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What still works after penguin 2.0?

by seamy82
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Hi All,

I've just heard in certain circles that blog commenting does not provide a boost to search engine rankings anymore? Can anyone shed some light on this? Also, what still works following this update? What backlinking methods are still valid?

Cheers in advance,
Seamy
#penguin #works
  • Profile picture of the author online only
    Contextual links from niche relevant content
    Resource links
    Blogroll links from somewhat relevant sources
    High PR private network
    Links from donations/testimonials
    Guest blogging

    etc... All the basic things that worked in 2004, still work now. People tend to over complicate things, go with the automated tools, crappy directories, blog comments etc... This is not a long-term strategy.

    When I build links, I always think it's 2020 and Google has become yber-mega-giga-smart and it's almost impossible to RANK new sites. That's why I'm picking my links very carefully so I could survive penguin 9.0 as well

    Maybe I'm too paranoia, but that's just me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
      Originally Posted by online only View Post


      etc... All the basic things that worked in 2004, still work now. People tend to over complicate things, go with the automated tools, crappy directories, blog comments etc... This is not a long-term strategy.

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      Exactly this.

      There was a brief period (2006-2012) when spam performed better than white hat links.

      That era has died.

      Now it's time to kick it old school and start building links like it's 1999.
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    • Profile picture of the author bryguy
      That's a solid way to go about in my book too. Unless you are purposely going for crash and burn, smash and grab, short term success, I think it is not paranoid, but rather smart.

      Originally Posted by online only View Post

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      When I build links, I always think it's 2020 and Google has become yber-mega-giga-smart and it's almost impossible to RANK new sites. That's why I'm picking my links very carefully so I could survive penguin 9.0 as well

      Maybe I'm too paranoia, but that's just me.
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  • Profile picture of the author mandos123
    High PR links still work. No doubt about it. Blog comments and other such crap - no so well
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    It's been about 12 hours since the update started rolling out. No one can tell you what "works" because no one has had an opportunity to fully digest the data.

    Google itself has put up a spam notification request so it can adjust the update.



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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Contextual links from niche relevant content
      Resource links
      Blogroll links from somewhat relevant sources
      High PR private network
      Links from donations/testimonials
      Guest blogging
      None of this is helpful at all because it fails to consider the evaluation of the link source.

      For instance, guest blogging on a spammed, blackhat website that is selling links and distributing child porn while infecting your computer with a virus probably isn't a place where you want a backlink.

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      • Profile picture of the author rjames
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        None of this is helpful at all because it fails to consider the evaluation of the link source.

        For instance, guest blogging on a spammed, blackhat website that is selling links and distributing child porn while infecting your computer with a virus probably isn't a place where you want a backlink.

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        evaluating the link source should go without saying anyway...
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      • Profile picture of the author online only
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        None of this is helpful at all because it fails to consider the evaluation of the link source.

        For instance, guest blogging on a spammed, blackhat website that is selling links and distributing child porn while infecting your computer with a virus probably isn't a place where you want a backlink.

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        Well sometimes you just have to use common sense.
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      • Profile picture of the author danparks
        Originally Posted by online only View Post

        Contextual links from niche relevant content
        Resource links
        Blogroll links from somewhat relevant sources
        High PR private network
        Links from donations/testimonials
        Guest blogging
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        None of this is helpful at all because it fails to consider the evaluation of the link source.

        For instance, guest blogging on a spammed, blackhat website that is selling links and distributing child porn while infecting your computer with a virus probably isn't a place where you want a backlink.
        Actually, all of his suggestions are pretty sound techniques. He didn't have to add "but not from child porn sites" to each suggestion. That's pretty much implied. It should be obvious to anyone doing SEO that you don't want to go after backlinks from gambling/porn/etc sites. A person shouldn't have to mention that with every post.
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  • Profile picture of the author rjames
    I've never once used blog commenting as a means to boost ranking, so Im no expert, but if I had to make a logical guess, its not that effective...
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  • Profile picture of the author heintje
    blog comments on relevant blogs might still help a little, but don't use automated blog comments, these will get you a penalty
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  • Profile picture of the author chandan_dutta
    From my experience I have found this - (After checking lot of sites)

    What Works -

    1. Links from related and good content - Web2.0, Blog networks
    2. Social signal is very important
    3. Google is giving more priority to authority sites. I can see lot of authority sites ranking without any links at all.

    What is not working -

    1. Blog comments. I have seen drop on pages for which have links from blog comments.
    2. If you do tiered links, make sure you take extra care and use lot of LSI keywords. It still works if we do correctly.

    Obviously, there are lot of exception too. Here I am sharing whatever I have found so far. If we build good site, I don't think there is anything to worry about.
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  • Profile picture of the author bradudan
    i have used only articles unique 500 keywords + focused on user on real private networks posted by admin( this is not guest posting !!!!)

    I have build real social signals on those articles and have no problems with Penguin 2.0

    Do it the same!!
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by bradudan View Post

      i have used only articles unique 500 keywords + focused on user on real private networks posted by admin( this is not guest posting !!!!)

      I have build real social signals on those articles and have no problems with Penguin 2.0

      Do it the same!!
      Exactly, that combo is enough and also works without the social signals so no idea why people have so many issue's. Oh well I know why cause most people are still not prepared to spend money to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    The same thing that has always worked - common sense.

    Stop trying to manipulate the search engines with your BS.
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    • Profile picture of the author 808glass
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      The same thing that has always worked - common sense.

      Stop trying to manipulate the search engines with your BS.
      I agree with John here, we here at LinkFool have from the beginning implemented only white hat techniques and thats what should always be done.

      Google created links as a determining factor of where you rank, how you get those links is by people visiting your site and finding the information helpful. If you have a website about Airplanes do you think a link from a site about Dog food is going to help or that it's going to look natural? No, think naturally everyone and stay positive, its not the first time Google has released an update and it won't be the last
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  • Profile picture of the author kilobytestechnologies
    i totally agree with you , blog comments and directory submissions are totally useless (except some wise directories)
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  • Profile picture of the author stevejhon1
    The Quality Of Backlinks From Content Marketing (Article Submission, Web 2.0, Guest Blog) Are Still Helpful To Get The Desired Ranking For Your Keywords After Penguin 2.0 Update.
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  • Profile picture of the author ppscslv
    Originally Posted by seamy82 View Post

    Hi All,

    I've just heard in certain circles that blog commenting does not provide a boost to search engine rankings anymore? Can anyone shed some light on this? Also, what still works following this update? What backlinking methods are still valid?

    Cheers in advance,
    Seamy
    In my vision (based on years of experience) only social networks (blogging networks), are working! If you can perform this work manually, then you'll never had to be worried!
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