Has Matt Cutts started offering payday loans??

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Someone's got a sense of humour - currently position 4, page 1 for Payday Loans in the UK...
#cutts #loans #matt #offering #payday #started
  • Profile picture of the author TolyZ
    I was just about to post that lol
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    That page has 'excellent content.' That's why it's ranking
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    • Profile picture of the author ecopac
      Ha, I managed to grab a screenshot of the blog before it redirected, absolutely none of it makes sense, it's unbelievable isn't it - that was only made yesterday and it's on page 1 for a super competitive keyword
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimerson Farveez
    It is a subdomain of blog.co.uk, Blog.co.uk has good authority. It is a blog platform with good PR. That is the reason, this site is ranked along with it has good content
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    • Profile picture of the author ecopac
      Originally Posted by Jimerson Farveez View Post

      It is a subdomain of blog.co.uk, Blog.co.uk has good authority. It is a blog platform with good PR. That is the reason, this site is ranked along with it has good content
      That doesn't really make any sense, the content on the actual web page is rubbish, it redirects to another site.
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      Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

      Can't see the attached image.
      just click on it...
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Here ya go.

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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      payday loans are crap searches...how many times in this forum must
      people keep repeating the same things? It's like you people have
      so much time on your hands....time on your hands in inversely proportional
      to brain matter....

      Stupid people doing stupid searches get stupid results...and
      google tells you that...over and over and over and over...

      Now, are you people really that stupid?

      It's all related....just look at the plethora of fail threads....

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author ecopac
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        payday loans are crap searches...how many times in this forum must
        people keep repeating the same things? It's like you people have
        so much time on your hands....time on your hands in inversely proportional
        to brain matter....

        Stupid people doing stupid searches get stupid results...and
        google tells you that...over and over and over and over...

        Now, are you people really that stupid?

        It's all related....just look at the plethora of fail threads....

        Paul
        Whoa, who pissed on your cornflakes this morning?
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      • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        payday loans are crap searches...how many times in this forum must
        people keep repeating the same things? It's like you people have
        so much time on your hands....time on your hands in inversely proportional
        to brain matter....

        Stupid people doing stupid searches get stupid results...and
        google tells you that...over and over and over and over...

        Now, are you people really that stupid?

        It's all related....just look at the plethora of fail threads....

        Paul
        You are a crap poster and all of your posts are FAIL. The point is, failure, that this motivated SEO didn't listen to Cutts' BS and went out and proved that he could 'crack the Google code' like the Rubik's Cube...

        Good for him I say!
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        • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
          Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

          went out and proved that he could 'crack the Google code' like the Rubik's Cube...

          Good for him I say!
          There's a problem with Google's algorithm that needs to be fixed. The sites rank so well, in this scenario, because Google has not had time to analyze the backlinks, on-page content, javascript redirect and so forth.

          In Google's eyes, Mr Cutts PayDay Loans has just received 200,000 backlinks - meaning that the site must clearly be popular and deserves to be shown for popularity reasons.

          He has not cracked Google's code. Anybody can do what he has just done, providing they have $50 (for Fiverr), or Scrapebox / XRumer.
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          • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
            Originally Posted by Icematikx View Post

            There's a problem with Google's algorithm that needs to be fixed. The sites rank so well, in this scenario, because Google has not had time to analyze the backlinks, on-page content, javascript redirect and so forth.

            In Google's eyes, Mr Cutts PayDay Loans has just received 200,000 backlinks - meaning that the site must clearly be popular and deserves to be shown for popularity reasons.

            He has not cracked Google's code. Anybody can do what he has just done, providing they have $50 (for Fiverr), or Scrapebox / XRumer.
            Let's say he's making $32 or above for an email submit and he gets 20 of them today? Even if he's gone tomorrow that does not change the fact he earned over $500 today. I'm not saying this approach is right for everyone, but for someone who can do it, why wouldn't they? He didn't even pay for hosting or a domain.

            Long term success can be derived from constant short term success.
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            • Profile picture of the author TolyZ
              Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

              Let's say he's making $32 or above for an email submit and he gets 20 of them today? Even if he's gone tomorrow that does not change the fact he earned over $500 today. I'm not saying this approach is right for everyone, but for someone who can do it, why wouldn't they? He didn't even pay for hosting or a domain.

              Long term success can be derived from constant short term success.
              The minimum ppl make in payday loans per day is over $1k, that's why everyone and their mom trying to get into it.
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              • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
                Originally Posted by TolyZ View Post

                The minimum ppl make in payday loans per day is over $1k, that's why everyone and their mom trying to get into it.
                I wasn't using exact numbers but that was my point. If what you say is true they would need to have 1 successful work day each week to earn what the average person who works their ass off at a full time job earns.

                That's plenty of motivation. Threats from Cutts won't stop them.

                The only people who are stopped by him are the ones who identify themselves as White Hats. His videos don't have any impact on Black Hatters. The same goes for 'email warnings,' 'link devaluations,' and even de-indexing.

                Penguin 2.0 hurt White Hats mainly.
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                • Profile picture of the author online only
                  Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post


                  Penguin 2.0 hurt White Hats mainly.
                  I'm doing 90% of white hat, if contacting other webmasters is "whitehat" for you... My rankings increased big time after penguin.
                  I'm wondering where do you get that information ?
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                  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
                    Originally Posted by online only View Post

                    I'm doing 90% of white hat, if contacting other webmasters is "whitehat" for you... My rankings increased big time after penguin.
                    I'm wondering where do you get that information ?
                    90% White Hat. That says it all. How do we know if it's the 10% of Black Hat you're doing that's causing your rankings or the 90% White Hat?

                    Dude, 'hats' are nothing but a belief system. Saying you believe in a 'hat system' is on par with religious or political beliefs IMHO.

                    I could care less about any of this b.s. paradigm. People are free to believe in whatever they want. Observation of the SERPs quickly reveals the facts.
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by TolyZ View Post

                The minimum ppl make in payday loans per day is over $1k, that's why everyone and their mom trying to get into it.
                Yep, everyone's guaranteed a min. of $1k per day, guaranteed! :rolleyes:
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                • Profile picture of the author TolyZ
                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  Yep, everyone's guaranteed a min. of $1k per day, guaranteed! :rolleyes:
                  Not guaranteed, considering you rank in top5 and have 2% conversion.
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                  • Profile picture of the author palms
                    One of the backlinks to that site (which has since been removed)...

                    paydayloans-messagetocutts.blog.co.uk/
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                    • Profile picture of the author ecopac
                      Originally Posted by palms View Post

                      One of the backlinks to that site (which has since been removed)...

                      paydayloans-messagetocutts.blog.co.uk/
                      Funny how that's been taken down, but the 2 spam sites above it are still there?

                      Seems to have been replaced with masspaydayloans.blog.co.uk/ now
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            • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              When I blasted a site of mine with 100k links from Fiverr in a few days my site instantly tanked so saying anyone can do that is very far from the truth.

              Perhaps you should read some stories from people at Xrumer forums like the one from GodOverYou and you'll see how many people fail with it.
              It's simple.

              Create a new domain. Blast it before Google gets chance to even crawl it. Make sure anchor diversity is spot on. Drip-feed the links over a 24 or 48-hour period. Keep the on-page content over optimized for your main keyword (5-6%) and sprinkle in tons of related keywords and phrases.

              The key is, you're looking to rank for a 24-hour period before Google even has a chance to go through their spam checks and determine your site a bunch of crap. You're abusing the Query Freshness aspect of the algorithm by sending tons of links to an over-optimized page.
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by Icematikx View Post

                It's simple.

                Create a new domain. Blast it before Google gets chance to even crawl it. Make sure anchor diversity is spot on. Drip-feed the links over a 24 or 48-hour period. Keep the on-page content over optimized for your main keyword (5-6%) and sprinkle in tons of related keywords and phrases.

                The key is, you're looking to rank for a 24-hour period before Google even has a chance to go through their spam checks and determine your site a bunch of crap. You're abusing the Query Freshness aspect of the algorithm by sending tons of links to an over-optimized page.
                It's funny you mention QF, I milk that every day on my own evergreen sites.
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                • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  It's funny you mention QF, I milk that every day on my own evergreen sites.
                  I still have to get round to implementing your strategy. I may try it on my next Amazon site.
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        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        payday loans are crap searches...how many times in this forum must
        people keep repeating the same things? It's like you people have
        so much time on your hands....time on your hands in inversely proportional
        to brain matter....

        Stupid people doing stupid searches get stupid results...and
        google tells you that...over and over and over and over...

        Now, are you people really that stupid?

        It's all related....just look at the plethora of fail threads....

        Paul
        How many times will you write a post like this in response to the people you're referring to? It's just as futile as their posts, so you actually look like a hypocrite.
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      • Profile picture of the author TolyZ
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        payday loans are crap searches...how many times in this forum must
        people keep repeating the same things? It's like you people have
        so much time on your hands....time on your hands in inversely proportional
        to brain matter....

        Stupid people doing stupid searches get stupid results...and
        google tells you that...over and over and over and over...

        Now, are you people really that stupid?

        It's all related....just look at the plethora of fail threads....

        Paul
        The whole POINT is that Cutts just bragged about in his videos how they released an algorithm that ONLY targets payday loans. Another thing, there are articles calling out BH saying that payday loans niche is dead for them and they'll never rank in there...
        It was created SIMPLY to prove a point.
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        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        payday loans are crap searches...how many times in this forum must
        people keep repeating the same things? It's like you people have
        so much time on your hands....time on your hands in inversely proportional
        to brain matter....

        Stupid people doing stupid searches get stupid results...and
        google tells you that...over and over and over and over...

        Now, are you people really that stupid?

        It's all related....just look at the plethora of fail threads....

        Paul
        Blaahblaahblaah... hey I'm here, look at me... yaadayaadayaada... I'm so much better than you...
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  • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
    It's global companies who I feel sorry for. Businesses like Wonga have earned an outstanding reputation for payday loans, yet their nowhere to be seen in Google's SERPs. You'd think that Google would have assigned an employee to manually assign the top rankings. As a customer of Google, I'd much prefer to see Wonga #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author Icematikx
    I made $2k in a week a while back from spamming one of my sites, when a celebrity s*x tape came out. The thing is, it's a short-term business and it sucks. I much prefer building sites now, that I can leave for the majority of the week, knowing that it's a passive income. Building churn-and-burn sites is a pain-in-the-arse and is almost as bad as working at McDonalds.
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      • Profile picture of the author GeekSlash
        the top position is worth $188,000 a week in affiliate commission (figures from a former number 1) so its no wander so many go after it
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