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I don't think I stuttered.

Go ahead though. Keep wasting time chasing whatever fake percentages you think works. I don't care.

A site in my niche was top 10 based on 25 fairly clean pr anchor text links (say 1-3 obls) and the links obviously got devalued moving him to 30 or so just for that keyword.

In any case. Lack of anchor text diversity is something that I think anyone can see has a high probability of getting you penalized in the future.

I haven't failed at sh*t You - on the other hand - are a complete, miserable, and total failure.

There are so many ways to make money with affiliate marketing - it isn't even funny. The people who spend their time all day building toxic backlinks are missing out on making real money.

But seriously, I understand your position. You have to sell your toxic backlinks to the only people dumb enough to buy them - so that means Newbs from WF...

P.S. You really should read the recently revised Amazon Affiliate T.O.S. The days of the type of 'crappy websites' you build are coming to an end...

Well, you have a point about long term, when you look at my visitor graphs you see quite a few bumps on the road but after each downfall I managed to get the site back on track again (without needing to add or change links) purely Panda wise, so from that point of view it isn't churn & burn as I never had to actually replace the site.

Lately I split my network, one for real businesses, one for affiliate type of sites. I think there are much worse client sites out there that potentially harm my network, hence then split up.

Let's have a look at my costs:

- 60 high PR blog posts $80,- (pure cost price, network maintenance not included)
- 40 page website $200,-
- $20 for VA to setup

That's $300,- that I mostly make back within 2-3 months (the timeframe to get stable rankings) of the startup and after that it brings that kind of amounts each month, or maybe a bit less or more.

You can define a crappy site in 2 ways:

- a crappy thin 5-10 page site that stands no chance
- a crappy 40 page site structured and build in such way that it does withstand the Panda triggers.

The crappy part is the content, it's definitely not very helpful or award winning writing being used, but it converts and the grammar/spelling of future sites is pretty reasonable.

Google is still miles away from where it has to be if it wants to make a real fight against affiliate marketeers, or in other words it's still dead easy to "game" them. It's just that there are too many failure threads popping up that makes it look like it's too hard while it really isn't.

Like I mentioned in other threads often the past weeks, there is only one small adjustment needed to succeed these days and that is to have a good amount of pages without affiliate links and reduce the affiliate links per page to an absolute minimum (I stick to 1, only few pages have more), so what does that cost me extra? 13 articles of $5 each per site.

Oh you are insinuating as well that I make up numbers.

And yes numbers do change in a positive line when you do a fine job, quite natural.

Quality gets rewarded.

By looking at the aggressive responses from long time members here in multiple threads it seems that business isn't going that great for them.

Actually I feel honored about it as the sig removal in many threads is the prove that they see me as a threat, way too funny.

Not more then anyone else.