Rankings won't budge even with high PR network

11 years ago

How long have the links been live? Also, are you sure they are indexed by Google?

Easy way to check is just by putting site:yourhighprdomainhere.com "your link keyword" into Google.

From my past experiences with other sites it has taken anywhere from a few days to 3 months to show any effect.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

It's very likely that you deal with a Panda penalty that has frozen your rankings.

There is also some random thing in Google's algorithm that can delay the effect of the links by 6-8 weeks so don't worry too fast.

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trade4861

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

It's very likely that you deal with a Panda penalty that has frozen your rankings.

There is also some random thing in Google's algorithm that can delay the effect of the links by 6-8 weeks so don't worry too fast.

What do you mean by freezing rankings? You think Google prevents you from moving up? Regardless if your site were to go viral? Just wondering what you mean by that.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

It's very likely that you deal with a Panda penalty that has frozen your rankings.

Wow... that's a new one.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Wow... that's a new one.

A pretty old one actually.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

A pretty old one actually.

Who had SERP rank frozen?

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Who had SERP rank frozen?

I had after one of these Panda updates, first a small drop in rankings and after nothing helped to move it. Besides re-designing the site to get rid of that penalty first.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

I had after one of these Panda updates, first a small drop in rankings and after nothing helped to move it. Besides re-designing the site to get rid of that penalty first.

That's not a penalty, you can edit your web pages anytime you want, as often as you want.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

That's not a penalty, you can edit your web pages anytime you want, as often as you want.

Lol you have no clue what I'm talking about

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Lol you have no clue what I'm talking about

Lol, agreed.

If you had a page frozen in the SERPs, that would mean it couldn't move up or down the SERPs. I have a hard time believing that would happen. Google wouldn't even let the page drop in the SERPs huh (frozen)?

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Lol, agreed.

If you had a page frozen in the SERPs, that would mean it couldn't move up or down the SERPs. I have a hard time believing that would happen. Google wouldn't even let the page drop in the SERPs huh (frozen)?

My example was based on sites that already had the drop before, so indeed a bit irrelevant to this discussion.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

It's very likely that you deal with a Panda penalty that has frozen your rankings.

"It must be true: I read it in the Warrior Forum."

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davehayes 11 years ago

Wow, there are some good answers in this thread. I have to say, there are some excellent answers and good reasons, behind them.

However, it is difficult to answer exactly why the poster is having this problem, without fully analysing the blogs and the type of site s/he is using, if its wordpress, it should be pretty much straight forward, or as straight forward as it can be, because WP has tutorials and a good support forum to guide you through this maze, which works as far as I understand it in conjunction with Google

I hope this answer is helpful to you

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

"It must be true: I read it in the Warrior Forum."

Lol, someone with 100's of clients doesn't see any tendencies ey? Why don't you just stick to your writing jobs instead of spamming the SEO forum?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Why don't you just stick to your writing jobs

I don't do writing jobs. I work only for myself, thanks.

Originally Posted by nik0

instead of spamming the SEO forum?

"Spamming"? I'm one of the few Warrior Forum members who has never promoted or sold any products or services here at all. Naturally I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with members doing that, but I've never had occasion to do it myself, as I have no products or services to sell/promote here, but it makes it all the more ridiculously ironic when you suggest that I'm "spamming": people who live in glass houses really should learn to draw the blinds very carefully indeed before removing their pants.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

"Spamming"? I'm one of the very few Warrior Forum members who has never promoted or sold any products or services here at all. People who live in glass houses should draw the blinds very carefully before removing their pants.

Comments based on wrong assumptions equals spamming in my dictionairy.

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momo3

11 years ago

This is the same problem I have. The site actually came to top 30 in a few days, but has been sitting there for this entire month.

Nik0 - what kind of panda penalty could happen if the links are clean and the onsite is very full of images, long content, good navigation, several pages.. etc.

?

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JSProjects

11 years ago

Originally Posted by momo3

This is the same problem I have. The site actually came to top 30 in a few days, but has been sitting there for this entire month.

Nik0 - what kind of panda penalty could happen if the links are clean and the onsite is very full of images, long content, good navigation, several pages.. etc.

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Google is so finicky that it could be one of a million different possibilities.

As you suggested, I'd definitely work on indexing those links. And how's your competition? You may be stuck because the other sites are simply stronger than yours.

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momo3

11 years ago

Guys, what are your thoughts on using an indexing service to index the high PR pages so google can see the links?

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Kevin Maguire

11 years ago

Whole network could be a fuddy duddy. If its based on PR, something that has not been updated for a dogs age. Must be tonnes of high PR duds surfing the auctions by now.

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bigballin6161

11 years ago

This happened to me. Someone told me I was penalized for overoptimization of anchor text. Now its really frozen since I got the unnatural links penalty for sape links.

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KylieSweet 11 years ago

There is no such thing as FROZEN RANKINGS for gods sake
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- JAMES2503 11 years ago
  
  One other thing I've found that carries a lot more weight than most is how relevant are the links? The more relevant, contextual links you have, the more authority you gain.
  
  Forget about PR for now, since it hasn't been updated in donkeys just focus on relevancy and authority.
  
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- nik0 Banned 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by KylieSweet
  
  There is no such thing as FROZEN RANKINGS for gods sake
  
  Not in the Philipines no, there rankings only drop further when you're done with your SEnukex campaign.
  
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SoCal Digital

11 years ago

You may need to get links from another variety of sources. Perhaps your current High PR blog posts got you to whatever you are ranking for now, but maybe you need to do other things like optimize your on-page seo, get social signals, manually comment on other blogs etc.

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squadron

11 years ago

Originally Posted by hobokook

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My problem is that even shooting my money sites with links from all these high PR domains, my rankings don't budge...even for low comp keywords.

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What I suggest you do is "aim off" in your title tag, wait 2-3 weeks and see what happens. By aim off I mean use a related term to your money term AND also make your title tag longer (maybe 200 characters), than the recommended 65-70 character length. Basically de-optimize your title tags.

I have found this approach can help shake frozen rankings and once it does, switch your title tags back to your primary term.

Example:

Red Widgets - Buy Red Widgets Online - Free Shipping
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Best Red Widgets - Browse & Buy Online and Get Free Shipping. Great Gift for Christmas and Fathers Day

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