Link Pyramids Still work - After Penguin 2.0

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Hello Everyone,

I been reading alot up on Matthew Woodward and his tutorial on Tier Link Building (AKA Link Pyramids), and I wanted to see what others thought as I normally do everything "White Hat" but I own a network of sites for Adsense and Affiliates and that can get pretty expensive.

So I wanted to get a bit into Black Hat and Link Pyramids with my Network, and I watched his videos, and I just want to see if 3 - 4 Tier Link Building pyramids still are effective after Penguin 2.0 came out in the past 2 weeks.

I know I had a site that was flagged for buying blog rolls link after Penguin 2.0 that got deindexed and got messages in WebMaster Tools, so I wanted to see what other people if any are expericing after Penguin 2.0 in the line of Link Pyramids or if they are still working pretty good even after this update.
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  • Profile picture of the author lonfore
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    LPs are working. No problem at all. In fact they will work forever. But you might fail with LPs as traditional LPs are nowadays not working as before. You need to know how to juice up LPs.
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    • Profile picture of the author jxam69
      Originally Posted by lonfore View Post

      LPs are working. No problem at all. In fact they will work forever.
      Matt Cutts has hinted they're going after Link Pyramids this summer.

      In any case, your claim that they'll work forever is ludicrous - you have no evidence to support it, it's just your opinion, and in my opinion you're also wrong.

      My main SEO prediction at the start of this year was that by the end of 2013 this method will be hit hard by Google, because it's another form of spam messing up their link graph and pushing what they consider to be undeserving sites up their SERPs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
    I don't see how Link Pyramids can be hit. The only thing they can go after is web 2.0's which serve one purpose (to promote another site). Or, the same with any sort of site. If a site's primary purpose is to promote another site, then it isn't worthy of being in Google's index.
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    • Profile picture of the author jxam69
      Originally Posted by Icematikx View Post

      I don't see how Link Pyramids can be hit. The only thing they can go after is web 2.0's which serve one purpose (to promote another site). Or, the same with any sort of site. If a site's primary purpose is to promote another site, then it isn't worthy of being in Google's index.
      You might be surprised what a bunch of math geniuses can do with big data.

      Take a look at this as an example of advanced link analysis: CheiRank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    • Profile picture of the author river99
      Originally Posted by Icematikx View Post

      I don't see how Link Pyramids can be hit. The only thing they can go after is web 2.0's which serve one purpose (to promote another site). Or, the same with any sort of site. If a site's primary purpose is to promote another site, then it isn't worthy of being in Google's index.
      Yes i agree with you that LP can't be hit. If that happen then almost all website that has backlinks from high PR page will be hit too and that will hurt google authority itself.

      Google can only hit tier 1 as a filter site if they get spammy backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPM70
    I don't see how Link Pyramids can be hit.
    Famous last words.
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  • Profile picture of the author fiehatran
    I always build web 2.0 backlinks is tier 1, then build social network and wiki blast to tier 2, and forum profile and comment to tier 3 . They work!
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  • Profile picture of the author Theeban
    You may have to modify the methods and promote your blogs on those web 2.0, send social signals make more traffic to your blogs on web 2.0 - You should have unique content on those sites (do not link each and every post/page to your site, think in a natural way and do it) and promote it - It is easy to get top ranks for web 2.0 for any keywords due to their high authority.
    That will send your site more referral traffic, at the same time you will get a nice link back.

    I had noticed a guy in my niche, he has EMD domain, a blogger blog (He got PR5 for that blogger blog, he has only 3-5 articles, but all are really worth and well written, I guess he promoted it) and from that PR5+ page he got a nice backlink to his site. At the same time, he tried this with some other blog platforms as well. Before penguin he was #3, now stable and strong # 2 (sometimes jumping to #1)

    So, from my view, if you use those resources as those should be used in the way to help real human users, you don't have to worry about anything. That is what Google always emphasize.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by Theeban View Post

      You may have to modify the methods and promote your blogs on those web 2.0, send social signals make more traffic to your blogs on web 2.0 - You should have unique content on those sites (do not link each and every post/page to your site, think in a natural way and do it) and promote it - It is easy to get top ranks for web 2.0 for any keywords due to their high authority.
      That will send your site more referral traffic, at the same time you will get a nice link back.

      I had noticed a guy in my niche, he has EMD domain, a blogger blog (He got PR5 for that blogger blog, he has only 3-5 articles, but all are really worth and well written, I guess he promoted it) and from that PR5+ page he got a nice backlink to his site. At the same time, he tried this with some other blog platforms as well. Before penguin he was #3, now stable and strong # 2 (sometimes jumping to #1)

      So, from my view, if you use those resources as those should be used in the way to help real human users, you don't have to worry about anything. That is what Google always emphasize.
      True. If the Web 2.0 actually contains good content, who can complain about landing there or a link from there?
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