PR4 & PR5 (No-Follow) Backlinks - Still Effective?

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I did some manual posting on PR4-PR5 (actual URL) that I found. All of which had less than 40 OB Links. The posting I did was to rank a YT Video.

I can't recall when, but at some point in the last few years, there was talk about a good PR5 equating to thousands of PR0 backlinks, etc. My question is, do you still think high PR (no-follow) have the same or somewhat similar effect?

I have not seen any significant increase in ranking with these. In my opinion, if it all boils down to them needing to be do-follow in order to really kick some butt, then it would be quicker/easier just to pay someone $5 to blast out 70k-100k of junk links since some of them are bound to stick.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Originally Posted by shockwave View Post

    I did some manual posting on PR4-PR5 (actual URL) that I found. All of which had less than 40 OB Links. The posting I did was to rank a YT Video.

    I can't recall when, but at some point in the last few years, there was talk about a good PR5 equating to thousands of PR0 backlinks, etc. My question is, do you still think high PR (no-follow) have the same or somewhat similar effect?

    I have not seen any significant increase in ranking with these. In my opinion, if it all boils down to them needing to be do-follow in order to really kick some butt, then it would be quicker/easier just to pay someone $5 to blast out 70k-100k of junk links since some of them are bound to 70-stick.
    Yeah great. And the links from the 70-100k that stuck.

    You could compile them all into a .txt file, And submit them to Google disavow preemptively. That will put you way ahead of time waiting for the Google unnatural link penalty to lift.

    A PR5 Do-Follow and a PR5 No-Follow are Polar opposites in terms of value and SERPs improvement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bambu
    Not all PR5 backlinks are created equal. Among other parameters you should be trying to acquire contextual backlinks. Google can easily determine that your backlink is present in the blog comment section.

    These types of links are easy to acquire and have been used to death by spammers. Google has accordingly decreased their value. So, in this instance it is the type of backlink and not the PR that is the likely cause of the low or no ranking increase after placing the backlink.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    PR5 nofollow blog comments are kind of useless.

    Google isn't that stupid.
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Originally Posted by shockwave View Post

    My question is, do you still think high PR (no-follow) have the same or somewhat similar effect?
    No-follow links will not have the same effect as do-follow links. In fact, according to Google, they will have no effect at all. That is the whole point of no-follow to begin with!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
    Originally Posted by shockwave View Post

    My question is, do you still think high PR (no-follow) have the same or somewhat similar effect?
    Use both, nofollow and dofollow so that you would be building natural links and there is no harm if you use nofollow links as they would be sending some traffics too.
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    • Profile picture of the author TomBuck
      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      No-follow links will not have the same effect as do-follow links. In fact, according to Google, they will have no effect at all. That is the whole point of no-follow to begin with!
      Second this. But also below quote is true to make your linking strategies look natural.

      Originally Posted by TheProgrammer View Post

      Use both, nofollow and dofollow so that you would be building natural links and there is no harm if you use nofollow links as they would be sending some traffics too.
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  • Profile picture of the author usman12
    very good idea but nofollow backlinks are best google like nofollow links in 2013 new updates
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Kahuna SEO
      Originally Posted by usman12 View Post

      very good idea but nofollow backlinks are best google like nofollow links in 2013 new updates
      Hmmmm.... "nofollow backlinks are best".... I disagree. Dofollow is still the king as far as ranking websites. Should have a mix of do and no follow? Maybe. Maybe, to look natural, maybe.... However to state that no follow links are "best" doesn't make any sense to me, from where I sit, on my sites...
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    • Profile picture of the author rjames
      Originally Posted by usman12 View Post

      very good idea but nofollow backlinks are best google like nofollow links in 2013 new updates
      please tell me you didnt mean this...
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  • Profile picture of the author bulkbacklinks
    You did good thing, ranking improvement is not only the reason of High PR, there are obviously some other points which you need to follow.
    One thing keep in mind PR 0 / PR 5 whatever link you are getting, important is that the same niche as your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrichard
    High page rank backlinks in relevant websites helps to increase website ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author m2bsolutions
    yes pr 4 and 5 links are still effective but try to get links from the site which have pr 7 or 8. it can help you more than pr 4 and 5 links
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    • Profile picture of the author normahl
      Originally Posted by m2bsolutions View Post

      yes pr 4 and 5 links are still effective but try to get links from the site which have pr 7 or 8. it can help you more than pr 4 and 5 links
      Wtf?

      Seems like everyone here has his own SEO company and is repeating phrases.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by m2bsolutions View Post

      yes pr 4 and 5 links are still effective but try to get links from the site which have pr 7 or 8. it can help you more than pr 4 and 5 links
      Better focus on PR9, they will help more then pr7 or 8
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Is PR11 any good?
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    • Profile picture of the author Janice Stacy
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Is PR11 any good?
      I was also thinking about that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Is PR11 any good?
      PR11 No good, Only good when with unique spun article on site related to your niche.

      Reading this thread makes me feel like shooting myself in the face. I'm wondering will blowing my brains out on a monitor help me rank in Google? Is brain matter do-follow or no-follow?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by usman12 View Post

        very good idea but nofollow backlinks are best google like nofollow links in 2013 new updates
        I cannot believe I just read that.
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  • PR of links is still important. However, the most important thing is to consider the source of the links you're getting. I mean would you rather a hearty PR 4 link from a totally whitehat blog, or a PR 4 link from a casino or pharma blog?

    In fact, I'd rather a really good contextual link from a PR 0 site (like a featured review of my site) than a PR4 from a spammy unrelated domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author easypr
    In my opinion PR is not as much important when we submit website or generate backlinks, becoz PR is not a constant, it will be decrease or increase. The main thing is relevancy of website + index + cache by search engine. If all these condition is follow by website, and if you get links in these website, than it is very helpful to your site.

    usman12 - Can you provide the Link where i see this update

    bulkbacklinks - I agree with you, relevancy is very important to generate the backlinks.

    williamrichard - High PR backlinks in revlant website are helpful in ranking, only when site is index, cache and they provide you dofollow links
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    • Profile picture of the author sdmtl
      What is wrong with some people...if you don't know what you are talking about, don't post!! So much nonsense! This post made my blood boil.
      It should be required to pass SEO 101 before you are able to answer a post!
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  • Profile picture of the author PROmotions LLC
    High PR No Follow would look good to Google, maybe influence your ranking, but most definitely be a good source of direct traffic if the site was legit.
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  • Profile picture of the author cwill184
    If Google likes links to a website that are natural, surely the best way to approach any link building campaign would be to do just that, it seems to me there are two options, both with three steps.

    A) Create good content
    B) Do your onsite optimisation well
    C) Wait for your links to come in naturally,

    Or

    Repeat steps A) & B) and then embark on a natural link building campaign comprising of every type of link you can think of, so some social media, some links from relevant websites, some from non relevant websites, some blog comments, some no follow, some dofollow, some high pr, some low pr etc, etc.

    I doubt when links come in to your site 'naturally' anyone who links to you doesn't care if the link fits in with your SEO campaign. I don't think Google does either. As long as your SEO doesn't have a pattern then it's unlikely you will fall foul of Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Make Money Ninja
    Question is pretty meaningless tbh. I was gonna say something smart like Yukon but he beat me to it
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Make Money Ninja View Post

      Question is pretty meaningless tbh. I was gonna say something smart like Yukon but he beat me to it
      Lol, I only posted that (PR11) because some of the comments above mine kept increasing the PR.

      Like anyone here would turn down something like a PR1/PR2 link.
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    • Profile picture of the author shockwave
      Originally Posted by Make Money Ninja View Post

      Question is pretty meaningless tbh. I was gonna say something smart like Yukon but he beat me to it
      Meaningless? Maybe I should rephrase it this way....(and remember I'm not talking about blasting backlinks to a website, I'm talking about a video)

      Do you think a PR1 do-follow has more juice than a PR4 no-follow?

      .....see what I'm getting at here? Clearly all things being equal, I would prefer a do-follow. I'm just asking if there is any significant linkjuice opportunity with a high PR no-follow link or if it's still junk.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lokahi
    Originally Posted by shockwave View Post

    I did some manual posting on PR4-PR5 (actual URL) that I found. All of which had less than 40 OB Links. The posting I did was to rank a YT Video.

    I can't recall when, but at some point in the last few years, there was talk about a good PR5 equating to thousands of PR0 backlinks, etc. My question is, do you still think high PR (no-follow) have the same or somewhat similar effect?

    I have not seen any significant increase in ranking with these. In my opinion, if it all boils down to them needing to be do-follow in order to really kick some butt, then it would be quicker/easier just to pay someone $5 to blast out 70k-100k of junk links since some of them are bound to stick.
    Of course it's easy to get frustrated with manual backlinking practices and become tempted by blackhat SEO methods. But those methods will only get penalties for your site and cause you many more hours of clean up work than if you'd simply gotten a few high quality (do follow or no follow) backlinks from related pages. It's so much easier to do the right thing
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