SEO link building questions before I start

by srcnix
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This is my first post and I have been building up a set of questions in what I know and have learnt about SEO and link building over the years. Link building isn't really something I went into myself and always outsourced.

I have done a considerable amount of research, I think it's about time I crack on and actually make progress. I have some questions before I feel comfortable and willing enough to do so. In addition to answering my questions, if you have any other advice, please fire away!



Where to link to
The first and probably the most important question I have: If I have a site about three different topics, X, Y and Z (www . xyz . com), that all relate and I publish a page/article/post about something to do with Y with the title being "How to [something about Y] with [something else]" and keyword phrase of "[something about Y]" which has the following URL:

www . xyz . com /y/how-to-something-about-y-with-something-else/

Would I do link building for the:

www . xyz . com - [something about Y]
Or
www . xyz . com /y/how-to-something-about-y-with-something-else/ - [something about Y]

My first thought is the latter, build links based on the actual page/article/post. I just wanted to confirm as a lot of what I read directs just to the domain.



Tier 1 links: Page rank 6+
I plan to write articles for high PR web 2.0 and article websites, along with commenting on high PR blogs for the first tier. I will also be bookmarking each page/article/post on high PR social bookmarking sites.

This will ideally be completely controlled, completely unique and manual work.

Tier 1 location question: Is there any other specific locations I should be building content for on my first tier of links?

Tier one quantity question: How many tier one links should I build? I have a list of 20 odd high PR web 2.0 sites, 10 or so article sites and a good 100 blogs/commenting sites related to my niche. Would I need to provide content on all of these if relevant to my keywords?

I ask this because for just tier 1 this could be a lot of work and I don't want to waste valuable time when I could spend it writing quality, useful blog posts that I deem more important for my visitors. Having said that, I need to get them to the site first!

Tier 1 content question: 20 web 2.0 sites and 10 or so articles sites is technically 30 articles to create, for one blog post. 2-3 of these a week and that's 60-90 additional articles to write.

This is a simple question, can I not just write a single article and rewrite the content of it, for example through manual spinning - or will I be penalised for this? How do most people deal with this if they don't want to spend $5.00 each of the 60-90 articles a week (Minimum $300.00 minimum) on Fiverr.



Tier 2 links: Page rank 3+
I plan to link to my tier 1 links through article directories, general directories, wikis, social bookmarks, blog/image/forum comments.

Tier 2 quantity question: Is this enough? should I move any of these out into tier 1 or tier 2?

Tier 2 automation question: When it comes to tier 2, I was looking to automate this process, but make it as human as possible and not SPAM. Slow, progressive link building (possibly 5-10 links a day across all articles, as opposed to 5-10 links a day for each article).

While the work will be automated, the links to post to will not be found automatically.

Is this a good course to take?

Tier 2 location question: Is there any other specific locations I should be building content for on my tier 2 links?



Tier 3 links: Page rank 0+
Linking to my tier 2 links, I looked at doing this fully automated, but not so much as SPAM content. While the work will be automated, the links to post to will not be found automatically.

Tier 3 location question: I plan to produce links through: article directories, social bookmarks, link directories, profiles (Forum, blog, site etc), stat sites / Pingbacks / Tracebacks. Does this sound OK or should I move some out into other tiers?

Tier 3 automation question: Ideally completely automated, 1 - 5 links to each tier 2 link every 2 - 3 days.

While it is fully-ish automated, the quality will be maintained and controlled by myself. Time will be put into the profile detail, titles, links etc.

Tier 3 location question: Is there any other specific locations I should be building content for on my final tier of links?

Finally, the end of my questions for now...

Final question: I release 3 blog posts a week, 2 of which could definitely attract visitors through low competition, low search 2,000 - 10,000 search keywords. Should I be doing my link building for each and every post, and can I do them right after release?

Finally, thank you for your time. It's much appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    The very first thing I saw about your "strategy" that there are no REAL links.

    All those links and tiers that you are explaining are junk/spam/you-name-it. While they might work quite well in 2013, they probably WILL get devalued in the near future.

    Where to link? Well, you get links to pages that you want to rank. If you want to rank homepage then get links to the homepage. If you want to rank a single page - get links to the page.

    BUT..

    Don't forget internal linking. It's very underrated thing, but should not be avoided at any cost. Furthermore, if you get enough decent links pointing to your homepage, your sub-pages etc will start to increase in SERP as well. You will get "auhtority" which will pimp the other pages as well.

    About the frequency of posting - There's no right and wrong answer. I have some sites that have only few pages, I have some sites where I post weekly. It doesn't matter though, but you will surely get more visitors since you are targeting more keywords. I would say post as much as you can, but don't just pump out content to gain more indexed pages. This is not a way to go.

    You have to make your every single post/page attractive - comprehensive/unique/valuable. I suggest you try e-mail outreaching, finding linkeratis etc who will share your stuff. If you get social shares, you will get natural links as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author srcnix
      Originally Posted by online only View Post

      The very first thing I saw about your "strategy" that there are no REAL links.

      All those links and tiers that you are explaining are junk/spam/you-name-it. While they might work quite well in 2013, they probably WILL get devalued in the near future.

      Where to link? Well, you get links to pages that you want to rank. If you want to rank homepage then get links to the homepage. If you want to rank a single page - get links to the page.

      BUT..

      Don't forget internal linking. It's very underrated thing, but should not be avoided at any cost. Furthermore, if you get enough decent links pointing to your homepage, your sub-pages etc will start to increase in SERP as well. You will get "auhtority" which will pimp the other pages as well.

      About the frequency of posting - There's no right and wrong answer. I have some sites that have only few pages, I have some sites where I post weekly. It doesn't matter though, but you will surely get more visitors since you are targeting more keywords. I would say post as much as you can, but don't just pump out content to gain more indexed pages. This is not a way to go.

      You have to make your every single post/page attractive - comprehensive/unique/valuable. I suggest you try e-mail outreaching, finding linkeratis etc who will share your stuff. If you get social shares, you will get natural links as well.
      Thanks for the comment. I'm not following as to why you think the tiers are not real links? The articles will be real, manually created, specific to my niche articles.

      Would you mind elaborating please?
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      • Profile picture of the author online only
        Well,

        I'm just telling you that if you produce awesome content and find people who might like this then you can just get links through e-mailing/private messaging/twittering etc.

        This actually works pretty well, I managed to get over 300 links from it over the period of 3 months. Which is basically 3 links per day. You might say it's not much (I agree), but the links were highly relevant, they drive traffic to my site and they are from reputables site and not placed by MYSELF.

        See the difference? Although you do tiered linking to make your web2.0's more powerful they are still not as good as links from REAL sites, placed by REAL people.

        I'm not saying web2.0s are complete junk, but if you mix them up with REAL links then you can get some pretty decent results which LAST.

        About guest posting and article directories... well. There are not much article directories left which are legit. So, 2-3 is more than enough if you REALLY want that. Guest posting is another thing that soon gets devalued, but if you are smart enough and make it look as editorial posts (not guestpost) then they can help you a lot.
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        • Profile picture of the author srcnix
          Originally Posted by online only View Post

          Well,

          I'm just telling you that if you produce awesome content and find people who might like this then you can just get links through e-mailing/private messaging/twittering etc.

          This actually works pretty well, I managed to get over 300 links from it over the period of 3 months. Which is basically 3 links per day. You might say it's not much (I agree), but the links were highly relevant, they drive traffic to my site and they are from reputables site and not placed by MYSELF.

          See the difference? Although you do tiered linking to make your web2.0's more powerful they are still not as good as links from REAL sites, placed by REAL people.

          I'm not saying web2.0s are complete junk, but if you mix them up with REAL links then you can get some pretty decent results which LAST.

          About guest posting and article directories... well. There are not much article directories left which are legit. So, 2-3 is more than enough if you REALLY want that. Guest posting is another thing that soon gets devalued, but if you are smart enough and make it look as editorial posts (not guestpost) then they can help you a lot.
          Ah, I completely understand. The idea behind what I am trying to achieve at the moment is a good ranking, as opposed to what I have now - pretty much nothing (way over page 100). Am I right in thinking my method will help increase my SERP, and if I have the quality content that I believe I do, others will do the work for me once found?
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    Others will not do the work for you, but if you spend like 2-3 hours per day just contacting webmasters in the same niche you will get handful of links per day.

    And those handful of links can get your site ranked well.

    But you have to make sure that your post/page/site is relevant to their site. Think for a second, why should they add a link to their site/page. Try to put it in 1-2 sentences and you are good to go. Another thing you can do is broken backlinking (just google it).

    There are actually tons of ways to get legit/editorial links, but I'm not going deep into that. Just do some research, start following reputable SEO guys and eventually you will now what works and what doesn't. If you spend some time learning the whitehat SEO you will generate your own strategies that you can basically implement on every single site you have.
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    • Profile picture of the author srcnix
      Originally Posted by online only View Post

      Others will not do the work for you, but if you spend like 2-3 hours per day just contacting webmasters in the same niche you will get handful of links per day.

      And those handful of links can get your site ranked well.

      But you have to make sure that your post/page/site is relevant to their site. Think for a second, why should they add a link to their site/page. Try to put it in 1-2 sentences and you are good to go. Another thing you can do is broken backlinking (just google it).

      There are actually tons of ways to get legit/editorial links, but I'm not going deep into that. Just do some research, start following reputable SEO guys and eventually you will now what works and what doesn't. If you spend some time learning the whitehat SEO you will generate your own strategies that you can basically implement on every single site you have.
      I didn't quite mean they'd do the work for me, I meant they should share the posts if they feel the content is "great" for them and others.
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