Built Amazon Sites The Right Way - Tutorial

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I’ve been getting quite a few emails from people that are trying to building amazon sites to give them some insight on how to do it and how to earn. It’s not easy but in the long run if you enjoy your niche and continue growing you will be pleased and earn $$$ aswell.

Please add anything I might have forgotten and "Gurus" please mention something you think is wrong or we can discuss it at least.

The site which I will be showcase is going to build up to hopefully be an authority-mega site and is in a very competitive niche.

For those just starting out with amazon sites it’s better to just pick a category and get deeper into one of the subcategories.

Niche Selection
Mine is in the pc-electronic niche but covers 16 categories , this is not for anyone that has just started and will probably take over 2 years to see significant traffic growth but the good thing is that I am already at around 500 uniques a day after 8 months of launch.

It would be better for a newbie if for instance you like kitchen appliances instead of building a whole site around anything to do with kitchen appliances to build one on only microwaves, become the best freaking site about microwaves on the internet.

Setting up the site
I have build my site on drupal with the help of my brother which is a programmer. There were a lot of hours put in to make it what it is today and customize it to my preferences.

It would be better to start of with wordpress as theres a lot more information to setup your site just by googling and a lot of tutorials on getting your site customized and seo optimized.

The do’s and donts
Your site should be made up of homepage-category pages –articles and privacy policy –about us pages. Anything more then this is fluff and will drag you down in the serps.

Auto tags and other plugins that autogenerate pages will get you in more trouble than what you think. Other than that it will spread your sites authority (serp weight) and your articles will be harder to rank.

Try to make each page as unique as possible , even category pages as not doing this will trip a duplicate content algorithm and your serps will tank.

Keword Research
Keyword research can be found on a lot of forum posts and is relatively easy. I prefer to just use google keyword tools and check who already ranks in the serps. Then I add variations of the keywords , with best – 2013 –reviews and so on, this will rank both the main keyword with alternatives.

On my site I have mixed up single product reviews , best lists , tutorials and some other things related to my niche to have differentiation in traffic .

I want the long tail the head and any other terms that bring in traffic on each separate category and article.

It is better to target low competition terms that have low traffic and then slowly target higher search terms with tougher competition.

Do not only do single product reviews as these are not ones that earn links from visitors and deteriorate (lose value over time) unless they are something super special.

Content
This is one of the most overlooked things that new affiliates do.
If your content is shit it doesn’t mean you won’t rank , but when people start reading they are going to press the back button or won’t trust you as an authority and you will not earn.

One of google’s metrics to rank is visitor duration and bounce-rate. You will rank for half a day with crap content then disappear for ever.
PEOPLE DO READ REVIEWS and most people that are looking for products to buy have a general idea and understand when someone is just writing reviews to sell.

Don’t be overpromotional pushing them to amazon, try to be honest that this is a high-priced Item , or that this is not for this kind of person, this one is for those looking for something cheap, pros and CONS. (These will actually bring in extra longtail traffic).

Always watch out what competitor sites (aged good sites) are doing and how they offer their content. They are there for some reason and that means they have an understanding of their users and what they want. This can also be a great inspiration on how to make your content outstanding and even better.

I have written content on my niche and I am very picky on what content will be posted to my site. I read and edit (tailor) every piece of content on my site. I hate overpromotional and I also hate badly formatted articles. I want to offer my users value.

I have tried all kinds of writers but those that are worthwhile cost a lot at around $30+ per 800 word articles. Researching before writing is a must and having a person that actually knows a thing about the products should be your number one priority. Google loves longer articles thats why they rank higher in serps. Add value (extra info that’s not available elsewhere).

Internal Linkings
You should link to other articles that are relevant to what you are writing either being a category or a single post that will inform users more on what they are looking for.

Use breadcrumbs to category pages to reinforce relevance to your articles in that category.

One problem I have with my site is relevant sidebar links as I can’t find something that will target other articles in the same category only. Wordpress users can google and find a solution with custom code for that.(Read yukons post for how to silo a site)

Onpage Seo
Don’t go overboard with mentioning your keyword 100 times use it in your H1 and when relevant in the post and sometimes in h2 tags (use lsi keywords aswell)

Offpage Seo
Build relevant profiles on facebook,google+,twitter and use stumbleupon to get traffic rolling till you rank. Always post a new released article whenever you add something new.

Don’t do fiverr and all those 10000 link shit. Don’t hurt your site before you earn.

Launch some videos on youtube make your content videos (these are no follow) but will help get users to view your articles for free.

Launch some slides on slideshare (you can reuse your content in slides).

The cherry on the cake is to launch a contest where users like and share your articles or comment on them .

Promote them through free or paid contest services.
This will help google crawl , index and rank your site faster.
You will also make some money of sales if your clever enough.

Brainstorm ideas not the typical make forum post , guest post SHIT!

Rel=Author
Read about this by searching through google and how to add it to your site.
This will bring you traffic from personalized results when you start getting contacts to add you or circle you on google+.

Placing amazon links
Build your links wisely as there is an algorithm that tanks your serps when you over populate your articles with affiliate links. A wise thing to do is add no more than one amazon link per 100 words as a bare minimum.

My opinion is not to use an amazon plugin. Rather add your own pictures with alt tags , these pictures will rank in google image searches while the amazon plugin won’t. I use mostly small images and hotlink them to the amazon product. I don’t use any buy now or buy from amazon buttons. This doesn’t push users to click and doesn’t remind you of the usual cookie cutter amazon sites.

Another reason for not using a plugin is because it uses javascript , this slows down your site and sometimes will cut the googlebot short of crawling your site easily.

VERY IMPORTANT: No follow all your amazon links but don’t cloak or redirect them
Google is cleverer than what you think .

Well that’s about it from there on its up to YOU!
#amazon #built #sites #tutorial
  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    Good stuff. I do things mostly the same way. It's also good to see another Greek on this forum, especially one who builds Amazon sites. Come to think of it, you may actually be Cypriot and not Greek.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      I am cypriot lol
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      • Profile picture of the author stolf
        Nice post, thanks for sharing.

        May i ask how many clicks to amazon you get daily from 500 visitor?
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        • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
          Originally Posted by stolf View Post

          Nice post, thanks for sharing.

          May i ask how many clicks to amazon you get daily from 500 visitor?
          It varies from 150-400 clicks a day
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          • Profile picture of the author pdrs
            Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

            It varies from 150-400 clicks a day
            that's a pretty damn good click through rate!
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by pdrs View Post

              that's a pretty damn good click through rate!
              I suspect it's closer to 150 most days. Even that can be considered high based on 500 visitors. One would be hard-pressed to convince me that that a site would generate an 80% CTR on any sort of consistent basis, especially when some percentage of the traffic (people finding the site via articles and not review or commercial searches) isn't looking to buy anything.
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              • Profile picture of the author pdrs
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                I suspect it's closer to 150 most days. Even that can be considered high based on 500 visitors. One would be hard-pressed to convince me that that a site would generate an 80% CTR on any sort of consistent basis, especially when some percentage of the traffic (people finding the site via articles and not review or commercial searches) isn't looking to buy anything.
                that's a bit closer to what I was thinking
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                • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
                  46% of those users that click are americans so its not exactly optimal as electronics don't ship to other countries.
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  • Profile picture of the author noobsaibot
    site:hardwarepal.com about 1,230 results and 500 uniques a day.. not very much for such quantity of pages
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by noobsaibot View Post

      site:hardwarepal.com about 1,230 results and 500 uniques a day.. not very much for such quantity of pages
      Google is flawed, even if you click on "repeat the search with the omitted results included" at page 14, then it only continue's to page 16 and then you get pages like this:

      Code:
      hardwarepal(dot)com/misc/drupal.js?g
      Share A description for this result is not available because of this site's robots.txt – learn more
      So probably he has less then 100 pags of actual content, then 500 visitors a day is really not that bad I guess.
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      • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
        1230 pages was pre deletion of tags. Google has 129 pages indexed of 129 pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Since virtually none of the articles on your site rank for the title terms (at least the 15 or so that I checked), I assume most of your traffic is coming from long tails you include in your content or from sources other than search.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      Mostly long-tail and variations of the keywords. Note that my competition is mostly authority sites like tomshardware etc. I do nothing more then simple social sharing - I don't link build. Like I have said its not for everyone competition is fierce in this niche and I am building up 16 categories not only one. Progress will be slow but steady as soon as each category grows in relevance. If it was for one category and I had 100 articles on it for sure I would rank alot higher its a no-brainer. I could of made a url with lets say laptops in it with 120 high quality articles about laptops that would be easier to rank. You are forgeting who I'm going up against and as I stated this is a 2-years minimum project for me thats why I tell people to go on a subcategory of some easier niche that they know about.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

        You are forgeting who I'm going up against
        Nah, not at all. Just sitting here looking at how you are doing things and comparing to my own strategy (always looking to learn/improve). It appears our general strategies are fairly similar since most of your traffic is coming via low-comp long tails. However, instead of specifically targeting them like I do, you are just including them in your articles.
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        • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
          I don't know what you are doing other then single product reviews of what I have seen. My lists will be gaining rankings and will be changed throughout the year , meaning that with alittle bit of editing I have earnings building up. You will be steady in earnings if your not outsourcing BIG TIME. Older reviewed items will fade as newer ones come out and search terms will die out. So you have to be producing some serious content daily and have a wide enough niche to actually go to a 5 figures monthly income from amazon. Im not saying I don't review single products but Im more inclined to have stuff that can be edited and updated and earn long term.
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  • Profile picture of the author jxam69
    When I saw this thread I thought it was going to be another one of those naive noobs regurgitating useless or even harmful information.

    I was wrong.

    I don't agree with everything in OP, but those who are new to building Amazon affiliate sites won't go far wrong following this advice - it has many of the elements that I use successfully.

    Nice job.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I actually recommend people continue to add content (multi-tiered websites) as they build their sites. The idea of writing product reviews is just the simplest starting point for someone new.

    The newbie can barely get "blue widgets for green frogs" to rank. Asking them to try and get "laptop reviews" to rank while earning absolutely nothing while they do that will often lead them to give up since they see no results.

    Our ideas are the same (grab traffic from lower comp long tail terms) but it looks like we just accomplish those goals a bit differently.

    Good luck with the site. I have a few sites in the tech niche that do extraordinarily well.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      Yes exactly everyone does it differently even though the point is the same earn $$. Thanks and all the best to your sites aswell.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Thanks for the tips.

    Can you elaberate on this part
    Use breadcrumbs to category pages to reinforce relevance to your articles in that category.
    How do you use breadcrumbs? Is there a specific plugin you recommend for this.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Thanks for the tips.

      Can you elaberate on this part

      How do you use breadcrumbs? Is there a specific plugin you recommend for this.
      As I have said I use drupal but I code the breadcrumbs manually with html though, search on google you should be able to find something for you content management system .
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  • Profile picture of the author Builder154
    Do any of you guys geotarget your Amazon links so people in different countries get links tailored to the Amazon program in the country they're visiting from? If so how do you do it? I'm especially interested in how this is possible if you mostly use single product links, like where you just have a product name in a sentence and link it directly to that product on Amazon. How can you make that link change depending on what country?

    It seems like not doing geotargeting would be a complete waste of money as you'd lose all international Amazon earnings.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      Originally Posted by Builder154 View Post

      Do any of you guys geotarget your Amazon links so people in different countries get links tailored to the Amazon program in the country they're visiting from? If so how do you do it? I'm especially interested in how this is possible if you mostly use single product links, like where you just have a product name in a sentence and link it directly to that product on Amazon. How can you make that link change depending on what country?

      It seems like not doing geotargeting would be a complete waste of money as you'd lose all international Amazon earnings.
      Geotargeting is possible but quite a hassle. I have something in mind but will have to check it out before recommending it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Craig B
        Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

        Geotargeting is possible but quite a hassle. I have something in mind but will have to check it out before recommending it.
        Yes, geotargeting is a hassle with Amazon, but keep in mind that you're missing out on more than half your clicks. At the very least, check if another country accounts for a large percentage of the traffic. One of my sites had a lot of traffic coming from the UK. Once I began geotargeting both the US and UK, my conversions almost doubled.
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        • Profile picture of the author Builder154
          Originally Posted by Craig B View Post

          Yes, geotargeting is a hassle with Amazon, but keep in mind that you're missing out on more than half your clicks. At the very least, check if another country accounts for a large percentage of the traffic. One of my sites had a lot of traffic coming from the UK. Once I began geotargeting both the US and UK, my conversions almost doubled.
          How did you do the geotargeting? A plugin?
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          • Profile picture of the author Craig B
            Originally Posted by Builder154 View Post

            How did you do the geotargeting? A plugin?
            I created that particular site a few years ago and used rotargeter.com. Since then I've used scripts (which were outsourced) for a couple of other sites where geotargeting was necessary. I've never tried a plugin.
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    Has anyone noticed anything strange going on with their Amazon Reports today? When I click on "Items with no orders" absolutely nothing comes up (there's usually a long list of all the products that people have clicked on). The Product Link Clicks column reports 0 clicks; they all seem to be in other clicks. Never seen this before.

    Anyone else noticed their reports being off today?
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Only thing I noticed is that they were extreme late with the update today.
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  • Profile picture of the author phelen
    in fact, it is not only for Amazon sites, but also for all sites to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    I am registering .US domains these days, webmasters then automatically set it up as geo location US. But obvious you can also do it manually.

    About 80% of my visitors come from the US now, which is pretty good I think.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      Nik0 people are talking about earning more by having something change the amazon links from Amazon US to other Amazon sites to cater for other geolocations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aubin
    If you're using wordpress for your content management then Amazon Affiliate Link Localizer is a free plugin to geotarget your Amazon links. It isn't perfect but it's the best you're going to get for free.
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    • Profile picture of the author Builder154
      Originally Posted by Aubin View Post

      If you're using wordpress for your content management then Amazon Affiliate Link Localizer is a free plugin to geotarget your Amazon links. It isn't perfect but it's the best you're going to get for free.
      I looked at this plugin and it looks really good. But people are saying that it can't work along with a cache plugin. Is that correct?
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      • Profile picture of the author Aubin
        Originally Posted by Builder154 View Post

        I looked at this plugin and it looks really good. But people are saying that it can't work along with a cache plugin. Is that correct?
        As far as I know that is true, yes.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          I doubted quite a bit if I should have a call to action or not. To me it also looks like a lucky shot that they click on the image or not. Some people don't even know the image is clickable and will go back to Google to find a site that sells it when they are convinced by the review. Would be a terrible sales loss indeed.

          For the rest, yeah an affiliate link is an affiliate link no matter if it's in a piece of text or hidden in an image. What OP tries to say is that he doesn't want to make sites that look like a typical Amazon site with screamy buttons and such.

          Personally I am also not to crazy about those star ratings below an image as it screams affiliate site right away, but text links should be good indeed.

          No idea if javascript would slow a site down or be an obstacle for crawlers, never heard that before.
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            I doubted quite a bit if I should have a call to action or not. To me it also looks like a lucky shot that they click on the image or not. Some people don't even know the image is clickable and will go back to Google to find a site that sells it when they are convinced by the review. Would be a terrible sales loss indeed.

            For the rest, yeah an affiliate link is an affiliate link no matter if it's in a piece of text or hidden in an image. What OP tries to say is that he doesn't want to make sites that look like a typical Amazon site with screamy buttons and such.

            Personally I am also not to crazy about those star ratings below an image as it screams affiliate site right away, but text links should be good indeed.

            No idea if javascript would slow a site down or be an obstacle for crawlers, never heard that before.
            It appears that we agree on several things for a change....
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

              It appears that we agree on several things for a change....
              Lol, can't deny facts
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              • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
                Its up to you if you want to use text links and/or image links. I know I will be losing some commision but I dont want to be hit by a filter when having 3 text links to amazon and 1 image link in a 100 word paragraph just to get a sale . My preference is to use image links instead of text links as I want to get the traffic flowing more ,build up authority and get a few social votes and links to the articles , then get my head in to how to convert better or how to earn more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
    I've said it before and will say it again there is more than one way to skin a cat and this is the same with Amazon sites. Amazon Guy and I are on the same page for building authority sites and what he has written is solid information. Like he says this isn't an overnight thing he is building up an asset.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernies
    Excellent information, I just started a batch of 3 new Amazon sites which I hope will be successful. I've already invested about $300 already, hopefully I can see the benefits soon. Anyway, great share, thanks for posting!
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  • Profile picture of the author iSBP
    I have to say that this is good info. I love seeing different points of view. I'm just curious about what type of affiliate links that you put into your reviews. I have personally had some success with call to action text like "click here to purchase on Amazon". I feel that most people who are ready to buy something online just need a little nudge or confirmation with a review so that they feel what they are buying is worthwhile. How do you word your affiliate links?
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      I don't word mine , I use to push them towards amazon but I'm not into making a quick buck now. I only use images as links to amazon.
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      • Profile picture of the author iSBP
        Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

        I don't word mine , I use to push them towards amazon but I'm not into making a quick buck now. I only use images as links to amazon.
        Without a caption or button associated with the image isn't it kind of deceptive to users? When they click it they don't know they are being redirected to Amazon. I'm not criticizing or anything I'm just curious.
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        • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
          The whole internet is made up of links , I think then the whole internet would be deceptive. The user clicks the image because he is interested in the product it takes him there to get more detail.
          I am not shortening my links neither am I sending them somewhere unrelated
          Read up on the amazon link policy
          https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...nk_353005802_8
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          • Profile picture of the author iSBP
            Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

            The whole internet is made up of links , I think then the whole internet would be deceptive. The user clicks the image because he is interested in the product it takes him there to get more detail.
            I am not shortening my links neither am I sending them somewhere unrelated
            Read up on the amazon link policy
            https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...nk_353005802_8
            Like I said, I'm just curious about your strategy and am not accusing anything. You've obviously had some success and I was wondering how your link strategy has worked for you. Sites need to provide a good user experience and the affiliate link to either Amazon or your optin page is very important. If providing the image as a link is successful then I would like to test it out for myself. I just haven't thought of it working for a high conversion rate that's all.
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            • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
              I have had a similar discussion with someone.

              Yes the conversion rate will be lower.

              I have tested using links in the paragraph, on the paragraphs title under the paragraph with something like "37 customer reviews" "check this on amazon" and so on but what would you prefer to have 100 people enter your site with a higher convertion rate (with a risk of disappearing in serps, being to pushy to returning visitors , cookie cutter style)

              or rank higher in the serps get 1000 people with a lower conversion rate and build an authority site not an amazon site . That is why I have added a paragraph in the tutorial about affiliate links vs text , I doubt anyone wants to put in long hours and then get there site to tank in the serps.
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              • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
                Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

                I have had a similar discussion with someone.

                Yes the conversion rate will be lower.

                I have tested using links in the paragraph, on the paragraphs title under the paragraph with something like "37 customer reviews" "check this on amazon" and so on but what would you prefer to have 100 people enter your site with a higher convertion rate (with a risk of disappearing in serps, being to pushy to returning visitors , cookie cutter style)

                or rank higher in the serps get 1000 people with a lower conversion rate and build an authority site not an amazon site . That is why I have added a paragraph in the tutorial about affiliate links vs text , I doubt anyone wants to put in long hours and then get there site to tank in the serps.
                Thats why I said the RIGHT WAY ....Do you prefer never getting traffic or wasting your time and money ?
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                • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                  Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

                  Thats why I said the RIGHT WAY ....Do you prefer never getting traffic or wasting your time and money ?
                  My sites get TONS of traffic. There is no "right way". Different? Yes. Heck, I don't even call my own strategy "the right way".

                  That said, I would argue (as would many others) that having ZERO calls to action anywhere on the site is not remotely close to the "right way".
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                  • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
                    Sorry wolfmii but you don't get what I am trying to do with the certain site. I have stated before that having call to actions , adding image links and text links will help you convert but as I have also said you don't want to disappear for all your keywords because of abusing affiliate links here's a link from Nichepursuits guy How to Get a Google Penalty Using Affiliate Links (And How to Recover) | Niche Pursuits on the google affiliate link penalty. Hes a clever guy and has just started with amazon.

                    Have you actually thought why squidoo's traffic is down ? Why they are blocking over promotional lenses ?

                    They have become a massive affiliate site nothing more nothing less.

                    I really hate that people would just rinse and repeat pumping amazon links all over the place think they are earning good "stable" money then burn down losing all there time and money in the process.

                    Theres a thin line between enough and to much.


                    Other then auto-algorithms there are also manual reviews doubt most of yours sites would pass them.
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                    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                      Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

                      Sorry wolfmii but you don't get what I am trying to do with the certain site.
                      Actually, I do.

                      you don't want to disappear for all your keywords because of abusing affiliate links
                      Adding a call to action at the end of an article isn't abusing affiliate links. Adding 5? Yes.

                      Hes a clever guy and has just started with amazon.
                      Just started with Amazon?

                      Have you actually thought why squidoo's traffic is down ? Why they are blocking over promotional lenses ?
                      Have you also noticed their HARD push for people to use Amazon Modules?

                      I really hate that people would just rinse and repeat pumping amazon links all over the place think they are earning good "stable" money then burn down losing all there time and money in the process.
                      Agree here. Except, a single call to action link isn't what you are talking about.

                      doubt most of yours sites would pass them.
                      You don't know anything about my money sites. I've been doing this for close to 15 years. I know a little bit about what I'm doing. And for the record, many of my sites HAVE passed manual checks. Some are even cleared by the AdWords team for PPC.


                      You seem very defensive. Why is that?

                      Again, to each his own. I don't care what you do with your site. However, telling people that "your way" is the "right way" opens you up to criticism since A) there really isn't a "right way" and B) some of what you are saying is simply not accurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Putting links in text isn't going to tank your site any more than image links are and adding a link that says "Click here for customer reviews" is hardly being pushy.

    By NOT having some call to action at the end of your articles, you are leaving SIGNIFICANT money on the table because someone who has stayed with you through the end of the article clearly likes/appreciates/trusts the content.

    What do you expect your visitor to do when he is finished reading an article? His eyes are a the bottom of the article, not the top or on the image.

    To each his own I suppose but just wanted to clear up the myth that an in-text affiliate link is going to tank a page. You might also want to revisit what you said in the last section about Amazon links, javascript, and rankings. Much of it doesn't make sense either.

    It is better to target low competition terms that have low traffic and then slowly target higher search terms with tougher competition.
    However, I DO agree with the comment above as it is something I've been teaching on this forum for years:
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
    My findings have been that contextual text links convert the best. I use text and image links and depending on the site some Amazon related Plugins.

    Most people don't know what an Amazon Affiliate site is and will click through the link but maybe the more computer savvy visitors to Amazon Guys site might have a bigger understanding. I can understand him not wanting to lose repeat customers probably something he needs to test.

    No idea if javascript would slow a site down or be an obstacle for crawlers, never heard that before. - I hadn't either but gave the op the benefit of the doubt, I do use a plugin that uses javascript it doesn't appear to slow down the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    That's cool. It's just when you make a post titled "Built Amazon Sites The Right Way - Tutorial", the stuff in the post has to be factually accurate. We're just pointing some things out that aren't necessarily accurate nor based on any sort of testing.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Sorry to ruin it but I AM the right way.

    Sike. Going back to work.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
      Wolfmii : You seem very defensive. Why is that?

      This was to help out people that are trying to build an online income through amazon, I am not defensive at all because I am not selling anything to other warriorforum members.

      Wolfmii : You don't know anything about my money sites. I've been doing this for close to 15 years. I know a little bit about what I'm doing. And for the record, many of my sites HAVE passed manual checks. Some are even cleared by the AdWords team for PPC.

      Close to 15 years and you sell Amazon sites with no content for $69 ? And the links redirect through a strange plugin on wordpress ? and you have a money back guarantee so you get content for $0 investment. I don't think that proves that you know anything.

      How do you know it passed a manual review btw?

      Wolfmii : Again, to each his own. I don't care what you do with your site. However, telling people that "your way" is the "right way" opens you up to criticism since A) there really isn't a "right way" and B) some of what you are saying is simply not accurate.

      There isn't a right way, 99% of what you read online is utter bullshit its up to your judgement to test and see . I at least state why I use one method or another and have said "Gurus" can open a discussion no problem. What makes you a "Guru" or anyone else one is subjective.


      Wolfmii :Have you also noticed their HARD push for people to use Amazon Modules?

      They do push amazon to use it but not excessively .I had 100 lenses on squidoo and if you haven't learned the platform it has filters that block having X amount of affiliate links on an X amount of content. I think that they have a better understanding with 3 millions lenses and there visitor analytics than what you and me do. They are punishing everything that is over promotional for a certain reason there traffic has dropped for excessive affiliate and outgoing links.

      So for not quoting my bad
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post


        This was to help out people that are trying to build an online income through amazon, I am not defensive at all
        And I applaud you for that. However, making statements like "javascript will slow your site down" and "a call to action text link will tank your rankings", and such is bad info. Like I said earlier, if you are going to couch your tutorial as "the right way", make sure you are giving out valid info.

        Close to 15 years and you sell Amazon sites with no content for $69 ?
        Absolutely. The 2 hours it takes to research products, install the site, configure the social media accounts, and answer questions is what drives the $69 price tag as I value my time. That doesn't even include the value of the premium theme ($29), the cost of my plugin (another $29), or the cost of my guide (another $19).

        Only a desperate person spends two hours of time, provides $80 in software/product, and then charges $29. You seem to have a very skewed vision of worth.

        And the links redirect through a strange plugin on wordpress ? and you have a money back guarantee so you get content for $0 investment. I don't think that proves that you know anything.
        Redirect? Strange? Not sure what you are even talking about here. I buy back very few websites and the ones I do buy back are typically hideous (that's why they didn't convert) so no, I don't get content for free. Sorry. Try again.

        How do you know it passed a manual review btw?
        Because I've spoken with AdWords employees directly and asked them to look the site over.


        What makes you a "Guru" or anyone else one is subjective.
        There isn't a single person on this forum who has ever heard me refer to myself as a "guru" because I don't consider myself one.

        They do push amazon to use it but not excessively .I had 100 lenses on squidoo and if you haven't learned the platform it has filters that block having X amount of affiliate links on an X amount of content. I think that they have a better understanding with 3 millions lenses and there visitor analytics than what you and me do. They are punishing everything that is over promotional for a certain reason there traffic has dropped for excessive affiliate and outgoing links.
        I've published hundreds of lenses across multiple accounts. I've received 4 heads ups when they did their sweep so, yeah, I DO understand Squidoo.

        I'm not criticizing your site and your method. What I AM pointing out is that some info you are giving is roundly recognized as incorrect by most established marketers. Yet, you are couching it as "the right way".
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        • Profile picture of the author webby0031
          Good Advice and very helpful amazon guy, some good points about getting the facts straight from wolfmmiii, shame he cant do it without being a total douche
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      • Profile picture of the author Guru SEO
        Squidoo is down because of all the make beleive seo experts keep posting crappy lenses with no content and a trillion links. I am sorry to say, but someone could create any page with good content in the pc hardware category on a squidoo lens and blow any of your pages out of the water.




        Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

        Wolfmii : You seem very defensive. Why is that?

        This was to help out people that are trying to build an online income through amazon, I am not defensive at all because I am not selling anything to other warriorforum members.

        Wolfmii : You don't know anything about my money sites. I've been doing this for close to 15 years. I know a little bit about what I'm doing. And for the record, many of my sites HAVE passed manual checks. Some are even cleared by the AdWords team for PPC.

        Close to 15 years and you sell Amazon sites with no content for $69 ? And the links redirect through a strange plugin on wordpress ? and you have a money back guarantee so you get content for $0 investment. I don't think that proves that you know anything.

        How do you know it passed a manual review btw?

        Wolfmii : Again, to each his own. I don't care what you do with your site. However, telling people that "your way" is the "right way" opens you up to criticism since A) there really isn't a "right way" and B) some of what you are saying is simply not accurate.

        There isn't a right way, 99% of what you read online is utter bullshit its up to your judgement to test and see . I at least state why I use one method or another and have said "Gurus" can open a discussion no problem. What makes you a "Guru" or anyone else one is subjective.


        Wolfmii :Have you also noticed their HARD push for people to use Amazon Modules?

        They do push amazon to use it but not excessively .I had 100 lenses on squidoo and if you haven't learned the platform it has filters that block having X amount of affiliate links on an X amount of content. I think that they have a better understanding with 3 millions lenses and there visitor analytics than what you and me do. They are punishing everything that is over promotional for a certain reason there traffic has dropped for excessive affiliate and outgoing links.

        So for not quoting my bad
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        • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
          Yes its easier with squidoo , I have pc hardware lenses there so its a win win ... have double listings LOL. The only difference is that I left squidoo for a reason NO CONTROL.
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          • Profile picture of the author trokiano
            Hi,
            ich have one question:
            Are u trying to rank for the exakt Produktname like:
            Hamilton Beach 56221 Smoothie Smart Blender
            or only longtail keywords like:
            kenwood smoothie maker
            or both

            Thanks for ur answer
            Simon
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            • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
              Well that all depends on how much keyword research you are willing to do , or how much traction your articles will get in the serps (content wise and link wise).
              If your going for something that has >100 searches a month (single product review) I would mix the Hamilton Beach(I guess this is the brand) 56221 (Product Number ) Smoothie Smart Blender (Type of Blender) with review as the person looking for the product name only isnt always a buyer, he might be looking for a picture,general info and 100 other things, but the one looking for a review is in the middle of the buying stage - which level of the buying stage all depends , and if your content is good enough he will convert . Having the Review on the end wont matter that much as it will still rank in the serps for the keyword without the review.

              If you have just started prefer to do good keyword research , start making content on Brand+Product+Type+Review then go for Top or Best +Brand+Type+Reviews slowly go higher and higher on the ladder till you get to Type+Review.

              (btw all depends on niche so this is kind of made up as I am not sure what works with yours)

              In plain english that would be first target :

              1. Hamilton Beach 56221 Smoothie Smart Blender Review (single product)
              2. Hamilton Beach Smoothie Smart Blender Reviews (different products from same brand and brand line)
              3. Best Hamilton Beacher Blender Reviews (getting deeper to the point of hamilton blenders-all lines)
              4. Hamilton Beacher Blender Reviews
              5. Blender Reviews

              Btw as you slowly build 5+ product reviews you can make the #2 option kind of like a summarized version pointing them to each single product review.

              This will give your site relevance and help rank the other articles in the process.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
    I'll say again I like Amazon Guys first post and it is a safe way of setting up a site. He didn't have to share his method but.... I agree with wolfmii [though I find him a tad aggressive and self publicizing for my tastes] regarding the use of affiliate links.

    If you read Spencer's blog post on why he got a penalty from Google he had around a hundred affiliate links on one page, sure this is not going to go down well with Google but half a dozen affiliate links in a 800-900 word review in my opinion is not going to tank your site.
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