If you only had $100/month to spend on SEO or PPC what would you use it for?

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If you only had $100/month to spend on SEO or PPC what would you use it for?

My question is what is more valuable if you have a limited budget. I could use $100 to get advertising on Facebook or Adwords or Microsof Ads Center.

Or I could invest $67 on Unique Article Wizard (UAW) and when I do my daily blog post I could write a good spun article and set it to a drip feed over the next month or year.

My question is what is a better plan, for the long run?

Thanks guys
Supplementtalk
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    I would find an easy link building method and hire and train a foreign freelancer to do it for me for $3/hour.
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    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
      Curtis2001,
      thanks for the reply? Unfortunetly I have done this many times and have had bad experience with the quality of work and the honesty of the work.

      a month ago I actually hired someone with over 5,000 hours logged in Odesk with a 4.9 rating (basically perfect) and he was a backlinker. I thought for sure that it would work with his crudentials. Turns out that he was just building profile backlinks and that was his only skill set. Profiles are the weakest backlinks out there today.

      I have also hired "the best SEO service" on the WF and that didn't work either. I am at the conclusion to do the work myself.

      Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author normahl
    My question is what is a better plan, for the long run?
    Learn the stuff by yourself and think about outsourcing in 2 years
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    • Profile picture of the author netmatrix
      My first question would be... How much free time do you have available?
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      • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
        If you have to get something done properly, you got to do it your self!
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        • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
          Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

          If you have to get something done properly, you got to do it your self!
          In general, and in my IM experience, I agree with you 100%
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        • Profile picture of the author sarged2
          Originally Posted by larryboy03 View Post

          If you have to get something done properly, you got to do it your self!
          Wrong. There are still guys on WF who can do a proper service for just $100 / month. Just ask around and you'll find. And no you don't need to spend $900 / month. And I also don't recommend doing it by yourself, it appears to be too easy to mess up with the shit.
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      • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
        Originally Posted by netmatrix View Post

        My first question would be... How much free time do you have available?
        I work online about 2-3 hours per day. Thanks for the reply
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    I would buy Ahrefs account (to analyze competitor backlinks, to do some broken link building etc...)
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
    I'd save another $900 every month so I could build an unstoppable link magnet brand.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
      Originally Posted by Backlinko View Post

      I'd save another $900 every month so I could build an unstoppable link magnet brand.
      Agree.

      Also, I'd stay away from UAW.
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      • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
        Originally Posted by Backlinko View Post

        I'd save another $900 every month so I could build an unstoppable link magnet brand.
        Originally Posted by Paul Gram View Post

        Agree.

        Also, I'd stay away from UAW.
        What do you mean by link magnet brand, can you elaborate?

        Why would you stay away from UAW? It seems that all my research shows that if used CORRECTLY it is the only SEO tool of its kind that has lasted and worked through all of the Google animal updates.
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        • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
          Originally Posted by SupplementTalk View Post

          What do you mean by link magnet brand, can you elaborate?

          Why would you stay away from UAW? It seems that all my research shows that if used CORRECTLY it is the only SEO tool of its kind that has lasted and worked through all of the Google animal updates.
          As in building a site that you can leverage for links. In other words, an awesome site. To get there you do need to drop some coin. $100 isn't going to cut it.

          UAW and other mass link spam is a complete waste of time IMHO. The tools that work through animal updates are a) a brain and b) balls.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by Backlinko View Post

            As in building a site that you can leverage for links. In other words, an awesome site. To get there you do need to drop some coin. $100 isn't going to cut it.

            UAW and other mass link spam is a complete waste of time IMHO. The tools that work through animal updates are a) a brain and b) balls.
            How does 1k/month build an awesome site?

            It's not the money that makes an awesome site at all, it's only about the person behind it and how he spends it.

            In fact you don't need a single dollar to build an awesome site (besides $10 for the domain registration).
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            • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              How does 1k/month build an awesome site?

              It's not the money that makes an awesome site at all, it's only about the person behind it and how he spends it.

              In fact you don't need a single dollar to build an awesome site (besides $10 for the domain registration).
              True, I agree. I have ranked sites with less than $100 and in less than a month. This of course was before Penguin. I really have not found out a great SEO strategy post Penguin. Do you have one?
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by SupplementTalk View Post

                True, I agree. I have ranked sites with less than $100 and in less than a month. This of course was before Penguin. I really have not found out a great SEO strategy post Penguin. Do you have one?
                I rank my own sites solely based on high PR blog posts from my private network and nothing else. The sites didn't budge an inch during the update, instead the rankings increased a tiny bit as there are not much IM'ers in my niche and the ones that are there were already outranked by me

                The type of keywords I focus on are like this:

                - best [product]
                - [product] reviews
                - [brand] [product] reviews

                All not too competitive and often still with plenty of exact searches to make a nice income per site ($100-$300/month range, maybe more or less in a while).

                The actual sites that I build have somewhere between 20-30 pages and are all tailored around the same product group, for example: lawnmowers.

                That way you create great relevance between the pages/posts and Google seems to like that.

                So in fact a real simple strategy that can be scaled up hugely, the not so simple part is having a large enough private blog network obvious. The nr.1 reason why people that work with small budgets should outsource SEO instead of starting to mess with crappy public blog networks or softwares that get them penalized.
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                • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                  I rank my own sites solely based on high PR blog posts from my private network and nothing else. The sites didn't budge an inch during the update, instead the rankings increased a tiny bit as there are not much IM'ers in my niche and the ones that are there were already outranked by me

                  The type of keywords I focus on are like this:

                  - best [product]
                  - [product] reviews
                  - [brand] [product] reviews

                  All not too competitive and often still with plenty of exact searches to make a nice income per site ($100-$300/month range, maybe more or less in a while).

                  The actual sites that I build have somewhere between 20-30 pages and are all tailored around the same product group, for example: lawnmowers.

                  That way you create great relevance between the pages/posts and Google seems to like that.

                  So in fact a real simple strategy that can be scaled up hugely, the not so simple part is having a large enough private blog network obvious. The nr.1 reason why people that work with small budgets should outsource SEO instead of starting to mess with crappy public blog networks or softwares that get them penalized.
                  awesome reply, so which one of the three services in your signature do you recommend to me?
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                  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                    Originally Posted by SupplementTalk View Post

                    awesome reply, so which one of the three services in your signature do you recommend to me?
                    If you are looking for an ongoing service then this one would suit you best:

                    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...100-month.html

                    Simply cause there we take care that you get links from unique domains each month, with the single packages that is harder to accomplish and with the mixed link packages kind of impossible.

                    I just read your last reply to Slin and wanted to say that if this is for your existing site that you tried many packages on then it is most probably a waste of money as you might deal with several penalties already and the service is nothing close to a recovery service.

                    In fact it works best on brand new sites or sites with a clean link profile.
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                    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
                      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                      If you are looking for an ongoing service then this one would suit you best:

                      http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...100-month.html

                      Simply cause there we take care that you get links from unique domains each month, with the single packages that is harder to accomplish and with the mixed link packages kind of impossible.

                      I just read your last reply to Slin and wanted to say that if this is for your existing site that you tried many packages on then it is most probably a waste of money as you might deal with several penalties already and the service is nothing close to a recovery service.

                      In fact it works best on brand new sites or sites with a clean link profile.
                      cool thanks for the suggestion. honestly I am a little nervous purchasing a $100 month seo package. I just got done with one and it didnt do anything for my site.
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                      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                        Originally Posted by SupplementTalk View Post

                        cool thanks for the suggestion. honestly I am a little nervous purchasing a $100 month seo package. I just got done with one and it didnt do anything for my site.
                        You should start with getting rid of that exact anchor text in your signature links. And yeah if the domain is already penalized by others then a service won't do much for you indeed.

                        Sometimes it's best to just start over.
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                        • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
                          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                          You should start with getting rid of that exact anchor text in your signature links. And yeah if the domain is already penalized by others then a service won't do much for you indeed.

                          Sometimes it's best to just start over.
                          What do you mean get rid of my honest signature link? So you are saying backlinks from a reputable forum are bad. I have had these links actually show up for my sites as backlinks while ranking page 1.

                          Are you saying it doesnt work anymore, what is the reason?
                          Thanks
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              • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
                I am not an affiliate of this guy, but he has a lot out to say about seo and post penguin as well. He takes on high end clients, so you know he is doing what he says. Source Wave : SEO Blog Grab something to drink and spend some time there.


                Originally Posted by SupplementTalk View Post

                I really have not found out a great SEO strategy post Penguin. Do you have one?
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                • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                  Originally Posted by Jeannie Crabtree View Post

                  I am not an affiliate of this guy, but he has a lot out to say about seo and post penguin as well. He takes on high end clients, so you know he is doing what he says. Source Wave : SEO Blog Grab something to drink and spend some time there.
                  How do you know he is taking on high end clients? Just saying anyone can claim stuff like that since they don't have to prove anything. How does a person prove they're the person that actually ranked a page?

                  Just looking at that link/page screams spammy shenanigans. Looks like a teenager built the site/content. LMAO at all the money claims.

                  Don't be fooled by that Problogger logo in the header, I'm sure Darren would sell his approval of just about anything related to blogging/SEO/IM/etc... either that or he has no idea his logo is being used. I'm pretty sure Darren sells guest blogging spots on his site, which would be the As seen on Problogger, hoopla. In other words, anyone can be seen on Probogger If they pay the money.
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                  • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
                    Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                    How do you know he is taking on high end clients? Just saying anyone can claim stuff like that since they don't have to prove anything. How does a person prove they're the person that actually ranked a page?

                    Just looking at that link/page screams spammy shenanigans. Looks like a teenager built the site/content. LMAO at all the money claims.

                    Don't be fooled by that Problogger logo in the header, I'm sure Darren would sell his approval of just about anything related to blogging/SEO/IM/etc... either that or he has no idea his logo is being used. I'm pretty sure Darren sells guest blogging spots on his site, which would be the As seen on Problogger, hoopla. In other words, anyone can be seen on Probogger If they pay the money.
                    loll, good call, I agree
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            • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              How does 1k/month build an awesome site?

              It's not the money that makes an awesome site at all, it's only about the person behind it and how he spends it.

              In fact you don't need a single dollar to build an awesome site (besides $10 for the domain registration).
              The 1k is for the foundation of a legitimate, awesome site (not niche site Adsense/Amazon stuff...a real business):

              1k is for custom design, custom site speed hacks, infographics and diagrams, assistants for outreach...

              I think we may have different approaches to SEO. That's cool and I wish you the best of luck.

              I prefer just to invest in my site so it stands out from all the junk out there. It's served me well so far
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  • Profile picture of the author YellowGreenMedia
    I would spend it on PPC like 7search and a good CPA offer and build it out from there...
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    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
      Originally Posted by YellowGreenMedia View Post

      I would spend it on PPC like 7search and a good CPA offer and build it out from there...
      thanks for your response. It was the most to the point and direct so far.

      I am not a newbie, been doing SEO, outsourcing, site building etc... for 6 years now. Some people act like they know everthing and just because you dont do what they do, you are newb or stupid...lol

      thx again.
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  • Profile picture of the author normahl
    IMO people don't get that outsourcing thing. It doesn't make sense to outsource tasks when you just dived into the internet marketing world. I learned everything by my own working my ass off some years before I thought about outsourcing. Learned a shit ton and wouldnt be there where Im at now withouth learning the stuff.
    I mean sure go ahead but Id highly recommend to know EVERYTHING and how the stuff works.

    ON TOPIC: I'd spend the 100$ buying quality links on niche relevant sites
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    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
      Originally Posted by normahl View Post

      IMO people don't get that outsourcing thing. It doesn't make sense to outsource tasks when you just dived into the internet marketing world. I learned everything by my own working my ass off some years before I thought about outsourcing. Learned a shit ton and wouldnt be there where Im at now withouth learning the stuff.
      I mean sure go ahead but Id highly recommend to know EVERYTHING and how the stuff works.

      ON TOPIC: I'd spend the 100$ buying quality links on niche relevant sites
      FYI
      im not a newb to the game. I have done most of my work the last 6 years myself. I understand that you should not outsource work to others that you don't know how to do yourself. How can you expect to get results this way.

      My problem and the reason for the question is, like many, all of my sites fell hard last April when Penguin hit. I had a nursing adsense site making $300 per month, an Amazon Toy site making $1000 per month, and a fitness site making $500 per month (all organic results). I do come with experience.

      I am sort of starting over again since Google is so hard to please these days, you know what I mean?

      Thanks for getting back on topic and suggesting spending the $100 on quality links.
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      Originally Posted by normahl View Post

      I'd spend the 100$ buying quality links on niche relevant sites
      Exactly this, it's easy & long term.
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  • Profile picture of the author GyuMan82
    Given your budget you would have to go with SEO.

    Purchasing things like content, links, software etc. will help you more as $100 in something like Adwords is nothing (maybe 50-100 clicks?) if you're trying to make money in niches that are worth anything.

    This also assumes that you are spending the 2-3 hrs a day doing other forms of promotion or building your site etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
      Originally Posted by GyuMan82 View Post

      Given your budget you would have to go with SEO.

      Purchasing things like content, links, software etc. will help you more as $100 in something like Adwords is nothing (maybe 50-100 clicks?) if you're trying to make money in niches that are worth anything.

      This also assumes that you are spending the 2-3 hrs a day doing other forms of promotion or building your site etc.
      Thanks man and I am leaning a little towards SEO as well!
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    • Profile picture of the author biznomad
      Originally Posted by GyuMan82 View Post

      Given your budget you would have to go with SEO.

      Purchasing things like content, links, software etc. will help you more as $100 in something like Adwords is nothing (maybe 50-100 clicks?) if you're trying to make money in niches that are worth anything.
      What do you think about competition keywords? Some of my keywords are $6-12 CPC but bidding on competitor's names is wide open at $0.10. You wouldn't get the full 1000 clicks but does the dynamic make it more worth it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Originally Posted by SupplementTalk View Post

    If you only had $100/month to spend on SEO or PPC what would you use it for?

    My question is what is more valuable if you have a limited budget. I could use $100 to get advertising on Facebook or Adwords or Microsof Ads Center.

    Or I could invest $67 on Unique Article Wizard (UAW) and when I do my daily blog post I could write a good spun article and set it to a drip feed over the next month or year.

    My question is what is a better plan, for the long run?

    Thanks guys
    Supplementtalk
    With $100 a month, I would forget about SEO because, your only going to get some really poor services and inevitably another slap from Google the next time an update is released.
    I probably wouldn't do CPC either unless you are a serious expert in the area as the budget seems too low also.

    I would however outsource to some good article writers and get between 10-20 decent articles to post each month. Targeting some long tail, 0 comp keywords. And probably do the little bit of linking needed to rank them myself. Manually and WH of course.
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    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      With $100 a month, I would forget about SEO because, your only going to get some really poor services and inevitably another slap from Google the next time an update is released.
      I probably wouldn't do CPC either unless you are a serious expert in the area as the budget seems too low also.

      I would however outsource to some good article writers and get between 10-20 decent articles to post each month. Targeting some long tail, 0 comp keywords. And probably do the little bit of linking needed to rank them myself. Manually and WH of course.
      thanks for the sound advice. Question, the articles you talk about, are these posts on my website and then do a little manual linking to get them ranked? Or are these for article directory submits? For me, content is not a problem as I am a pretty good content writer and don't mind it either. Its the tedious link building that I am not a crazy fan of.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by SupplementTalk View Post

        thanks for the sound advice. Question, the articles you talk about, are these posts on my website and then do a little manual linking to get them ranked? Or are these for article directory submits? For me, content is not a problem as I am a pretty good content writer and don't mind it either. Its the tedious link building that I am not a crazy fan of.
        If article writings not a problem, then you've killed my advice

        And if you ever see me advise someone to pursue Article Directory submits. Shoot me in the face
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  • Profile picture of the author technics
    Depending on what you think your conversion rate is and how much $$ you would make per conversion maybe think about other media buys such as email marketing.
    It might make sense financially, let's say if you can find a blog in your niche with with an email list of 5-20k that is willing to sell an email or two. Of course this will only work if the list is very targeted and in the same/similar niche as you.
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    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
      Originally Posted by technics View Post

      Depending on what you think your conversion rate is and how much $$ you would make per conversion maybe think about other media buys such as email marketing.
      It might make sense financially, let's say if you can find a blog in your niche with with an email list of 5-20k that is willing to sell an email or two. Of course this will only work if the list is very targeted and in the same/similar niche as you.
      thanks man, unique advice! I will consider this as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author inetguru_987
    Buy 20 articles with it. Get your site ranking so you can spend more.
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    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
      Originally Posted by Art of Marketing View Post

      I would gladly Spend $100 a month on activities that sent me free unslappable traffic.

      Social media
      Videos
      Free Viral PDFs
      Info Graphics

      All pointing to a listbuilding page.

      -Art
      Can you PM me some of the services/sites that you use? thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ppscslv
    Originally Posted by SupplementTalk View Post

    If you only had $100/month to spend on SEO or PPC what would you use it for?

    My question is what is more valuable if you have a limited budget. I could use $100 to get advertising on Facebook or Adwords or Microsof Ads Center.

    Or I could invest $67 on Unique Article Wizard (UAW) and when I do my daily blog post I could write a good spun article and set it to a drip feed over the next month or year.

    My question is what is a better plan, for the long run?

    Thanks guys
    Supplementtalk
    For a long term I would use it for SEO, but for a short term I'd use it for PPC (Adwords).
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    You know what niko has a good point. If you have a smaller budget its much better to outsource, then to do it on your own.

    For 100 a month you'll get some decent Seo stuff going. It'll save you some headaches.

    I outsource most of my Seo for about 200 a month and it's worth it, 100 a month can get you some good stuff. Just shop around
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    • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
      Originally Posted by Slin View Post

      You know what niko has a good point. If you have a smaller budget its much better to outsource, then to do it on your own.

      For 100 a month you'll get some decent Seo stuff going. It'll save you some headaches.

      I outsource most of my Seo for about 200 a month and it's worth it, 100 a month can get you some good stuff. Just shop around
      I understand what you are saying and I have purchased many SEO campaigns and packages througout the years. The problem is you never know what you are getting and most packages end up being crap (overpaid auto backlinking tools that "experts use for backlinks that I can do myself)
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by SupplementTalk View Post

    If you only had $100/month to spend on SEO or PPC what would you use it for?
    1. Web hosting - $8 per month for decent shared hosting with cpanel
    2. Purchase 10 expired domains with OK backlink profiles, but no PR - $30 per month
    3. Outsource content research and article writing - $50 per month
    4. Purchase two experimental Fiverr gigs for $10
    5. Invest the remaining $2 in a lottery ticket or really cheap Adwords keywords

    Build 10 blogs or web sites with different html footprints, add articles from step 3.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    PPC, STart in the lower bracket providers like MSN bing, 7search, first.

    For $100 I would use that and send traffic to a nice converting squeeze page.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    If i were starting out i will invest in domain, hosting, aweber, buy quality articles, get videos and keep the change if there is any..

    Most of my marketing efforts will come manually through article marketing, forums, press release, social media e.t.c.
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  • Profile picture of the author amenwolf
    A Month supply of Coffee for the late nights.

    Nothing beats doing it manually and on your own, and learning it the hard way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansons
    I would invest this money in content development.
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  • i would suggest you to start with PPC ads and you yourself can start building quality links till your site is ranked once your site is on top you can stop ppc and rely on seo..
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  • Profile picture of the author clarkfaint
    It really depends on what you want. You could spend that on Facebook ads and try to get some targeted traffic to your site and build a list that way.

    Or if SEO is the objective, you could buy some high PR links or even start building your own network of PR sites. It's actually more affordable than one might think.

    If you're spending $100 a month and putting in 2 to 3 hours a day you're in a stronger position than a lot of people here though. What are your goals for the project you're working on?
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  • Profile picture of the author Make Money Ninja
    If i had just $100 a month, i would keep it and work my ass off building content for longtails.

    Create content that solves peoples problems in mass.
    Verify with authorship.
    Do some networking, build relationships, guest post (Free).

    This is hard work, but it will get you a much greater ROI than spending $100 a month on links.
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  • Profile picture of the author image0611
    There is a new service by Jonathan Leger for creating articles.

    He is calling it Article Builder and is built on a .net address.

    He is asking for $297 per year which fits your budgets.

    It looks like an automated, PLR article builder to me. I had high interest in it but does not fit to my current plan.

    Saw you mentioning UAW and thought about this service that may be useful to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author wellm97
    I will do guest blogging that will not only help me getting high quality backlinks but also help me getting traffic from famous blogs that already have a huge audience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dentist
    Forget about Google PPC. With $100/m you won't go anywhere. Facebook PPC is cheaper still you have to know how to manage your campaign to get the best results.
    With that budget I'd go with SEO and almost only on-page. Go to iWriter, find and test good article writers. With that budget you can get almost one article/day. Schedule the articles with that duration on your website. Target long-tail keywords: For each article different keywords. Properly tag every article. Continue that and you will see traffic increase over time plus you create an internet property that is worth something.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankRumbauskas
    When a prospective client says they have $100/month or $250/month or whatever I tell them to pass on SEO/PPC for now and go to as many free Meetup networking groups as they can.

    Or find people who can send them business - when an event babysitter told me she had a $250/month budget, I told her to forget SEO and call every corporate event planner and wedding planner in town to tell them what she does.
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    If you want fast result, PPC...
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  • Profile picture of the author carnal
    If I had $100 extra to spend monthly on SEO, I would have purchased Facebook ad spaces. Personally I feel, it is much better to have paid advertisement on Facebook than on Adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author SupplementTalk
    FYI to all,

    I really appreciate all who contributed to my decision on this forum question and I thought I would share with you what I have decided to do.

    I am going with SEO, since this is what I have been successful with in the past. I am going to use UAW (Unique Article Wizard) Social Monkey, and Social Adr. I have setup a lot of projects and will share my results in a few weeks. Stay tuned...
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  • Profile picture of the author TZ
    Screw PPC all together - sucker's game. Spend that $100 dollars buying 2-3 really well written articles and post them on a Wordpress blog. Best investment you could make because those articles will make you a trickle for a LONG time.

    We spend $2500 a month on good writers now - worth every penny cause I can do other things, well they the sites growing.
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