No one offers On-page Optimisation Service

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I can't believe no one offers onpage optimisation services, including checking the html of the site. I use swfobject and I am sure that it causes ranking drops because of hidden divs. Also iframe use seems to be hindering my site also but can't get an expert to check this for me. Anyone out there have any ideas on best practices for the use of these techniques?

Cheers,
Seamy
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    It involves a lot of work and can bring extra costs that the client is not willing to pay, like adding more content etc, so then it would still be half work.

    I think the main reason is that just onpage is not profitable enough for most, and personally I don't know to much about html errors, there are free online tools to do a html check though.

    If you're sure that your hidden div's hurt your rankings, sounds unlikely but well, then why don't you hire a web designer to fix it for you?
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  • Profile picture of the author seamy82
    It is just strange that no one offers a service that can look at your website and tell you what you are doing wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andy Bo
      Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

      It is just strange that no one offers a service that can look at your website and tell you what you are doing wrong.
      Good point Seamy.

      This is exactly what I'm looking for at the minute.

      Anybody interested pls PM me or email andybeaumont606@gmail.com

      Thanks,

      Andy
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I think the main reason is that just onpage is not profitable enough for most, and personally I don't know to much about html errors, there are free online tools to do a html check though.
        Originally Posted by LiftMyRank View Post

        You're right that onpage services aren't really popular,
        Some of the answers in this thread from people who CLAIM to offer SEO are just UTTERLY ridiculous. Rather than not being popular

        ALMOST EVERY PROFESSIONAL SEO OFFERS ON PAGE SEO.

        Nothing illustrates how skewed from reality in the bigger IM world this board is . Let me let you in on a secret :rolleyes:

        SEO stands for SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION

        Search engines crawl PAGES. Part of what has to be optimized in order to claim you are doing SEO

        is to optimize.....guess what? PAGES.

        Now thankfully most pages on the modern web come with a great deal of the pages optimized. CMS do your page titles and H1 tags etc and for the majority of the web where people actually write about subjects rather than count keywords the LSI of most pages is not too bad.

        But to say that on page SEO is not popular is pure nonsense. Get out of forums and you will see ALMOST EVERY SEO offering it and doing it when a client has a problem on page. Why?

        BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE JOB. SEO is not only about links. Sheeeeesh

        So why is it hard to find HERE ON WF (which does not represent even ten percents of the entire SEO world). take your pick

        A) you can't push a button or hire a VA to do it properly
        B) It costs more and people HERE are not willing to pay for it
        C) You have to know something about on page SEO to offer it (and the board has the idea that you are an SEO when you own scrapebox, GSA, can install WP and know the phrase "anchor text"
        D) Apparently even people claiming to be real SEOs think that SEO is only about links (go figure never heard of page relevance)

        So OP the answer is simple. Get out of the forums and look around. You will find thousands of SEOs that deal with on page every day. However if you are thinking it will not be at least a few hundred dollars then get a book on SEO. For all the crap you read here almost every book on SEO covers it.

        For the "SEOs" saying on page is optional or not popular for SEO AND who do not offer it - do us all a favor.

        Call yourselves link sellers instead. Stop junking up the industry. Its my right to say because as a SEO you affect the perception of my industry and thereby indirectly affect my livelihood.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

      It is just strange that no one offers a service that can look at your website and tell you what you are doing wrong.

      That's not true. Every SEO I know offers that.

      WSO sellers do not usually offer it, but I have never seen a real SEO selling services as a WSO either. They couldn't audit a site if their life depended on it. Their idea of SEO is making sure you have title tags on your site, a 500-word article, and "high PR" backlinks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        That's not true. Every SEO I know offers that.

        WSO sellers do not usually offer it, but I have never seen a real SEO selling services as a WSO either. They couldn't audit a site if their life depended on it. Their idea of SEO is making sure you have title tags on your site, a 500-word article, and "high PR" backlinks.
        Short version to my longer rant. I don't fault the OP at all for thinking it but to me its just crazy for SEOs to claim its accurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author LiftMyRank
    You're right that onpage services aren't really popular, I guess they're not as "sexy" as off-page services, however it's still very important to have your onpage right as it can make a huge difference, and it's for this reason that we offer a on-page/keyword service as a add-on to our normal off-page service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

    . I use swfobject and I am sure that it causes ranking drops because of hidden divs. Also iframe use seems to be hindering my site also but can't get an expert to check this for me. Anyone out there have any ideas on best practices for the use of these techniques?
    The use of a swfobject by itself should not affect your site unless you are saying its huge part of your site and you have a general architecture problem. But let me put it to you straight

    Your site probably needs to be rebuilt. Flash is on its way out for HTML5 and you can dress up the iframe problem or try to work around it but it will never be great SEO wise. Not just me saying it. Google has weighed in long ago

    https://support.google.com/webmaster...er/34445?hl=en

    So regardless if you can tweak things you probably should be looking to modernize your page so it can keep up for the years to come.
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    • Profile picture of the author koocnaed
      I would disagree with this. All reputable SEO Companies will do an On-Page SEO Evaluation. As has been said before, it is not the "flashy" side of SEO...

      I am sure if you contact them they offer the service
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

    I can't believe no one offers onpage optimisation services, including checking the html of the site. I use swfobject and I am sure that it causes ranking drops because of hidden divs. Also iframe use seems to be hindering my site also but can't get an expert to check this for me. Anyone out there have any ideas on best practices for the use of these techniques?

    Cheers,
    Seamy
    Here's one

    https://yoast.com/hire-us/

    Mike woke up this morning and found there was no sugar for his cornflakes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      Here's one

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      Mike woke up this morning and found there was no sugar for his cornflakes.
      You must be talking about Some other Mike. MikeF has a girlfiend and I have a wife. If I woke up and saw you in my house I'd put a bullet in you.

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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        I think it's time for me to offer my services lol. All I've been doing the past year are on page SEO changes . I never thought it get so technical. Damn we take Wordpress for granted lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        You must be talking about Some other Mike. MikeF has a girlfiend and I have a wife. If I woke up and saw you in my house I'd put a bullet in you.

        Anyway better bring your checkbook for yoast



        $1160 US

        Check your Tenancy Contract.

        I never visit tenants homes unless the rent gets way overdue. I don't like travelling to the hood without good reason.

        No Joost ain't that cheap, but I'd rather point someone in that direction then the offers at bestseoexpertspecialist.com
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          No Joost ain't that cheap, but I'd rather point someone in that direction then the offers at bestseoexpertspecialist.com

          But they are an expert and a specialist. What could go wrong?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ebuzznet
    Most of the High Authority SEO companies offer on Page seo... one example is Neil Patel's Company... or browse his blog quicksprout
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    A large percentage of SEO is actually on-page SEO, it should be the first place you start, otherwise you'll be doing a bunch of unnecessary work when you figure out little things that are important need tweaked, like ugly URLs (ex: hxxp://domain.com/?p=257). That's not a page/URL I would want to point external backlinks.

    I agree with the comments above, If your SEO doesn't know HTML they're most likely only a link seller.

    OP, If you really need content delivered via flash it's better to use a remote self hosted (same domain) xml file to store the content which will show up as plain text on the Google Cache (text version). It's a lot of work setting up the project, after the project is setup it's mostly repetitive copy/pasting URLs, content in the xml file.

    Keep in mind xml files can easily be crawled by Googlebot since xml is plain text. XML files can also have PR, which proves it's not much different then a regular HTML web page as far as SEO goes.

    Also keep in mind it will cost money to have this type of setup but the end result can be worthwhile since the flash can be setup as a movie file (content via xml file) & display a video thumbnail image in Google SERPs. I'm a fan of video thumbnail images for increasing SERP CTR. It's one of the most underused search listing tweaks that can be done since it's a bit more complex than basic SEO (that's good news for the rest of us). It's funny because I know video related sites that don't even optimize their search listings with video thumbnail images, of all people, they should be doing this type of SEO (some still don't).

    Frames is hit and miss for SEO, I've seen a site (bookmarked it) that has a ranked internal page with 100% frames that also has Google Sitelinks for the same page, If you search the page title without quotes the same page has Mega Sitelinks, when you view the Google Cache (text version) the entire page is blank, the page also has a PR3. Personally I wouldn't use frames, just not a fan but this example was still interesting (IMO).

    Anyways, that's what SEOs do, they deal with HTML & page source code. Looking at your source code & competition source code & both Caches (text version). Most people that don't know this type of research would be very surprised what's happening on web pages for example the frames page I mentioned above with zero direct content on the ranked page (blank cache).
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    I think I've never dealt with a SEO company that would not touch on-page SEO, and it actually seems to be very high on their list. Often seems to be a part of a service package, though. It's also pretty typical that the deliverable is a report that gets passed to the client's webmaster.

    I'd guess that a simple report would be a bit hard to justify in the case there's not much to improve on the client's site. Even though it seems that a good SEO will always find something to fix. I say this as a guy who takes pride in building websites that are reasonably search engine friendly.
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    Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
    Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

    What's your excuse?
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