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11 years ago

Originally Posted by scottmacair

This is so old school....big sigh: #1 Best SEO Link Building Software - Backlink Beast

Do people really think that just moving mass spun spam from their money site to buffer sites is a wise strategy!?!

If you still think that spam is a reliable way of ranking, splash cold water on your face and wake up - things have moved on!

They keep repackaging the same crap and selling it.

SEO Link Monster. Now Backlink Beast. Same junk, new coat of paint.

EDIT: Nevermind. Took a closer look at it. It's software in the mold of SEnuke or Magic Submitter.

Wouldn't bother with it. There are far cheaper solutions that are already established.

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magicsubmittertutorials

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

They keep repackaging the same crap and selling it.

SEO Link Monster. Now Backlink Beast. Same junk, new coat of paint.

EDIT: Nevermind. Took a closer look at it. It's software in the mold of SEnuke or Magic Submitter.

Wouldn't bother with it. There are far cheaper solutions that are already established.

In the mold of MS or SE NUKE????

Maybe a version of them 2 years ago.

Both SE Nuke and MS are MILES ahead of BLB

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MikeFriedman 11 years ago

Originally Posted by magicsubmittertutorials

In the mold of MS or SE NUKE????

Maybe a version of them 2 years ago.

Both SE Nuke and MS are MILES ahead of BLB

And both are not worth owning either.
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- magicsubmittertutorials 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman
  
  And both are not worth owning either.
  
  Im sorry there but I have to disagree ENTIRELY and so would HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of other users.
  
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  Cosmit 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by magicsubmittertutorials
  
  Im sorry there but I have to disagree ENTIRELY and so would HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of other users.
  
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- bluecoyotemedia 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman
  
  And both are not worth owning either.
  
  but you like scrapebox
  
  and magic submitter is ok when you get an affiliate commission suggested on your blog.
  
  point being the tool is lethal in the right hands
  
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jking1

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

They keep repackaging the same crap and selling it.

SEO Link Monster. Now Backlink Beast. Same junk, new coat of paint.

EDIT: Nevermind. Took a closer look at it. It's software in the mold of SEnuke or Magic Submitter.

Wouldn't bother with it. There are far cheaper solutions that are already established.

100% agreed. I have link monster and checked backlink beast today. Both are same things.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by bluecoyotemedia

but you like scrapebox

and magic submitter is ok when you get an affiliate commission suggested on your blog.

point being the tool is lethal in the right hands

Like Scrapebox? No you fool I love Scrapebox. I own two copies. My comment had nothing to do with using tools or not and everything to do with staying away from SEnuke and Magic Submitter.

Yeah, there probably are some affiliate links on that site to Magic. I used to recommend it. You can talk to anyone who has asked me about it though. I don't recommend it anymore. Never got around to removing the affiliate links.

Originally Posted by magicsubmittertutorials

Im sorry there but I have to disagree ENTIRELY and so would HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of other users.

They can disagree all they want. If someone bought the lifetime license already, then fine. MS is ok for them. To pay $67month though right now though would be stupid. You can get Licorne AIO and GSA SER for $100 a piece (one-time fee) and do everything you need to.

It's not that MS is bad, it's that there are tools just as good and/or better at lower price points.

It was the same argument I used to make with people about Magic versus SEnuke. You had to be an idiot to pay $150 a month for SEnuke when you could have MS for $67/month and it did everything SEnuke did plus more.

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Lanx

11 years ago

someone said it's more like rankbuilder

the other crappy link building software.

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smodha

11 years ago

SENuke is an excellent tool. The problem is the cost which is quite prohibitive for newbies and the learning curve. Some people expect it to do all the work.

Like BlueCoyote says. The right tool in the right hands is lethal. There's no point handing an Uzi over to a 7 year old...

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by smodha

SENuke is an excellent tool. The problem is the cost which is quite prohibitive for newbies.

No, SEnuke an overpriced POS. It's success rate is abysmal versus the cost.

If you don't like Licorne AIO, Article Kevo, GSA SER, etc., then you should at least be smart and take UD over SEnuke. Almost a third of the price and works even better.

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smodha

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

No, SEnuke an overpriced POS. It's success rate is abysmal versus the cost.

If you don't like Licorne AIO, Article Kevo, GSA SER, etc., then you should at least be smart and take UD over SEnuke. Almost a third of the price and works even better.

I do agree that it is over-priced. UD is an excellent tool that I promote too (and use).

I have used SENuke in the past but the cost is really steep. I had great results but it's important to stress that there are cheaper alternatives out there.

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SCarter

11 years ago

The problem is none of these tools do Web 2.0 well. The sites that the monthly fee should be going towards is the web 2.0 since those are the sites that need to be updated often.

All of the tools with a monthly fee should be kings of Web 2.0. There are plenty of them out there yet most of these tools hardly have 20-30 Working regularly. I am not taking about platform Web 2.0 Sites but custom coded ones.

People with MS or NUKE will say code them yourself, but why should I have to? Im paying a monthly fee that should be your job to add Web 2.0 Sites. Notice, I am only talking about Web 2.0 Sites here. All the platform sites should be scraped by the user. If I am paying $67+ for a link building software it should at least have 80+ Web 2.0 that are updated every few days.

The best Link-Building tool still has not arrived yet. Wrap the capabilites of Nuke, MS, UD and GSA into one program and keep atleast 80+ Web 2.0's updated Frequently THEN charge $67+ month and you will have a winner.

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SCarter

All of the tools with a monthly fee should be kings of Web 2.0. There are plenty of them out there yet most of these tools hardly have 20-30 Working regularly. I am not taking about platform Web 2.0 Sites but custom coded ones.

People with MS or NUKE will say code them yourself, but why should I have to? Im paying a monthly fee that should be your job to add Web 2.0 Sites. Notice, I am only talking about Web 2.0 Sites here. All the platform sites should be scraped by the user. If I am paying $67+ for a link building software it should at least have 80+ Web 2.0 that are updated every few days..

QUOTED FOR FREAKING TRUTH.

Give this man a cigar. I cannot find ONE GOOD web 2.0 creator for custom sites. Lets face it thats what we really want for tier 1s. I don't want a bunch of crap pointing at money sites. I want Wordpress.com , tumblr even Blogger etc. Scraping platform crap sites can stick to other tiers.

MikeF is generally right on the money except for one thing. Licorne is not there yet. Like it or not MS is still one of the best Web 2.0 site creators but frankly that isn't saying much. Kevo? I dunno its okay but it had like 12 web 2.0s and then all of a sudden 9 without a peep from the developer. Its mostly an article directory submission tool. I hear they are going subscription but couldn't see paying monthly in 2013 for essentially an article directory submitter. three years ago maybe.

I gave up looking for a good Web 2.0 creator to replace what isn't working and I don't think Licorne will be much better in terms of keeping up with site changes. Hopefully their recorder will get better with the next release as they claim it will but I am forced to now roll my own solution.

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

MikeF is generally right on the money except for one thing. Licorne is not there yet. Like it or not MS is still one of the best Web 2.0 site creators but frankly that isn't saying much. Kevo? I dunno its okay but it had like 12 web 2.0s and then all of a sudden 9 without a peep from the developer. Its mostly an article directory submission tool. I hear they are going subscription but couldn't see paying monthly in 2013 for essentially an article directory submitter. three years ago maybe.

I gave up looking for a good Web 2.0 creator to replace what isn't working and I don't think Licorne will be much better in terms of keeping up with site changes. Hopefully their recorder will get better with the next release as they claim it will but I am forced to now roll my own solution.

Oh, I agree that Licorne has its issues. It doesn't post to the most popular 2.0 sites like Tumbler, LiveJournal, etc... However, for a one-time fee, I'm not really going to complain about that.

Something like SEnuke or Magic Submitter charging monthly fees of $65-150/month, well it ticks me off when they fail so often.

Gotta get better with Licorne's recorder and add the popular 2.0 sites. Along with my own scraped list, I'm pretty happy with its results.

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Mike Anthony 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

Gotta get better with Licorne's recorder and add the popular 2.0 sites. Along with my own scraped list, I'm pretty happy with its results.

Hey agreed I am cool with licorne. Will probably pick up another license soon. I have alot of confidence in the developers. I was just saying as a web 2.0 submitter to custom sites like the ones you mentioned it can't quite be compared to MS yet. They claim their recorder will rock in a week or two and when it does I think it will beat MS every way going and coming. Biggest issue with their existing one is it chokes anytime it sees a little javascript. Some sites use that just on submission buttons.

MS has become stagnant. The recorder is dated and should have been upgraded LONG AGO. I like you have abandoned it. I really expected some updates but the only thing I have seen in the last few months is services that cost extra being built into it which yeah I presume is to make extra cash. Meanwhile Alex in forum posts here has pretty much refused to consider integration with other content software (eg spinners like spinchimp). While other software developers are integrating Kontentmachine, WAS and Spinrewriter etc I don't expect to see that from MS anytime soon. (I do use spinrewriter and occassionally Wordai to assist in rewriting not just indiscriminate spinning).

Frankly If SenukeXcr was even half reasonable in their pricing I might give the nod but when I know that every month with them I could have been picking up more domains with PR with the cash its just waste city.
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WeavingThoughts

11 years ago

Do these push buttons softwares still work in 2013?

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PerformanceMan 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WeavingThoughts

Do these push buttons softwares still work in 2013?

They work for what they're advertised to do. That means they'll make 'submissions' - automating your 'backlink building' in the process.

Where they don't work these days is 1) getting the links indexed and 2) keeping them indexed.

The sites they submit to have been taking 'submissions' for years now. Google may index the page at first, but over time they drop many of the links.

These means you're now in a cycle of 'negative link velocity.' For most websites this is a ridiculous situation to be in. Most 'mom and pop' business sites just don't get THAT MANY links. Besides, automatic social bookmarking is against Google's TOS. Read it here. "Low-quality directory or bookmark site links" are not allowed.

These programs also require additional fees for 'captcha solving' which gets very expensive. You have to keep submitting month in and month out. You're like a crack addict. The only ones making out on our these are your 'suppliers' who are charging you monthly.

You're better off looking for high quality links (that means indexed pages that have PR) and stick with those. You need less and leave a smaller footprint.
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Roslyn Agosta

11 years ago

Sorry, but what is UD?

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rjames

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Roslyn Agosta

Sorry, but what is UD?

ultimate demon...

just my opinion...SEnuke is the best tool out there for link building, for what i use it for that is...there is not much value in using SEnuke alone and expecting it to rank your site for you...I hit my money sites with high PR links and use SEnuke to de-optimize my anchor text...works great...but you have to load quality content in it or your success rate will be crap cus your postings will get taken down if they are not any good...lots of other important details that are a factors as well, but I would literally pay $1,000 for it...$147 is mega cheap for what it accomplishes for me...that just me though....do yo thang and have yo opinion

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MikeFriedman

11 years ago

Originally Posted by rjames

ultimate demon...

just my opinion...SEnuke is the best tool out there for link building, for what i use it for that is...there is not much value in using SEnuke alone and expecting it to rank your site for you...I hit my money sites with high PR links and use SEnuke to de-optimize my anchor text...works great...but you have to load quality content in it or your success rate will be crap cus your postings will get taken down if they are not any good...lots of other important details that are a factors as well, but I would literally pay $1,000 for it...$147 is mega cheap for what it accomplishes for me...that just me though....do yo thang and have yo opinion

There are far better options than SENuke and at one-time fees instead of blowing $150/month.

SEnuke would ALMOST be worthwhile if it had a much better success rate. I sat in on two videos recently where so called "expert" users of SEnuke couldn't get higher than a 35% success rate on posting to Web 2.0 sites. That is complete crap for something costing $150/month.

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rjames

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

There are far better options than SENuke and at one-time fees instead of blowing $150/month.

SEnuke would ALMOST be worthwhile if it had a much better success rate. I sat in on two videos recently where so called "expert" users of SEnuke couldn't get higher than a 35% success rate on posting to Web 2.0 sites. That is complete crap for something costing $150/month.

sorry man...i have no problems with it...my submission success rate is 64% for zero manual work...thats great for what I need it for...great for me...maybe not for others...

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by rjames

ultimate demon...

just my opinion...SEnuke is the best tool out there for link building, for what i use it for that is...there is not much value in using SEnuke alone and expecting it to rank your site for you...I hit my money sites with high PR links and use SEnuke to de-optimize my anchor text...works great

Hey to each its own but its my opinion that you are crazy. $150 a month to de-optimize your anchor text? lol. I've been reading some of your posts and you have no idea what you are doing.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Hey to each its own but its my opinion that you are crazy. $150 a month to de-optimize your anchor text? lol. I've been reading some of your posts and you have no idea what you are doing.

Check your message bro!

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Mike Anthony 11 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

Check your message bro!

Send $25 to my Paypal account. I now charge to check my PMs :p
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rjames

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Hey to each its own but its my opinion that you are crazy. $150 a month to de-optimize your anchor text? lol. I've been reading some of your posts and you have no idea what you are doing.

thanks for that...lol.

I know how to rank niche sites fast...not rocket science...its what I do for a living and make a lot of money doing it...thats all im gonna say about that and the last time Ill ever respond to one of your comments...good luck

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Mike Anthony 11 years ago

Originally Posted by rjames

its what I do for a living and make a lot of money doing it..

Yeah thats what I have been reading you say over and over again in multiple posts. Ever hear of the WF inverse bragging ratio income rule? ( or the W FIB RIC for short)? Basically it says that the higher the ratio of claims of success to actual posts the lower the posters actual income.
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online only

11 years ago

Their sales-video looks pretty solid. I bet they get tonloads of newbies to buy this product for $400 ..

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Mike Anthony 11 years ago

Originally Posted by online only

Their sales-video looks pretty solid.

except for the part where a software presentation DOESN'T SHOW THE SOFTWARE AT ALL.

I nominate the Backlink Beast as the 2013 icon (or um mascot) for what is wrong with IM.

Hype that borders on lying
Selling by implying riches will be gained
Testimonials and reviews GALORE motivated by paying out affiliate dollars for them.

When a software seller has almost no details about the features of the software itself on the sales page but has to put an income disclaimer at the bottom of the said page to keep the FTC off their back it says it all.

EDIT ON FAIRNESS - I see now where there is a link to tutorials waaay down at the bottom. Never saw it there before but it is now. Still amazing that I was forced to watch the entire sales video (due to ocntrols being turned off) in hopes of seeing the software in action and can only get at the details if I scroll down and find the support link.
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pjman

11 years ago

From 30 visitors a day to 100. Wow! These guys must be geniuses.

I have to hurry and sign up, the Nigerian prince just emailed I'm his long lost brother and he has 40 million of my inheritance to wire me. I just have to send him my bank info.

This day just keeps getting better.

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Banned 11 years ago

(BS² - IQ) + WF(the area of your mommas basement)=

Gawwwd don't ban me again for that loooool

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Boricua

11 years ago

Originally Posted by scottmacair

This is so old school....big sigh: #1 Best SEO Link Building Software - Backlink Beast

Do people really think that just moving mass spun spam from their money site to buffer sites is a wise strategy!?!

If you still think that spam is a reliable way of ranking, splash cold water on your face and wake up - things have moved on!

Looks good with a 100,000+ optin list. A mediocre 0.5% conversion @ $397 will probably compensate the monthly lost for them. No comments as to the quality, but I am guessing opt-in in the 200,000+ easily

Could be better then paying $100+ per month for SeNukeX..time will tell. Now will those links will actually stick in Google..that's another story, regardless, should give a good boost as part of their process is currently working if they get it done.

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Boricua

Could be better then paying $100+ per month for SeNukeX..time will tell. Now will those links will actually stick in Google..that's another story, regardless, should give a good boost as part of their process is currently working if they get it done.

Won't beat Senukex or anything else for that matter. How would I know?

Here are the training videos

#1 Best SEO Link Building Software - Backlink Beast

now look very closely at this video for Rankbuilder

Rank Builder Review - Honest Rank Builder...

Unless there are just some uncanny coincidences Backlink beast is just another version of rank builder. The icons and interface just altered (maybe soome upgrades but still looks essentially the same

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

A quick Note.

I and others have compared SenuXeCr and Magic submitter to Licorne (I didn't compare to GSA because GSA is not in the same league as either SenukeXcr or MS. Very different kinds of programs). On reflection it is NOT a fair comparison and I withdraw it. Why?

Licorne is in beta and several parts of it are buggy and definitely not polished (standard for betas). Thats the reason it is presently a one off. The developers of Licorne have made it very clear that when it is out of beta they DO intend to charge monthly for it. Further none of us know what that price will be (although If you invest in it now you are suppose to have a lifetime license which for a $100 presently is a serious steal).

So it was unfair of me to compare them. MS is fairly priced as I have stated many times.Shucks I would probably use SenukeX (the recorder does look nifty) if I didn't consider their prices at the gouging level compared to MS which does from what I see everything Senuke can do.

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