Would you agree wiht this SEO theory? (TheHutz where are you)

Hey Dale,

Right - lets take a look...

It is true that most article directories aren't given as much value by Google as they used to. Article marketing originally was used more as a tool to get your content out there. Once it was discovered about the backlink value people started going over the top.

There is one article directory for sure (there are others but can't think off top of my head) that is still considered fine - especially by Google and that is EzineArticles Submission - Submit Your Best Quality Original Articles For Massive Exposure, Ezine Publishers Get 25 Free Article Reprints

The reason being, is the strong editorial process articles go through to even be accepted. This editorial process is valued by Google as it is unlikely rubbish content will be allowed in.

With regards to Pagerank - this is the best way I can describe what he's saying (which is true)

Say you have a bucket full of water - the water is your pagerank/link juice that you have built up.

You decide to link to someone. By doing so, you have just put a whole in your bucket and are beginning to lose your PR (water).

The more people you link to, the more holes in your bucket, and the more water you lose.

Hope that makes sense?

Oh by the way, I sent you a PM on here yesterday, let me know what you think.

thanks for nice and usefull information. thanks for both of you

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He's incorrect here. While a well crafted blackhat campaign that used incoming links as part of it might hurt your rankings, ordinary article submissions won't hurt you. They may not help you much, if any at all, but they won't hurt you.

This is part of the public, patented, Google algorithm from around 1998-2000. However, it's based on the page, not the domain as a whole. If the consultant said it was on a site basis he was off-base there too. A site wide lowering would be the result of the entire site being a link farm or that they were caught selling links.

There is also some evidence that suggests that Google has adjusted their algorithm to ignore or discount certain common PageRank sculpting techniques. For example, it appears that linking out to authority sites, such as Wikipedia or CNN, might be helpful to you.

Basically, today it's a lot more complicated that just having "too many outbound links".

I don't believe that Google will actually punish you. It's just that tons of links coming from a very small number of sites doesn't get you enough domain variety to get full link juice from Google.

Tyrus

The thing that's bothering me in the original quote is the phrase "a site's pr". This is confusing really: pagerank is assigned to pages, not sites (fair enough), and still we are talking about the site's pr leaking. Is it about the homepage pr? Or is the leaking process evenly distributed all over the site? There must be something I'm missing out here.

Which brings me to an idea: are internal pr values determined by the homepage pr? Or is it just the internal linking factor?

What everyone else has said pretty much sums it up.

Hi Dale,

Whilst you won't hurt your sites rankings through article marketing, you won't necessarily gain anything either if the article sites are mostly "junk". That being said, Google likes to look for patterns more than anything.

I know it may be controversial to say this, but my experience supports it: you can even get as many as 10,000 backlinks a week to a brand new website without those backlinks being filtered, just so long as you keep this sort of high backlink building ongoing each week. Things start to look off the moment Google sees a massive "spike" in backlinks within a certain time period, and then no or very few backlinks for months after that. The quantity isn't of concern, it's the spacing out, and the consistency that is.

In terms of an Article Submission Service, any of the big brand name ones will do. They all use similar, and in some cases even the same, directories.

That's exactly right Hutz,

A small site that releases a juicy piece of link bait, or that reaches top rankings in the Social Bookmarking sites for whatever reason, will have that unexpected growth explosion, and of course Google's algorithms take that into account.

But yes, for long term SEO building, consistency is what you need. Also you'll want a mix of backlinks from high ranking, trusted domains along with lower ones.

Dale, just think what would Google expect to happen if you released a great new website in your niche. They'd expect mostly low-mid ranking sites to give it a link, with a few high ranking sites as well, steadily, and consistently, over time. Giving the Google bot this "illusion" is the key to SEO, whether the stakes are small, or high.

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