMac

11 years ago

I think it is more people are afraid of other commenting on their site or maybe even stealing their ideas. Honestly, if someone needs help, they need to show the site.

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jxam69

11 years ago

I thought everyone knew that the Warrior forum was set up by Google.

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fortony

11 years ago

With the kind of data Google has access to, I think they have better things to do than spy on forums.

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JSProjects

11 years ago

Originally Posted by fortony

With the kind of data Google has access to, I think they have better things to do than spy on forums.

There are several private forums that share a some really elaborate techniques. Nothing you'd see here @ the WF, and, for the most part, incredibly blackhat. You don't think Google has a few low-end office drones joining and participating in these every once and awhile?

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fortony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by JSProjects

There are several private forums that share a some really elaborate techniques. Nothing you'd see here @ the WF, and, for the most part, incredibly blackhat. You don't think Google has a few low-end office drones joining and participating in these every once and awhile?

I guess that could be a possibility. Maybe just to see what the blackhat guys are up to. Just to get an idea of the industry, not to actually spy on individuals

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JSProjects 11 years ago

Originally Posted by fortony

I guess that could be a possibility. Maybe just to see what the blackhat guys are up to. Just to get an idea of the industry, not to actually spy on individuals

That's pretty much what I meant.
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uzojvp 11 years ago

Originally Posted by jxam69

I thought everyone knew that the Warrior forum was set up by Google.

Is that true?
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- JSProjects 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by uzojvp
  
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Luis Vaugier 11 years ago

Originally Posted by jxam69

I thought everyone knew that the Warrior forum was set up by Google.

Lol! yup seems nobody knows it
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avimaell

11 years ago

Google is Like The Government Here On The Net.Applying Rules And Laws.Internet Suppost To be A free WORLD

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uzojvp 11 years ago

Originally Posted by avimaell

Google is Like The Government Here On The Net.Applying Rules And Laws.Internet Suppost To be A free WORLD

Maybe We need pick out a day and do a mass protest to go and OCCUPY google's office with placards
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stamford

11 years ago

I think the OP is a Google employee??

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uzojvp 11 years ago

Originally Posted by stamford

I think the OP is a Google employee??

Really! Would not reject their offer if am asked to work for them..
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JNFerree 11 years ago

Originally Posted by stamford

I think the OP is a Google employee??

All of the above it probably the case. Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful or some version of that mission is in play. I quit trying to outfox Google a long time ago so my sig is gonna stay
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dennis09

11 years ago

It's me, i'm the WF spy.

Isn't it obvious??

Why else would someone so cool and sexy come to hang out with you guys?

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Mike Anthony 11 years ago

Originally Posted by dennis09

It's me, i'm the WF spy.

Isn't it obvious??

So thats why you changed your avatar? So you could pin the whole thing on a black guy. Yep time to use my favorite animated gif again
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  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  So thats why you changed your avatar? So you could pin the whole thing on a black guy. Yep time to use my favorite animated gif again
  
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Paul Gram

11 years ago

I guarantee that the Google web-spam team monitors this and a few other high profile forums. It has nothing to do with signatures though.

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Marc_L

11 years ago

If there were google spies on this forum they'd be tickled pink with all the BS being spread around here.

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dennis09 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Marc_L

If there were google spies on this forum they'd be tickled pink with all the BS being spread around here.

Well I did say no offense
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  Originally Posted by dennis09
  
  Well I did say no offense
  
  I saw what you did there with the tickled pink comment. You in twouble however I have no animated gif for that......yet
  
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gearmonkey

11 years ago

No, there are no google spies. Lol

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11 years ago

It is true.

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paulgl 11 years ago

I'll say up front that I did not read this entire thread.

Forget about google spies. You should be on the look
out for people who want to attack your site, report
you to google, get you banned, etc.

One reason you should not share one single money
site here, nor should you ever buy anything from
fiverr that involves said sites.

Case in point. Some knucklehead posts about how to rank
in youtube. Last step is to buy YT views using their site,
complete with backlink, spammed. I told the guy upfront
he's a clown, breaking YT and adsense TOS. But look at
the thread. People saying thanks and all that. Then I said
beware, you are violation TOS, and you are putting your
sites in jeopardy. Especially to people who have itchy
fingers.

Now I want to state up front I never ever waste anytime
reporting anyone or anything to google. I let google's
bots and auto tools do the job. What comes around goes
around. Why do you think there are so many failed threads,
banned threads, all starting with, "I have been doing this
for years..."

So, if you propose to violate google webmaster guidelines,
adsense or YT tos, and have a sig, to ANY page, you
are asking for trouble. Not from google spies, but from
WF members who might have a chip on their shoulder.

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synaptium

11 years ago

There are google spies just like there a lot of blackhatters...infact all blackhat site members are warrior forum members.

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Danny Shaw 11 years ago

Originally Posted by synaptium

There are google spies just like there a lot of blackhatters...infact all blackhat site members are warrior forum members.

Many Blackhatters get employed by G???
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