New to SEO? Who to trust? Hard to say but when you see this grab the children and run!!!

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Its 2013. Its not the 1990s or even 2010. Its true you cannot depend on post count , thanks or how long someone has been at a forum to determine who to trust when they post. I can't give you a list of bullet points. You have to decide from reading but

like I said - its 2013.

The one thing anyone who knows anything about SEO knows is that last year Google made it very possible to hurt your site with spammy links. One of those kinds of spammy links is forum signatures.

Its amazing but there are still quite a few people who show you that they do not know what they are doing by running around in forums (this one included) dropping posts with a whole list of keywords in there signature trying to rank. Simple equation

People stuffing and spamming keywords in their signature = people who do that do not have a clue about SEO in 2013

and as far as knowing anything should just as well be posting in the off topic forum because whatever they are saying - its has nothing to do with good SEO.

Good SEO and keyword in forum sigs - red alert - no know SEO

There I said it
#hard #run #seo #trust
  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

    Its 2013. Its not the 1990s or even 2010. Its true you cannot depend on post count , thanks or how long someone has been at a forum to determine who to trust when they post. I can't give you a list of bullet points. You have to decide from reading but

    like I said - its 2013.

    The one thing anyone who knows anything about SEO knows is that last year Google made it very possible to hurt your site with spammy links. One of those kinds of spammy links is forum signatures.

    Its amazing but there are still quite a few people who show you that they do not know what they are doing by running around in forums (this one included) dropping posts with a whole list of keywords in there signature trying to rank. Simple equation

    People stuffing and spamming keywords in their signature = people who do that do not have a clue about SEO in 2013

    and as far as knowing anything should just as well be posting in the off topic forum because whatever they are saying - its has nothing to do with good SEO.

    Good SEO and keyword in forum sigs - red alert - no know SEO

    There I said it
    What's worse is when you see "SEO Experts" keyword stuffing their signatures. That's just hard to see...
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  • Profile picture of the author TLondon
    I'm not sure, but I believe Google just ignores backlinks from forums altogether. It's not bad, it's not good -- it's just nothing.

    The other reason is just direct traffic and making people in the forum aware of the existence of the website. Like said above, if SEO experts are posting on SEO forums, then it makes sense for them to have their link in the signature not for the purpose of ranking, but to get new clients from that particular forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Bradley
      I've seen loads of threads with so called SEO experts stuffing and spamming keywords in their signature.

      Maybe they haven't caught up with the latest SEO trends.Kind of ironic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by TLondon View Post

      I'm not sure, but I believe Google just ignores backlinks from forums altogether. It's not bad, it's not good -- it's just nothing.
      Links can hurt your site now. By putting a number of posts and then stuffing your sig with keywords you are potentially harming the site

      The other reason is just direct traffic and making people in the forum aware of the existence of the website. Like said above, if SEO experts are posting on SEO forums, then it makes sense for them to have their link in the signature not for the purpose of ranking, but to get new clients from that particular forum.
      Sorry thats not a good answer. If you want to get traffic from this site you do far better by putting the offer in your sig not a bunch of keywords. NO one is talking about not using your sig at all. Its putting keywords in the sig that shows the expert is no expert.

      The other silly thing is that they are exposing their keywords and their sites to reverse engineering
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    I guess the upside is that you can spot the crappy "SEO Experts" by their signatures...
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  • Profile picture of the author jking1
    I'm not good in seo but I agree that spammy links can highly affect a website especially a forum website. What confuses me is that I saw many websites that still have high rankings even if they have lots of spammy and affiliate links.
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  • Profile picture of the author trytolearnmore
    New to SEO? Who to trust?
    In 6 words you've described the problem of the Adsense section of the Warrior Forum. This is the main reason why people still engage in shady "black-hat" link building schemes.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    What's wrong with forum sigs?
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    • Profile picture of the author smodha
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      What's wrong with forum sigs?
      Lol

      You missed "Miami Foreclosures"
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by smodha View Post

        Lol

        You missed "Miami Foreclosures"
        Ha, ha, that's what I'll do, I'll load my sig up with completely unrealistic keywords & blast them with 11,000 same domain irrelvant forum links.
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  • Profile picture of the author seonutshell
    I think the only reason people still believe in shady links is because people still sell them. People only still sell them beccause people still buy them lol. Its like a catch 22. Just leave them to it.

    However, buying High PR backlinks on pages (not domains) with low OBL is still a good idea, especially if contextual.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Okay, now I see what this about. Well, it's pretty dang
      entertaining if nothing else.

      I'm not sure, however, that real gurus ever said much
      about forum sigs. Anyone who touts them as the end all,
      sure, they're a little daft.

      Anyone that reads what google publishes, knows that google
      has published forum link guidelines. And anyone that did
      not know that google published a little something on
      forum spam links, well, they're just not looking under
      the right rocks. And that, is a sign of who you can trust.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author seonutshell
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        Okay, now I see what this about. Well, it's pretty dang
        entertaining if nothing else.

        I'm not sure, however, that real gurus ever said much
        about forum sigs. Anyone who touts them as the end all,
        sure, they're a little daft.

        Anyone that reads what google publishes, knows that google
        has published forum link guidelines. And anyone that did
        not know that google published a little something on
        forum spam links, well, they're just not looking under
        the right rocks. And that, is a sign of who you can trust.

        Paul
        In that case, what if google are only saying these things to get people to create quality content for there websites. Mabe they cant be bothered to change anything so say a few things, and publish a few articles about these methods not working anymore. Afterall, they are always on about wanting google to be about good user experience.

        Cold all be the biggest joke ever. just kidding but could happen.
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        • Profile picture of the author paulgl
          Originally Posted by seonutshell View Post

          In that case, what if google are only saying these things to get people to create quality content for there websites. Mabe they cant be bothered to change anything so say a few things, and publish a few articles about these methods not working anymore. Afterall, they are always on about wanting google to be about good user experience.

          Cold all be the biggest joke ever. just kidding but could happen.
          They never say this stuff doesn't work. Just what you should be doing,
          or not doing. The choice is yours. Google does not run the internet, the
          world, or anyone's life or business. They also state, in a roundabout way,
          that they do look for these things. Ignorance is no excuse. Google could
          care less if you follow what they say or not. But if you choose one way,
          well, that is your choice.

          How many times should one be told not to drink and drive? Does anyone
          actually need to be told not to drink and drive? Do people drink, drive,
          and make it home alive? Of course. So? Stop telling people to not
          drink and drive?

          Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    There are certain types of forum based SEO that are dead.
    And there are certain types of forum based SEO that are just emerging.
    I like to think, I work toward the latter.


    I still go by the pretense that Google judges individual pages as authorities unto themselves. And holds no biased to platform.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      I still go by the pretense that Google judges individual pages as authorities unto themselves. And holds no biased to platform.
      I dunno. It seems to me that Google is pretty good at noticing forums plus beyond the footprint issue there is also the fact that forums generate ton loads of links divving up the juice. This page has all the regular links and then the links for usernames and signatures.

      I've seen a page amass a bit of authority but the sig links are always going to degenerate toward trash and then theres the sheer number of them from the same source if you are contributing. I can't see any of this activity being any good ever again
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    Forum sigs should be used for the abundance of traffic it generates.

    I see very little SEO value.
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