Plugged Site into my Network, a Lil Disappointed w Ranking

by momo3
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Hello

I have a blog network of about 45 sites.
Each is on a unique A class IP.

The DA/PA of all these sites is 20+, and PR ranges from 0-5, but averages at about 2 or 3.

All of these sites are established and have been around a while. Many rank in the top ten in this niche.

I bought a domain Early august and started dropping links on the above network, ~5 per day, for about ~8 days.

On the 25th the site went from nowhere to Top 30 (page 2-3) for most of its terms.

However, the site has ceased to move up much since then.

It seems stagnant, and I have even sent more links at it (although I am running out). I have also gone in and added some image links to some of them, and tried to create lots of variations.

My question: Since this site hasn't moved much, is the party over from these links? Or will this site hop again?

My theory: I feel that this site needs more unqiue IP's pointing at it, and much more variation in anchor text, to really give it some good diversity.

After that it might need a few more strong links. I want to achieve this but I do not want to do it in a spammy fashion. Any suggestions on where to acquire good clean links for diversity?

I am just rather shocked this site isn't in top ten because its not a super difficult niche.

Please note, I do realize its only been about two weeks, but I just felt it was rocketing so fast and has now stalled, and even dropped a bit.

PS - maybe things are just stagnant because of that weird update that occurred on the 4th?
#disappointed #lil #network #plugged #ranking #site
  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Three possibilities come to mind right away.

    1) The keyword is tougher than you though.
    2) The links are still not all indexed.
    3) The domains you bought were really not that great. What did you do to evaluate them before buying them?
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
    How long has it been since you began the drip feed? You mentioned the 25th was when it jumped up, but was that after or during the drip?

    Is the domain aged? If you registered a fresh domain obviously that could be a big issue. As mike said, also make sure the links have been indexed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      waaay too impatient. the 25th isn't even a full two weeks ago. haste makes waste and if your site just shot up to number one you could end up torching it anyway if a competitor reported it. take your time and slow your roll. Call us back in three months

      One of the things I see a people do who finally get a network is go crazy with linking every single keyword they can think of.
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  • Profile picture of the author momo3
    Thanks for everyone's feedback.

    MikeFriedman:

    - Keyword tougher than thought. Yes the keyword could be tougher than I thought.. but I dont think it is.. However, should I be focusing on ONE keyword here? I am kind of trying to be very mixed/broad/nonfootprint-y and I am using many of the top 7 keywords in this niche..

    - Links not indexed? Well, possible, but don't high PR links get seen very quickly by G? That is what I have concluded.. But you're probably smarter than me.

    - Domains not great. Yes, the domains were probably better back in their day, when I bought them (last year). But they do actually have actual serp rank so I think they have nice relevant back-links. They have high DA/PA, Trust flow and PR.. so I feel they should be decent.

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    Ryan LP:
    Ok the domain was bought on the 20th (wow, later than I thought). I started building links immediately. The site went from nowhere to to the top 30-40 (pages 3-4) on the 26th.


    It climbed a bit but hasn't moved much this month.

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    Mike, OK.. I will be more patient.

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    Does anyone agree with my theories that it needs a bigger diversity of links? What should I be doing to this site while I wait for it to climb more?

    Do you guys think this site could jump more with just simple patience? Or is the glory over?
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Some other things to keep in mind:

      - Is this an affiliate site with too few pages and too many affiliate links?
      - Did you use an EMD and only used money keywords as anchor?

      Panda and Penguin are much more trigger happy then it used to be so even with few links or poor content rankings can stagnate rather quickly.

      However first wait it out a bit, in the worse case it takes about 6-8 weeks before you can see the full result of the links, and that's not even the full result cause when I drip 60 high PR blog posts over a month time then my rankings keep on climbing for even 2 months after the last link is build.

      You would expect the opposite as by then the links are already rolled off the homepage but that isn't the case (yes they are rolled off) but rankings do not drop right away, after 3-4 months later it start to dip in a bit.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by momo3 View Post

      Does anyone agree with my theories that it needs a bigger diversity of links? What should I be doing to this site while I wait for it to climb more?

      Do you guys think this site could jump more with just simple patience? Or is the glory over?
      You don't need a bigger diversity, just make sure you're anchor text's are diverse enough. I repeat this trick tons of times with new sites and dozens of those blog posts.

      Once I had a site that climbed real slowly, 4 weeks before it started to rank and 12 weeks later it popped up at page one for the main keywords and stabilized, I never saw it take that long.

      I always build links sitewide btw to get the most long tail traffic as possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bambu
      As I told you previously, it is best be patient with this project. Wait a few more weeks before making your next move.

      Regarding the need for greater IP diversity, you need to examine the IP diversity of the websites on the first page of Google for your target keyword. If your IP diversity is in the same ball park as the first page results, I wouldn't expect this to be an issue...

      If, however, have a greater IP diversity, this is something you might to consider increasing.

      Originally Posted by momo3 View Post

      Thanks for everyone's feedback.

      MikeFriedman:

      - Keyword tougher than thought. Yes the keyword could be tougher than I thought.. but I dont think it is.. However, should I be focusing on ONE keyword here? I am kind of trying to be very mixed/broad/nonfootprint-y and I am using many of the top 7 keywords in this niche..

      - Links not indexed? Well, possible, but don't high PR links get seen very quickly by G? That is what I have concluded.. But you're probably smarter than me.

      - Domains not great. Yes, the domains were probably better back in their day, when I bought them (last year). But they do actually have actual serp rank so I think they have nice relevant back-links. They have high DA/PA, Trust flow and PR.. so I feel they should be decent.

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      Ryan LP:
      Ok the domain was bought on the 20th (wow, later than I thought). I started building links immediately. The site went from nowhere to to the top 30-40 (pages 3-4) on the 26th.


      It climbed a bit but hasn't moved much this month.

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      Mike, OK.. I will be more patient.

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      Does anyone agree with my theories that it needs a bigger diversity of links? What should I be doing to this site while I wait for it to climb more?

      Do you guys think this site could jump more with just simple patience? Or is the glory over?
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    • Profile picture of the author dennis09
      Originally Posted by momo3 View Post


      - Domains not great. Yes, the domains were probably better back in their day, when I bought them (last year). But they do actually have actual serp rank so I think they have nice relevant back-links. They have high DA/PA, Trust flow and PR.. so I feel they should be decent.
      What do you mean by you think they have nice relevant backlinks? You did actually look and verify them right? The other metrics you pointed out are ok if you're sifting through a bulk list of domains but they aren't always accurate. Also, you mentioned that you bought these domains last year, but keep in mind that the PR toolbar hasn't been updated since February. So there's a chance that some of your domains have lost PR while the PA/DA metrics have remained the same. If you're really worried about the strength of your network, or want some reassurance, then i'd advise you to check your backlink profiles to make sure there's actually a deserving amount of juice flowing through. If you're lazy then I suppose you could do spot checks or check your highest PR domains.

      On another note, I agree and disagree with the too early to tell notion. That all depends on your keyword competition. I'm a ninja when it comes to keyword research so I only choose the ones that will allow me to rank quickly, usually within a months timeframe. My personal rule of thumb is to break down the backlink profiles of the top 3 sites and then take the average number of juice passing links of the 3. I will then top this number and also build weaker (but non spammy) supporting links to take care of anchor and IP diversity.
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  • Profile picture of the author momo3
    Thanks Nik0.

    - No the site actually has no outbound links on it, not even affilaite links. Well wait, it actually does have one, but its not affiliate.
    - Yes it does lack a lot of content, only has a few pages. I want to add more ASAP.
    - Yes I try to add a mixture of generic/URL/and phrase/exact match. So 30/30/30. I also link w images.

    So on many of these sites in my network, I often have 3 outbound links all targeting this site. Is that too spammy?
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    3 outbound links per article you mean? Why not just stick to 1 instead of dividing the juice by factor 3?
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  • Profile picture of the author momo3
    Not per article, but per homepage. I was doing it to create anchor diversity.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Anchor diversity is not that important.

    And if you do believe in it, don't waste your best links on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author momo3
    OK Imagine my site is dogfood.com. So its less powerful to have 3 links from 1 high PR homepage, ie:

    Dog Food
    dogfoodsite.com
    click here

    Than it is to just have 1 link that says:

    Dog Food

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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by momo3 View Post

      OK Imagine my site is dogfood.com. So its less powerful to have 3 links from 1 high PR homepage, ie:

      Dog Food
      dogfoodsite.com
      click here

      Than it is to just have 1 link that says:

      Dog Food

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      Correct, especially If all those links point to the [exact] same URL & only use different anchor-text.

      Instead of stuffing a bunch of anchor-text, wrap the hyperlink with related plain text keywords.

      Example, just make it less obvious:
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  • Profile picture of the author momo3
    MikeFriedman: maybe anchor diversity is only important when you have many links, and therefore are looking more suspicious? Is that what you mean?
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by momo3 View Post

      MikeFriedman: maybe anchor diversity is only important when you have many links, and therefore are looking more suspicious? Is that what you mean?
      No. I mean it is just really not that important at all. Big freaking myth in my opinion. You can find plenty of sites ranking with a large percentage of anchor text being one or two keywords.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        No. I mean it is just really not that important at all. Big freaking myth in my opinion. You can find plenty of sites ranking with a large percentage of anchor text being one or two keywords.
        Or they have a huge amount of other solid links that dilutes it somehow, or they have such huge authority that they get away with it.

        The algo is always a combination of things so you can't say that anchor diversity is a myth.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Or they have a huge amount of other solid links that dilutes it somehow, or they have such huge authority that they get away with it.

          The algo is always a combination of things so you can't say that anchor diversity is a myth.
          I don't think I stuttered.

          Go ahead though. Keep wasting time chasing whatever fake percentages you think works. I don't care.
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          • Profile picture of the author Big Kahuna SEO
            Mike, So when you build links do you ONLY use exact anchor text? You don't vary it at all??


            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            I don't think I stuttered.

            Go ahead though. Keep wasting time chasing whatever fake percentages you think works. I don't care.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by Big Kahuna SEO View Post

              Mike, So when you build links do you ONLY use exact anchor text? You don't vary it at all??
              Why would he, it is one big myth :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author attorneydavid
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Or they have a huge amount of other solid links that dilutes it somehow, or they have such huge authority that they get away with it.

          The algo is always a combination of things so you can't say that anchor diversity is a myth.
          A site in my niche was top 10 based on 25 fairly clean pr anchor text links (say 1-3 obls) and the links obviously got devalued moving him to 30 or so just for that keyword.

          In any case. Lack of anchor text diversity is something that I think anyone can see has a high probability of getting you penalized in the future.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by attorneydavid View Post

            A site in my niche was top 10 based on 25 fairly clean pr anchor text links (say 1-3 obls) and the links obviously got devalued moving him to 30 or so just for that keyword.

            In any case. Lack of anchor text diversity is something that I think anyone can see has a high probability of getting you penalized in the future.
            Absolutely, and sometimes a keyword doesn't even have to have a high anchor %, it can already get triggered when you place only like 10 strong links (that get picked up quickly by Google) but all with the exact same anchor and there you go.
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  • Profile picture of the author momo3
    Yukon
    I appreciate your help very much. But I am sorry I am a bit confused.
    Can you please explain that a bit further? Sorry.

    All of my links are always contextual. So the 2-3 links I build per site are always within content.
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  • Profile picture of the author momo3
    Yes but wont they be hit when Penguin rolls 'round again?
    But yes, I hear ya, I do have some sites that were overoptimized and seemed to do ok via Penguin.. however, others were hit.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Here's the thing about owning all the backlink domains, don't be afraid to change the anchor-text. If your not already ranked #1 what could possibly go wrong (nothing)?

    The real question here should be are the links already indexed or not, like Mike already mentioned at the top of the thread?
    • Check your backlink pages Google Cache (text version) for the backlink/URL/anchor-text.
    • Check your Cpanel stats for the Googlebot showing up on the backlink page/s.

    One thing I sometimes do for easily spotting what Googlebot has reindexed is to add a keyword identifier in the backlink page title for domains/pages I own. You already have to edit your backlink page to drop your new backlink, so it's not anymore time consuming than what your already doing.

    Example (single page, two page title versions):
    • Old backlink page title: <title>Buy low cost auto insurance</title>
    • New backlink page title: <title>Buy low cost auto insurance 257</title>

    Now do an intitle:"257" site:domain.com Google search with the search results set to show 100 results per page.

    Google will return every single backlink page they've reindexed since you dropped the backlink. Proof Google has found your new backlink/s.

    Go back & remove the title identifier (ex: 257) If needed.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    If your worried about exact anchor-text then use the URL as the anchor.
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  • Profile picture of the author online only
    Folks, it's not about links anymore.

    If it would be so easy than everyone would set up random sites, get content from iwriter and blast hundreds of "quality" private blog network links to the site.

    Your site could be easily triggered by Panda or whatever.

    Create meaningful content, get social engagement, get some real links in addition and if the site haven't climbed much in the next few months then you should be worried.

    In short, make your site look like your nr1 goal is not to make money, but educate people who land on your site through Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by online only View Post

      Folks, it's not about links anymore.

      If it would be so easy than everyone would set up random sites, get content from iwriter and blast hundreds of "quality" private blog network links to the site.

      Your site could be easily triggered by Panda or whatever.

      Create meaningful content, get social engagement, get some real links in addition and if the site haven't climbed much in the next few months then you should be worried.

      In short, make your site look like your nr1 goal is not to make money, but educate people who land on your site through Google.
      This is the most controversial statement anyone can make here. Prepare to be flamed - for telling the truth.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

        This is the most controversial statement anyone can make here. Prepare to be flamed - for telling the truth.
        What truth are you talking about?

        Cause you guys failed with your affiliate sites in combo with high PR links doesn't mean that everyone fails at it.
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        • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          What truth are you talking about?

          Cause you guys failed with your affiliate sites in combo with high PR links doesn't mean that everyone fails at it.
          I haven't failed at sh*t You - on the other hand - are a complete, miserable, and total failure.

          There are so many ways to make money with affiliate marketing - it isn't even funny. The people who spend their time all day building toxic backlinks are missing out on making real money.

          But seriously, I understand your position. You have to sell your toxic backlinks to the only people dumb enough to buy them - so that means Newbs from WF...

          P.S. You really should read the recently revised Amazon Affiliate T.O.S. The days of the type of 'crappy websites' you build are coming to an end...
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

            I haven't failed at sh*t You - on the other hand - are a complete, miserable, and total failure.

            There are so many ways to make money with affiliate marketing - it isn't even funny. The people who spend their time all day building toxic backlinks are missing out on making real money.

            But seriously, I understand your position. You have to sell your toxic backlinks to the only people dumb enough to buy them - so that means Newbs from WF...

            P.S. You really should read the recently revised Amazon Affiliate T.O.S. The days of the type of 'crappy websites' you build are coming to an end...
            Says someone who was constantly pushing his Acadamy to all the noobs here, the kettle blames the pot isn't it.

            Although I'm not the pot as I don't have some lame membership site. In fact I have 7 small/medium sized SEO companies who outsource all of their clients to me. Why? Cause my "toxic" (your words) links work every single time for them.

            Enjoy selling more crap to the noobs through your "Acadamy" site

            "Hey there is this new advanced guide how to get rich in 7 days but don't forget you have to work hard"

            "Hey we are now launching our gold membership with even more fluff articles on the topic, this time we promise you get really rich from it"

            "Hey we have an interview with another con in our PPC business, with a great dozen upsells, but don't worry we added a cheap enough package so that everyone can benefit from it"

            Your e-mail list got to love you by now!
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            • Profile picture of the author webby0031
              LOL!!

              YOur all as bad as each other selling your BSO's .. if you make enough money why oh why do you spend all your days here selling shyte services.. if your pulling 20k a month why the hell would you even be here ? if you not then your advice and services are no good as they don't even work for you!

              not trying to aggravate anyone but thats my logic
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

                LOL!!

                YOur all as bad as each other selling your BSO's .. if you make enough money why oh why do you spend all your days here selling shyte services.. if your pulling 20k a month why the hell would you even be here ? if you not then your advice and services are no good as they don't even work for you!
                Lol you want me to throw away a $30k/month business of which $20k is recurring each month? Nope, I rather just double it by building sites on the side.

                Your logic sucks

                Keep in mind I started the other way around, first I offered SEO services after a couple of successes (used public blog networks back in the days but then a mix of 10 different ones that translated to $700/month memberships so it was easy for people to just buy a package of let's say $69 instead of spending 700 bucks each month), much much later I started to build sites for myself as I was way too busy from the start to free up time to do it. Now it's actually a bonus to my service as I know exactly where it can go wrong and thus supply customers with solid advice.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by Big Kahuna SEO View Post

        Mike, So when you build links do you ONLY use exact anchor text? You don't vary it at all??
        I use a lot of partial match anchor text. I have been doing that since long before Penguin. The reason I do it though has nothing to do with this varying anchor text BS. I did a lot of testing on it, and I found it to be a lot more effective.

        But I have ranked some pages for very competitive terms with 70-85% of the links having the same anchor text. Never had a problem with it.

        The real problem is link quality. Varying anchor text with a bunch of crappy links like forum signatures, profiles, blog commenting, public networks, etc... all you are doing is trying to polish a turd.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by online only View Post

      Folks, it's not about links anymore.

      If it would be so easy than everyone would set up random sites, get content from iwriter and blast hundreds of "quality" private blog network links to the site.

      Your site could be easily triggered by Panda or whatever.

      Create meaningful content, get social engagement, get some real links in addition and if the site haven't climbed much in the next few months then you should be worried.

      In short, make your site look like your nr1 goal is not to make money, but educate people who land on your site through Google.
      Bla bla bla, as long as I still have sites with crappy content and a one time blast of 60 high PR blog posts and such sites make me in the range of $300-$500/month then it's still all about links.

      You think it's easy to build a network of 100's of sites? Sure it isn't that incredibly hard but I think not everyone has $50.000+ to throw at it, so your whole "easy" statement makes totally zero sense.

      Now obvious you don't need 50k for an effective network, I know guys with a network of just 80 high PR sites who are totally killing it with their Amazon sites, but that still translates to $10k+, something that most people either don't have on the bank or not prepared to invest it.
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      • Profile picture of the author online only
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Bla bla bla, as long as I still have sites with crappy content and a one time blast of 60 high PR blog posts and such sites make me in the range of $300-$500/month then it's still all about links.

        You think it's easy to build a network of 100's of sites? Sure it isn't that incredibly hard but I think not everyone has $50.000+ to throw at it, so your whole "easy" statement makes totally zero sense.

        Now obvious you don't need 50k for an effective network, I know guys with a network of just 80 high PR sites who are totally killing it with their Amazon sites, but that still translates to $10k+, something that most people either don't have on the bank or not prepared to invest it.
        Look, maybe I was too harsh on you, but what I wanted to say is that:

        If you only rely on your private network links, create crappy amazon doorway sites and implement strategy "What if I make 100000 amazon sites that all make $100 a month then I would be a billionaire at the end of the year" then it's no way a long-term stuff.

        For me it's seems like more of a churn & burn + it potentially harms your "private" network.

        But if you think that your sites can last more than a year then sure, go for it.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by online only View Post

          Look, maybe I was too harsh on you, but what I wanted to say is that:

          If you only rely on your private network links, create crappy amazon doorway sites and implement strategy "What if I make 100000 amazon sites that all make $100 a month then I would be a billionaire at the end of the year" then it's no way a long-term stuff.

          For me it's seems like more of a churn & burn + it potentially harms your "private" network.

          But if you think that your sites can last more than a year then sure, go for it.
          Well, you have a point about long term, when you look at my visitor graphs you see quite a few bumps on the road but after each downfall I managed to get the site back on track again (without needing to add or change links) purely Panda wise, so from that point of view it isn't churn & burn as I never had to actually replace the site.

          Lately I split my network, one for real businesses, one for affiliate type of sites. I think there are much worse client sites out there that potentially harm my network, hence then split up.

          Let's have a look at my costs:

          - 60 high PR blog posts $80,- (pure cost price, network maintenance not included)
          - 40 page website $200,-
          - $20 for VA to setup

          That's $300,- that I mostly make back within 2-3 months (the timeframe to get stable rankings) of the startup and after that it brings that kind of amounts each month, or maybe a bit less or more.

          You can define a crappy site in 2 ways:

          - a crappy thin 5-10 page site that stands no chance
          - a crappy 40 page site structured and build in such way that it does withstand the Panda triggers.

          The crappy part is the content, it's definitely not very helpful or award winning writing being used, but it converts and the grammar/spelling of future sites is pretty reasonable.

          Google is still miles away from where it has to be if it wants to make a real fight against affiliate marketeers, or in other words it's still dead easy to "game" them. It's just that there are too many failure threads popping up that makes it look like it's too hard while it really isn't.

          Like I mentioned in other threads often the past weeks, there is only one small adjustment needed to succeed these days and that is to have a good amount of pages without affiliate links and reduce the affiliate links per page to an absolute minimum (I stick to 1, only few pages have more), so what does that cost me extra? 13 articles of $5 each per site.
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    fair enough Niko I never knew you could generate that much from this kind of service very surprising, but worth a look. wow
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      Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

      fair enough Niko I never knew you could generate that much from this kind of service very surprising, but worth a look. wow
      Yeah well it's revenue, but still, definitely not bad
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      Originally Posted by webby0031 View Post

      fair enough Niko I never knew you could generate that much from this kind of service very surprising, but worth a look. wow
      You don't really believe his BS revenue numbers, do you?
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        Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

        You don't really believe his BS revenue numbers, do you?
        Why is that so far fetched? I make 50k a month selling services out of my sig too. Sure, the number may change everytime I bring it up but its somewhere around there...I think.
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          Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

          Why is that so far fetched? I make 50k a month selling services out of my sig too. Sure, the number may change everytime I bring it up but its somewhere around there...I think.
          Oh you are insinuating as well that I make up numbers.

          And yes numbers do change in a positive line when you do a fine job, quite natural.

          Quality gets rewarded.

          By looking at the aggressive responses from long time members here in multiple threads it seems that business isn't going that great for them.

          Actually I feel honored about it as the sig removal in many threads is the prove that they see me as a threat, way too funny.
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    Hi Niko, hi Mike, hi Mike, hi yukon - how's business?

    momo3: you've got to be more patient. Chances are you have overdone it with the links already. If you focus on content, do some clever social media marketing and just get a few good links here and there and... WAIT... things should be fine. Like Mike said, give it at least 3 more months. Things have changed a lot in the last year or so.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Mantasmo View Post

      Hi Niko, hi Mike, hi Mike, hi yukon - how's business?

      momo3: you've got to be more patient. Chances are you have overdone it with the links already. If you focus on content, do some clever social media marketing and just get a few good links here and there and... WAIT... things should be fine. Like Mike said, give it at least 3 more months. Things have changed a lot in the last year or so.
      Business is bad as the forum mods or whoever have disabled my sig links in almost every single old post out there, pretty pathetic if you ask me.

      Guess I have to spend some more dollars on bumping threads here again to drive more traffic and get some love from the mods again LOL

      Oh well, way to busy anyway at the moment so can't be bothered that much.
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      • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Business is bad as the forum mods or whoever have disabled my sig links in almost every single old post out there, pretty pathetic if you ask me.

        Guess I have to spend some more dollars on bumping threads here again to drive more traffic and get some love from the mods again LOL

        Oh well, way to busy anyway at the moment so can't be bothered that much.
        Looks like you spammed WF one too many times. Oh well - live and learn
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

          Looks like you spammed WF one too many times. Oh well - live and learn
          Not more then anyone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Nothing new on warriorforum, heh? Threads go off-topic within the first 10 or so posts lol!

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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by Mantasmo View Post

      Nothing new on warriorforum, heh? Threads go off-topic within the first 10 or so posts lol!

      There's not a lot to discuss. The OP built a 'network' - pointed links at his 'money site' and didn't get the results he wanted.

      Could be he tripped up Google's super-sensitive spam filter. It's happening all the time
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