Would Links from 0 Page Rank Sites Benefit a Site

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I read a couple of articles on different sites saying that links from 0 PR sites could do more harm than good to a site's ranking. Is that true??
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyberjoe
    Any site will have backlinks from PR 0 sites. Just imagine if you had only PR 5+ backlinks... Would that look natural in the eyes of search engines?
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  • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
    That PR0 page may be getting 20 unique visitors a day which are highly targeted to your niche. If that's the case, yes, it's pretty beneficial.
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  • Profile picture of the author bryguy
    A large percentage of links (particularly during a short time frame) coming from PR 0 sites can definitely cause harm. No doubt about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneWZ
    If it's not penalized by google, surely it will give some link juice. Better if it's related to your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
    Can't see why a PR0 link from a related site would not be beneficial...
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    • Profile picture of the author joma12
      Any link from a clean site is useful and helps in the rankings but they must be clean from blackhat,spam, link farms etc. also watch the themes often they have footer-links to banned sites. in this case it is doing more harm than good
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  • Profile picture of the author Tiiberiuss
    PR0 alone does not mean a bad thing.

    What IS bad about PR0 site is that you don't know why it has PR0.

    If it has PR0 because it's new OR it has empty link profile .... cool! Link from this site won't harm you (it will not do you much good but it will not harm you).

    If it is PR0 because Google doesn't like and it links to you ... you might get into trouble. (if you get more of such links)

    My point is that first thing Google does after they find out that site is a link-farm or something other they don't like they lower it's PageRank.

    That's why you should do your best to link only from PR1+ sites. Avoid PR0s and N/As.



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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    Each backlink is a PLUS! You can't only have PR7,8 backlinks... It is normal to have 50-60% PR0 backlinks, about 20% PR1-PR3 and 10-20% PR4+...
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    • Profile picture of the author Tiiberiuss
      Originally Posted by patco View Post

      Each backlink is a PLUS! You can't only have PR7,8 backlinks... It is normal to have 50-60% PR0 backlinks, about 20% PR1-PR3 and 10-20% PR4+...
      Where did you get percentage like that from?

      You know there is a difference between PR0 page and PR0 site.

      If you'd have 60% of PR0 PAGE links coming from all kinds of sites with PR3, PR4 PR28 you would be most likely Ok.

      However, if you'd have 60% of links from PR0 DOMAINS (aka sites) you would most likely get penalty for links coming from untrusted sources.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Here's a PR0 site sitting on my hosting.

    Domain Authority
    38/100
    Page Authority
    48/100
    Linking Root Domains
    438
    Total Link
    3,092
    Facebook Shares
    8567
    Facebook Likes
    73545
    Tweets
    112432
    Google +1
    201

    Nothing wrong with a link from that page if you ask me. The point is, there are many other factors to consider other than PR when it comes to where you get your links from. Don't get too focused on any of them. It leads to insanity.
    Looking for niche related links would be the best advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
    It also depends how relevant the page/site is.

    There's a HUGE difference between a PR0 link that's ranking in the top 250 for your target keyword and a PR0 in an unrelated niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilikepie
    That would mean every new webpage or site shouldn't link to you?

    Sounds very logical.
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  • Profile picture of the author MonitorScout
    Cyberjoe - Any site will have backlinks from PR 0 sites. Just imagine if you had only PR 5+ backlinks... Would that look natural in the eyes of search engines?
    I completely agree with cyberjoe, you should try to get variety types of links. Along with creating high PR back links you should get links from PR0, N/A, PR1 and no-follow so that sear engine can't catch the pattern and it looks normal
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by eeeasyas12345 View Post

    I read a couple of articles on different sites saying that links from 0 PR sites could do more harm than good to a site's ranking. Is that true??
    There's no such thing as a PR0 site, PR is for pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tiiberiuss
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      There's no such thing as a PR0 site, PR is for pages.
      OMG yukon you shouldn't have said that! Now this going to get REALLY confusing ...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      There's no such thing as a PR0 site, PR is for pages.
      LMAO I think you knew what he meant. But funny and true.

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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        LMAO I think you knew what he meant. But funny and true.
        I wasn't trolling, a lot of people seriously believe PR is sitewide.

        Look at all the fiverr gigs, or all the forum threads (domain list) here on WF that claim high PR links because the Index page has a high PR, where in reality they'll end up with a PRn/a - PR0 link buried deep in the site.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          I wasn't trolling, a lot of people seriously believe PR is sitewide.

          Look at all the fiverr gigs, or all the forum threads (domain list) here on WF that claim high PR links because the Index page has a high PR, where in reality they'll end up with a PRn/a - PR0 link buried deep in the site.
          Twas only a joke my friend And Ive spent endless hours explaining exactly what you said to many a fool.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tiiberiuss
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          I wasn't trolling, a lot of people seriously believe PR is sitewide.

          Look at all the fiverr gigs, or all the forum threads (domain list) here on WF that claim high PR links because the Index page has a high PR, where in reality they'll end up with a PRn/a - PR0 link buried deep in the site.
          I'm afraid they really can't see the difference. Especially dudes on Fiverr.
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    In moderation links from PR0 pages are just fine and dandy. But, if you have a low authority domain and race out and build 100,000 profile or blog comment links overnight using link automation software, then you do run the risk of getting slapped.

    I have a theory that Google uses the Project Honeypot spam database as an input to it's ranking and penalty algorithm. Just a theory. If you want to see a list of the top spam domains, have a look here: https://www.projecthoneypot.org/comm..._urls.php?dt=7
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  • Profile picture of the author badut jenaka
    IMO any links even from PR0 page will benefit your site. You only have to make sure you link with the right site.
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  • Profile picture of the author ocim1
    I'm thinking to do some link exchanges with PR0 or PR1 sites which have the related contents as my site. And my link will be in their link page and theirs will be in my link page.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidaviniker
    Originally Posted by eeeasyas12345 View Post

    I read a couple of articles on different sites saying that links from 0 PR sites could do more harm than good to a site's ranking. Is that true??
    Positioning on Google results pages depends on relevance and authority. Relevance depends on the keywords and synonyms on the page and underlying coding. It also depends on the anchor (linking text) - so even a PR0 link might add to the relevance.
    We only see a PR in integers but Google uses many decimal places. So PR0 might be PR0.99999. Furthermore, Google updates the PR values for us no more frequently than every 3 months. Next update may reveal that the PR0 link has become PR2. The voting power of a link to your website is the PR of the linking page divided by the number of out-going links on that page.
    It is generally assumed that a link from a related webpage carries more weight than one from an unrelated page - but evidence for this is difficult to find.
    Hope this helps

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    David
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  • Profile picture of the author surajramnani
    Yes it does benefit especially because it will look more normal!
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