Private Blog Network Basics Questions

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After a few days studying, learning and a little testing, I'm mentally committed to starting my own blog network. A few questions before fully diving in that maybe so of you can answer:

Does registering multiple domains through Namecheap or other domain service on the same account leave a footprint even with private information?

What prevents people from just putting up the old information that was on a site using Archive.org to ensure it keeps its Pagerank and just adding their own links/articles and minimizing outbound links? Won't creating inner pages mirroring the old site maintain link juice even to those locations i.e. www.yourdomain.com/sample-blog-post, assuming sample blog post has tons of inbound links?

From the looks of it I've found several domains with quality Domain Authority, Citation Flow, Trust Flow, and Pagerank. There's obviously other steps to verify the validity of these metrics and check on poor quality links from the past. But, it seems the only requirement to setting up blogs on these domains is to purchase the domain for around $12 then buy cheap hosting like hobohost or fatcow for less than $20/yr. So owning a blog network can be as cheap as $40 a site? Why do so many make it sound impossible to do it? From my understanding owning and maintaining your own PBN can be the most powerful way to control your SEO?

Thanks for your input!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChristianSites
    I'm not terribly experienced with PBNs, but may be able to answer a couple of your questions.

    First, registering multiple sites with the same host will leave a footprint, I believe through the IPs used. While there apparently are "seo" hosts that offer to remedy this issue, you're apparently better off just going with reputable, inexpensive, different hosts for each site.

    Second, it is illegal to simply copy the content from the wayback machine. While there may not be anyone actually stopping you, this violates copyright law (you do not own the copyright to that material).

    Hope this helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by ChristianSites View Post

      Second, it is illegal to simply copy the content from the wayback machine. While there may not be anyone actually stopping you, this violates copyright law (you do not own the copyright to that material).
      Theres that and theres the fact that many sites won't have a wayback entry and it fine way to tick off one of the former sites owners and get the network reported.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jack31
        Hey Mike, was getting my questions asked on your site with "David" in chat but he logged off..

        This might be a silly question, but what are your thoughts about logging into your PBN domains if you're logged into gmail and using your home's IP address?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by Jack31 View Post

          This might be a silly question, but what are your thoughts about logging into your PBN domains if you're logged into gmail and using your home's IP address?
          I'd be more worried about using chrome. Google would be in some serious trouble tracking my movements on the web through my email....Chrome now well thats a browser.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

    From the looks of it I've found several domains with quality Domain Authority, Citation Flow, Trust Flow, and Pagerank. There's obviously other steps to verify the validity of these metrics and check on poor quality links from the past. But, it seems the only requirement to setting up blogs on these domains is to purchase the domain for around $12 then buy cheap hosting like hobohost or fatcow for less than $20/yr. So owning a blog network can be as cheap as $40 a site?

    You say you have studied it but your post indicates you have not learned very much if you think its all about buying $12 domains. Read up some more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Weedy92
    #1. Go with different registers, unique names, etc.

    #2. Nothing, people take Archieve.org content and reuse it all the time. If you're smart you'll rebuild the entire site down to the past inner pages. I like to start from scratch, but that's just me.

    #3. It gets expensive.. Content, adding new backlinks, domain reg fee, different hosting accounts, etc. If you have the cash, then it's more of a time management thing that becomes the biggest challenge.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeadStartSEO
    Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

    Does registering multiple domains through Namecheap or other domain service on the same account leave a footprint even with private information?
    Lots of disagreement here. However, Google is now a registrar so they are probably closer to uncovering domain ownership as a footprint than they were before. It takes an extra 5 minutes or $3-5 per site to get WhoIs privacy, so imo it's worth it.

    I vary registration by day, and never use the same name more than once. The sites are about 50/50 WhoIs protected vs not.

    You're making a big investment; be proactive and put in the extra 10% of covering your tracks.

    Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

    What prevents people from just putting up the old information that was on a site using Archive.org to ensure it keeps its Pagerank and just adding their own links/articles and minimizing outbound links?
    Google keeps expired documents in their index for some length of time and I've had client sites come up as duplicate for ripping content from expired domains. Keeping the same URL structure is safe and recommended. Using OSE, you can see what their top pages were. Just recreate anything that had decent PA... no need to rebuild everything.

    Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

    Won't creating inner pages mirroring the old site maintain link juice even to those locations i.e. www.yourdomain.com/sample-blog-post, assuming sample blog post has tons of inbound links?
    Yes.


    Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

    But, it seems the only requirement to setting up blogs on these domains is to purchase the domain for around $12 then buy cheap hosting like hobohost or fatcow for less than $20/yr. So owning a blog network can be as cheap as $40 a site? Why do so many make it sound impossible to do it? From my understanding owning and maintaining your own PBN can be the most powerful way to control your SEO?
    Let's say that you need a minimum of 5 quality sites per money site. Say that, conservatively, you have 5 money sites. That's 25 domains. 25*12*20(abs min): $300 setup, $500/year. Keep in mind that a fraction of your $20/year hosts are going to bust within the year, and/or have poor customer service. On a network of 500 all built on small, cheap hosts 40-50 hosts just disappeared or were hacked. So there's an extra 10-15% cost.

    Imo, you should be adding a basic design/header ($5 fiverr) to each site and some fluff content. I use 2-3 posts of fluff for every 1 post of links to money site(s). If your post to money sites is decent, that comes out to about $15-20 per post to your money site, * 5 for each money site and you get $100 for each round of link dripping.

    All in total, 900-1000 to get up and running. Worth it if you have the time and some experience under your belt.

    Just my 2c from building a few of these. It's easier done when you have some cloud app where people can submit their sites and get credit for the quality of the sites, and also where there is an approval process from other members of the network.

    I think a better strat starting out would be to spend 300-400 on a nice PR3 or 4 expired domain with DA and PA > 30, then spend 400-500 on content and design. Monetize with CPA offers and use the income to fund your network.
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  • Profile picture of the author FranksToys
    If these are teh qeustions you are asking (no offense) just forget about a network and go with a reputable service that offers links in their network.

    You'll piss away a lot of time and effort not getting anywhere if you dont do it right to begin with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Haque
    It's important to ensure that the domain you purchase is not blacklisted / de-indexed by Google. It will be a hurdle to get that site indexed once you built it back. Just check the domain is still indexed or not.
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