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Buying High PR Domains to Sell Links

by izigman
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Hey Warriors,

I'd like to snag a few high PR sites with the main purpose of setting up a link-selling service, and I gots a question:

Is it better to look for PR0-N/A sites with great link profiles, or stick with PR3+ sites with OK link profiles?

My first instinct is to stick with the PR3+ sites. It seems that it would be easier to sell to a potential client. "Hey, I have a relevant PR3 site that I'm selling links on, you can see the PR for yourself. Check it out!"

Seems to me that this would be an easier sell than, "Hey, I know it says PR0, but with this link profile it will most likely be a PR4 when Google updates the public PageRank again."

Am I right in my thinking here?
#buying #domains #high #links #sell
  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Who would buy a PRn/a link on a random site/page that doesn't have anything to offer?
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    • Profile picture of the author izigman
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Who would buy a PRn/a link on a random site/page that doesn't have anything to offer?
      That's kinda what I'm thinking.

      I'm not really talking about just some random PRN/A site though.

      I'm talking about a PRN/A one with a really strong link profile (tons of good relevant links, tons of referring domains, non-optimized anchor text, etc.) that I would make relevant to whatever niche.

      Would it be worth it to pick one of those up, or should I just stick with searching for already-established PR3+ sites with not-as-strong link profiles?
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by izigman View Post

        I'm talking about a PRN/A one with a really strong link profile (tons of good relevant links, tons of referring domains, non-optimized anchor text, etc.) that I would make relevant to whatever niche.
        A buyer isn't going to want to check the link profile, especially when PRn/a is advertised. Not that I would want anyone checking my link profiles.

        Sounds like a difficult sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author CharlesL
    You're right. Most people will only buy PR3s and above.
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  • Profile picture of the author izigman
    Thanks Charles, I'll stick to what I'm doing then. Maybe I'll grab a good-link-profile PR0 or two for my own personal SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author izigman
    Yeah yukon, that's what I thought. Thanks for taking the time to respond, I appreciate it!
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    I can tell you that there are very few PR n/a domains with solid back link profiles.

    It means either three things:

    - Google reset the site to PR n/a at some point and never put it back, this could've happened during changing hosts where the domain was idle for too long

    - A long time dropped domain that hasn't got the chance to hit the PR as there was no update, heck I know of domains that should be PR3 cause of multiple PR4-PR5 back links but even after 3 Google PR updates it didn't get the PR it deserved

    - It gained the PR in the last 7-10 months or so as there haven't been any PR updates, quite unlikely that it gains it in the last 7-10 months and expires in the same year, although not impossible, perhaps it belonged to some yearly event.

    Deindexed domains also show as PR n/a.
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    • Profile picture of the author BuyExpiredDomains
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      I can tell you that there are very few PR n/a domains with solid back link profiles.

      It means either three things:

      - Google reset the site to PR n/a at some point and never put it back, this could've happened during changing hosts where the domain was idle for too long

      - A long time dropped domain that hasn't got the chance to hit the PR as there was no update, heck I know of domains that should be PR3 cause of multiple PR4-PR5 back links but even after 3 Google PR updates it didn't get the PR it deserved

      - It gained the PR in the last 7-10 months or so as there haven't been any PR updates, quite unlikely that it gains it in the last 7-10 months and expires in the same year, although not impossible, perhaps it belonged to some yearly event.

      Deindexed domains also show as PR n/a.
      I'd have to agree with this. If the domain has such a strong linking profile why is it PR n/a? I'd stick to the higher PRs and work on the linking profile if you need to.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bambu
        While higher PR domains will be easier sells and command higher prices, you will still be able to sell backlinks on high PA/DA low PR domains, albeit at lower prices. These domains can usually be picked up at a lower prices so you ROI can still be pretty good.

        Now most of the time, these types of domains are heavily SEO'd. So, don't expect them to have a clean/good backlink profile.

        I have seen these types of links for sale here and there and they can be decent sellers (especially domains with PA/DA > 60).
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by BuyExpiredDomains View Post

        I'd have to agree with this. If the domain has such a strong linking profile why is it PR n/a? I'd stick to the higher PRs and work on the linking profile if you need to.
        Why in the world would someone buy a high PR domain to work on the linking profile? Anyone buying or not buying domains on PR now is crazy. Sites with links will have juice and their PR comes back if the link source pages are being recrawled. Ton loads of people have bought N/as that came back proving the fact. If they are not getting recrawled because of age or deepness in a site's architecture then its fairly easy to get them recrawled.

        If the domain has n/a I won't use it for client because am not sure of it's PR.

        Well you wouldn't use it to sell links on - thats for sure
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Why in the world would someone buy a high PR domain to work on the linking profile? Anyone buying or not buying domains on PR now is crazy. Sites with links will have juice and their PR comes back if the link source pages are being recrawled. Ton loads of people have bought N/as that came back proving the fact.
          Yeah expired domains which retain decent, authoritative links WILL regain their juice-passing abilities once recrawled - I'm testing exactly that and it works.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by BuyExpiredDomains View Post

        I'd have to agree with this. If the domain has such a strong linking profile why is it PR n/a? I'd stick to the higher PRs and work on the linking profile if you need to.
        You completely miss my point but whatever.
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  • Profile picture of the author veekay31
    Best is to go for domains that still retain PR and have a good link profile. After roll out of penguin 2 , relevance of high PR links is a factor that Google uses. So best would be to have high PR domains in the big 3-4 evergreen niches.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Its funny how people who are suppose to be specialist ask questions they should ordinarily know and what value do you intend to offer your buyers with a n/a sites or excessive OBL.

    You are most likely going to find yourself in the wrong business with lots of refund request and negative feedbacks.

    If the domain has n/a I won't use it for client because am not sure of it's PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author clarkfaint
    Still that requires Google updating the tool bar PR. Which they are in no hurry to do these days.

    So the site will pass great link juice, but most links are still being sold primarily on the merits of tool bar PR versus projected PR.
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  • Profile picture of the author GyuMan82
    Even though PR may be goin out the window, I think you'd be hard pressed to sell links from PR0's with "good link profiles" to anybody.

    When it comes to link purchases, people still look at PR even though it hasnt been updated in a while.
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  • Profile picture of the author jcorkern
    It's been a while since this thread was active, but wanted to comment. I have many(over 100) sites with PR0 that I found as expired and not bought through auction, if I have a couple months before the next PR update, they usually get their PR back if you treat them right.

    I have ranked very stout niches with sites that had no visible PR on them at all. I always use them for clients and have never failed a manual review.

    If a customer is so inclined to not let me use my sites to rank them, then their competitor will, no skin off me. I never buy from auctions, you can bet Google will tag auction domains sooner or later.
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