I'm on first page of google.co.uk! Woohoo

15 years ago

Well done. My experience with new sites is that they can bounce around in the rankings a bit, so don't be too discouraged if your rankings fall. I'll be interested to hear updates on how this works out for you. Hope you get lots of sales.

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ehicks727

15 years ago

I call this the Google new content "bump". Google has publicly announced that they give newer content favor in the rankings, at least for a short time.

I've actually been tracking this for about two years, and my conclusions are that new content gets a higher ranking for about two weeks, then unless you've done other activity to secure its ranking, it'll slide down, sometimes several pages.

I've added new content to blogs that instantly shoot to #2-3 and then like clockwork, two weeks later, they fall. I've tested this on completely new domains as well... same thing.

Normally, I'm not a "link chaser", but in this case, I've found that if I wait about a week, and then throw some links at the page, it won't slide down quite as far as if I did nothing.

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Kevin Lam 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ehicks727

I call this the Google new content "bump". Google has publicly announced that they give newer content favor in the rankings, at least for a short time.

This was exactly what I was talking about before on my site and even explaining to people. New content will quickly rank high, but then get dropped.

Now, ranking #1 on the first page from a single bookmark. That's crazy. At least Michael has gotten himself back on page one and doing well. Good job, Michael.
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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

me and my big mouth! Slid down to position 14 from 7. Oh well
Still early days

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intelinside

15 years ago

I guess it was because of the QDF factor.

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zealotknight

15 years ago

it makes sense coz usually people search for a website using the name of the product which in this case is also your keyword.

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roukarous

15 years ago

Congratulations to you, but be aware that your site's ranking can fluctuate for several weeks and could even dissapear from the first 10 pages during that period.

Anyway, good job.

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scene4u

15 years ago

If you build quality links to the site and update your content regularly then with your keyword rich domain, you should soon be near the top of page one and making much more money than you currently are.

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

update

Im no where to be found in google.co.uk,

google dance as they say

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intelinside

15 years ago

Originally Posted by michael_nguyen

update

Im no where to be found in google.co.uk,

google dance as they say

No, Google Dance does not happen anymore as stated by Matt Cutt's HERE.

G has made changes to their indexing algorithm and now things converge more quickly so it is hard to have G dance again.

But, it is the Quality Deserve Freshness (QDF) factor which pushes the fresh pages to the top of the SERPs for some time and then gradually that page moves back to its deserved position based on its PR and other 200 factors.

QDF is an important factor especially for News Sites where you get breaking news and it is important that these pages show up instantly in SERPs so G algo does exactly that.

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

thanks for clear up. so does that mean a website has a time frame to do hardcore seo to stay at the top in a short time frame? eg 2 weeks?

Originally Posted by intelinside

No, Google Dance does not happen anymore as stated by Matt Cutt's HERE.

G has made changes to their indexing algorithm and now things converge more quickly so it is hard to have G dance again.

But, it is the Quality Deserve Freshness (QDF) factor which pushes the fresh pages to the top of the SERPs for some time and then gradually that page moves back to its deserved position based on its PR and other 200 factors.

QDF is an important factor especially for News Sites where you get breaking news and it is important that these pages show up instantly in SERPs so G algo does exactly that.

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intelinside 15 years ago

Originally Posted by michael_nguyen

thanks for clear up. so does that mean a website has a time frame to do hardcore seo to stay at the top in a short time frame? eg 2 weeks?

Yes, Exactly.

But, bear in mind that you don't overdo things like link building or keyword spamming in your hardcore SEO practice

Actually, time is the key here.

This delay is by design in SE algorithm and one has to bear with it.

Meanwhile, one can focus on developing Good Content and Link Building at natural pace.

But, there are few things like article writing, bookmarking, forum postings can help you to sustain your QDF position for longer but eventually you have to come back to the deserved position (from SE perspective) and then make way up or down in SERPs depending on your SEO campaign.
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milobouer

15 years ago

i'm in the same situation, i released 3 websites within a week of each other al based around the same niche, the first site I added loads of links and only did a couple for the other 2 sites. site 1 is indexed but is also caught up in the 'google dance' site 2 and 3 are on p1 and have stayed there despite me not link building. V.strange

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

yep same as me. right now my .co.uk site is at position 45.

Originally Posted by milobouer

i'm in the same situation, i released 3 websites within a week of each other al based around the same niche, the first site I added loads of links and only did a couple for the other 2 sites. site 1 is indexed but is also caught up in the 'google dance' site 2 and 3 are on p1 and have stayed there despite me not link building. V.strange

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internetempire

15 years ago

Congrats on the top ranking.

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

Quick update, I was sitting at position 9 in google.co.uk 1st page for about a week.
With some hard work, I'm now ranking 7th place.

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

8th spot today

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

I'm now listed on Page 1 of google.co.uk at position 1 and 2 (indented) for that buying keyword.

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

was at number 1 for about 14 days, the site has now moved to position 9 and 10.
No more number 1 ;( Still no affiliate sales :S

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MIB Mastermind

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Intrepreneur

Google are tweaking at the moment and right as the algorythm stands this moment and time domains are getting a lot of weight.

Try not to create too many backlinks too soon.

Intrepreneur,

When you say don't get 2 many backlinks to soon, what would you say
was a safe number each day?

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Ryan6

15 years ago

Well done Michael. Are you charting results from "the web" or from "pages from the UK"? Either way, imagine if you can do this with multiple pages. You'll eat traffic by the case load.

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

was sitting at position 3 in google.co.uk for a while but now I'm back at number 1 for "for the web" and UK searches. Nearly been 2 months since I started this thread so I would say its taken about a months work to get it to number 1.

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

no no kevin. There was a lot of backlinking involved. Probably 100 in total.

Yes its true that if you have a new site, it might pop to first page but its your job to keep it there. I don't think I'd be number 1 without the backlinks.

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4morereferrals

15 years ago

Great work Michael. Keep rockin.

Hows the sales there at numero Uno?

Originally Posted by michael_nguyen

no no kevin. There was a lot of backlinking involved. Probably 100 in total.

Yes its true that if you have a new site, it might pop to first page but its your job to keep it there. I don't think I'd be number 1 without the backlinks.

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michael_nguyen

15 years ago

thanks for the replies. not to many 5 in total about 35 dollars. I used google keyword tool 4000 exact phrase. stats don't reflect that though. getting about 25per day

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