SEO Hosting-Can Google Still Find Out that I Own These Websites?

11 years ago

Yes Google can still tell. There are a number of ways google can track a server and domains being on the same server. Thats the reason I and many others suggested long ago that the best option is different hosts on different boxes NOT SEO hosting

I just don't go bat crazy like a few people here do when anyone mentions Class C Ips. I know what they are referring to and why they are looking at it but it is no longer best practice to use SEO hosting.

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A S M

11 years ago

Just setup each of your sites on individual hosting and on different providers i.e godaddy, hostgator, namecheap etc its more expensive but worth it.

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micksss

11 years ago

Different hosting companies is the way to go. Check the web hosting section here on WF and definitely the shared hosting offers section on Web Hosting Talk.

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M@tt

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Chloe Brooks

Hi Warriors,
I am going to put up about 15+ websites in which I will set up SEO hosting which means the websites will be located on different C ip addresses. So by doing this, I hope Google will not see that it's from the same server and know that I own these domains. So although I do this, would Google still be able to know that I own these domains somehow and not count the links or hold it against me? I will use these to link to important websites but don't want google to know that I own them all...

I used the whois guard that makes my personal data no publically available.

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Google has all these IPs already and will blacklist / rank down sites that appear on them. Your best bet, as others have said, is buy separate shared accounts with different providers.

I wrote a blog post about the myth of SEO hosting which you can read at Why SEO hosting is bad

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Bent SEO

11 years ago

Yeah I was fishing for some new SEO Hosting as well for a project but the majority of my sites are on a swath of different host. On top of that they're all privately registered, have different permalink structures, look completely different, run on different CMS, etc etc.

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RobinInTexas

11 years ago

You can't hide anything from google. They even know what color underwear you are wearing and will penalize you if it's white, and you get bumped up in the SERPs if you go commando.

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Bent SEO

11 years ago

Originally Posted by RobinInTexas

You can't hide anything from google. They even know what color underwear you are wearing and will penalize you if it's white, and you get bumped up in the SERPs if you go commando.

Who doesn't go commando when doing SEO? This is the single handed biggest SEO bump you can get.

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webdevpro

11 years ago

There could be many way to track besides IP like the Name Server IPs or the IP you usually use to login to your webmaster or analytic account (so frequently) even if you have different accounts for each site.

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Kingfish85

11 years ago

Originally Posted by webdevpro

There could be many way to track besides IP like the Name Server IPs or the IP you usually use to login to your webmaster or analytic account (so frequently) even if you have different accounts for each site.

+1

Plus, most people forget that you can easily see who owns the IP blocks & where they go. Using multiple IP's going back to the same server as Mike Anthony said is pretty much pointless.

If you are providing good quality content that isn't spammy or trying to fool the search engines into thinking it's something that it's not, Google doesn't care if they're linked together on the same server or even the same IP.

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PerformanceMan

11 years ago

Google is similar to Santa Claus. They're keeping a list and checking it twice. They always know who's naughty and nice.

Then they penalize them either way

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ThatAblaze 11 years ago

Dude, if you have something in the order of 15 domains then you are not the droid they are looking for. They de-refrenced networks with hundreds of domains about a year ago, but 15 is small potatoes. Just host them on a popular server with whois guard and you'll get lost among the crowd. I suggest namecheap, it's about the cheapest when you factor in whois guard.
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markowe

11 years ago

Google have done a good job of concealing just how powerful their data-crunching is, or not, as the case may be, inspiring fear and awe in SEOs. I really wonder whether on a regular algorithmic level they can crunch all these "footprint" factors we so fear. Every time they add a new ranking factor into the mix, that's probably an exponential increase in processing power for their servers. Are they really connecting the dots on ips, server names, CMS footprints, Whois data for EVERY site of the millions of there? I really doubt it, considering that JUST checking the anchor text ratios for every site out there (Penguin) can only be done through occasional big updates. It's just too much work, they don't have limitless processing power, though of course it grows all the time. Having said all that, I still wouldn't use SEO hosting :-D

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

A unique server for each domain is impossible, unless you also start to rent dedicated servers or VPS's world wide.

Thing is that with the shared hostings, especially the ones in the US is that there are maybe 20 unique ones, all the other ones are resellers of each other (talking about those cheap hosts) so no matter how hard you try you still end up with duplicated servers.

I know cause a former lead gen client of mine signed up for 100+ different shared hosts to find out that it was far from unique as he expected.

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Mike Anthony

11 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

A unique server for each domain is impossible, unless you also start to rent dedicated servers or VPS's world wide.

Thing is that with the shared hostings, especially the ones in the US is that there are maybe 20 unique ones, all the other ones are resellers of each other (talking about those cheap hosts) so no matter how hard you try you still end up with duplicated servers

Nik you are kind of confusing servers with hosting companies. Even if you are using a reseller of a service you already use, the box can be entirely different (especially if you do not buy all at the same time - servers full up new ones are provisioned). Not saying you won't have ANY overlap of servers but there are tens of thousands of servers even if there are few real different hosting services/data centers.

Its best to buy the services over time rather than all at once. Practice is to load a box and order another one. You can stay with a busy host, order every few months and be on several different boxes with the same host.

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nik0

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Nik you are kind of confusing servers with hosting companies. Even if you are using a reseller of a service you already use, the box can be entirely different (especially if you do not buy all at the same time - servers full up new ones are provisioned). Not saying you won't have ANY overlap of servers but there are tens of thousands of servers even if there are few real different hosting services/data centers.

Its best to buy the services over time rather than all at once. Practice is to load a box and order another one. You can stay with a busy host, order every few months and be on several different boxes with the same host.

I confuse servers with data centers or servers with IP ranges really as that was the indication that we were dealing with the same type of hosting companies.

What I do nowadays is indeed sign up multiple times to the same hosting companies with an interval of a couple of months. Otherwise it's just not doable to keep up.

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Bent SEO

11 years ago

Also note that Google can track ownership of sites via Analytics, Adsense account and Chrome Logins - Essentially any of their products, so if you want to be super safe? Use statcounter and firefox

This is if you're already putting in as many other safeguards as possible.

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Mike Anthony 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Bent SEO

Also note that Google can track ownership of sites via Analytics, Adsense account

If you are looking to network with domains then you would be a fool to use either of those to begin with.
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- Bent SEO 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  If you are looking to network with domains then you would be a fool to use either of those to begin with.
  
  Yeah no doubt - just hammering the point in in case it slipped by.
  
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Simin

11 years ago

Yes... google hire many genius student from around the world.
Many from this employees are ex-hacker. And all this googler will hack to the system and know that you own all the domain.. Scary ha?

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