Obtaning Backlinks: Sponsored Links or TOO MANY Outbound links Spammy bad? Are You Sure?

11 years ago

I haven't heard anything about them being spammy, but being bad as far as too many outbound links ending up diluting the juice you get out of them.

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GGpaul 11 years ago

Originally Posted by jinx1221

I haven't heard anything about them being spammy, but being bad as far as too many outbound links ending up diluting the juice you get out of them.

Is there any case study/studies or any proof of that as well that it ends up diluting the juice from the links? I'm just curious. Thanks by the way.
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Kevin Maguire

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

I've read before that people say a site with a section saying "Sponsored links" that link to a lot of sites is considered spammy/bad links OR have too many outbound links are bad. Whoever said that, are you SURE about that? What evidence do you have?

I've gone through so many sites where they specifically have a page to sponsor these links. For instance..

IFB Links a la Mode | inHer Glam

Love Yourself Always and Forever; Links à La Mode | Bonne Vie

The Dapper Bun: IFB Links À La Mode: May 31st

Each site that I've provided has a "decent" PR and a LEGITIMATE site/blog I would say.

So....what exactly do people mean don't go for a site with too many outbound links? Can someone clarify that for me? OR does it boil down to... don't go for a shitty site period.

Because these sites that I've provided have a ton of outbound links. And I'm pretty sure it didn't affect a lot of the sites that they're linking to.

PR Juice

-15% Divided by OBL = Juice Flow Value

I'm thinking about building a network of related product sites. And actually branding it as a network openly with homepage footer links.

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Bit Designs

11 years ago

The way I see it, if link juice were a juice, and you pour that juice into two cups and not one cup, each person is getting half the amount of juice. Now if a PR0 page is splitting its very limited juice between a large amount of sites, well... It may not always be "bad SEO" but it certainly is not worth the time it takes to get the link placed.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Bit Designs

The way I see it, if link juice were a juice, and you pour that juice into two cups and not one cup, each person is getting half the amount of juice. Now if a PR0 page is splitting its very limited juice between a large amount of sites, well... It may not always be "bad SEO" but it certainly is not worth the time it takes to get the link placed.

I get that but is there any source evidence of that? I would like to know.

For instance, let's say CNN.com (PR 9) links thousands of sites a day. And I so happened to get a link from them. Would that even matter then? I've heard stories of "Don't go for more than 20 outbound links". Are we sure about that? Is there a criteria to do that? Perhaps don't go for a PR 4 site that was created in 2008 with more than 20 outbound links? In comparison to "F it, it's cnn.com who cares, if it has 82323 links, it's a PR 9 and a credible site."

Basically what I'm saying is, is there more to it than just "outbound links". Are we looking at the overall credibility of the site. And if so, then we should address that to others so they don't get mistaken that "Oh we should never go for sites with a lot of outbound links" when they just had a missed opportunity.

Sorry, I just have so many questions.

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SEODollz

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

I get that but is there any source evidence of that? I would like to know.

For instance, let's say CNN.com (PR 9) links thousands of sites a day. And I so happened to get a link from them. Would that even matter then? I've heard stories of "Don't go for more than 20 outbound links". Are we sure about that? Is there a criteria to do that? Perhaps don't go for a PR 4 site that was created in 2008 with more than 20 outbound links? In comparison to "F it, it's cnn.com who cares, if it has 82323 links, it's a PR 9 and a credible site."

Basically what I'm saying is, is there more to it than just "outbound links". Are we looking at the overall credibility of the site. And if so, then we should address that to others so they don't get mistaken that "Oh we should never go for sites with a lot of outbound links" when they just had a missed opportunity.

Sorry, I just have so many questions.

Pretty easy to test this for yourself if you have the time, but it has been tested extensively if you don't. Link juice is divided between all of the OBL on the page, that includes navigational links that lead to other pages on the same sites and it also includes no-follow links. Just because I no-follow a link to your site on my page doesn't mean that I don't pour you a cup of link juice, it just means that you don't get to drink it

The link juice allotted to a no-follow link is discounted from the total juice of the page just as if it were a "do-follow" unaltered link.

Also, the shares are not equal: the higher up on the page that your link appears the more juice it pulls as compared to links that are lower on the page. The top left of the page is the most desirable spot while the bottom right would be the least desirable, as a link there would receive less juice than any other link on the page.

So yes is CNN a high PR place to get a link? Absolutely. Is it a good traffic source? It has the potential to be a great traffic source for sure. But just knowing that being in the top left spot of 5 OBLs on a PR6 will probably pass more juice than being at the bottom of 200 OBLs on a PR9 page will help you put things in perspective.

Edit: Should add also that Google spiders are said to only follow the first 150 OBLs on page, with some exceptional pages getting up to 250 followed. Food for thought too.

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEODollz

Pretty easy to test this for yourself if you have the time, but it has been tested extensively if you don't. Link juice is divided between all of the OBL on the page, that includes navigational links that lead to other pages on the same sites and it also includes no-follow links. Just because I no-follow a link to your site on my page doesn't mean that I don't pour you a cup of link juice, it just means that you don't get to drink it

The link juice allotted to a no-follow link is discounted from the total juice of the page just as if it were a "do-follow" unaltered link.

Also, the shares are not equal: the higher up on the page that your link appears the more juice it pulls as compared to links that are lower on the page. The top left of the page is the most desirable spot while the bottom right would be the least desirable, as a link there would receive less juice than any other link on the page.

Is there a source where you read this? Thanks by the way for responding.

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jinx1221

11 years ago

Here's from my favorite seo guru:

How many links per page?

(let the booooo's commence

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GGpaul 11 years ago

Originally Posted by jinx1221

Here's from my favorite seo guru:

How many links per page?

(let the booooo's commence )

Hey man at least it's not from source-wave.com (Alex Becker) . I'll take this over source-wave any day. LOL. Thanks bro.
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SEODollz

11 years ago

Here you go, a oldie but a goodie from Moz. Chose it for the pictures

oh and because it talks about all the different factors that can affect how much juice or "value" a link passes.

All Links are Not Created Equal: 10 Illustrations - Moz

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by SEODollz

Here you go, a oldie but a goodie from Moz. Chose it for the pictures

oh and because it talks about all the different factors that can affect how much juice or "value" a link passes.

All Links are Not Created Equal: 10 Illustrations - Moz

I won't bother picking that whole article apart but this (below) is just nonsense.

External Links are More Influential than Internal Links

Moz is so anal about their DIY metrics, their proof was their own DIY metric (mozrank (fail)).

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GGpaul

11 years ago

Good sources. Thanks folks. I really appreciate it.

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