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Google Expired Domain Penalty Question

by dreamtoreality
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Taking into account that the expired domain only points to your money site and does not link to any other sites in your network, what would happen? Would Google just devalue the links, enabling you to purchase another expired domain so you can do the same again, or would they penalise the money site? This hasn't actually happened, it's just hypothetical.

What about if you purchased 3 expired domains, hosted them all on one account, but they all pointed to different money sites with each money site being hosted with different companies? You also need to take into account that the money sites are all linked to one webmaster tools account.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Not sure what you are talking about. Theres no such thing as an expired domain penalty. Domains expire all the time and are renewed by other people months or yeas later. Quit often by the same person if the site is not picked up.

    The whole dropped domain thing is a total myth. The only penalty an expired domain gets is if it loses links due to being expired (webmasters remove them). If thats not the case then there is absolutely no penalty.

    Now if you are talking about a site that got red flagged for spam or deindexed before it was expired then thats another issue.
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    • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post


      The whole dropped domain thing is a total myth. The only penalty an expired domain gets is if it loses links due to being expired (webmasters remove them). If thats not the case then there is absolutely no penalty.
      I found this domain name through scrapebox that seems to have a good backlink profile, DA of 35 and PA of 45, but the only thing is that when I do site:websitename.com nothing comes up. I'm guessing that this is because the site has not been live for a year (wayback machine shows an ecommerce site a year ago). PR is also N/A, although I think that happens when a site is no longer indexed. Is it worth buying these types of domains (only $12), and what is the likelihood that they will be indexed again?
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
        Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

        I found this domain name through scrapebox that seems to have a good backlink profile, DA of 35 and PA of 45, but the only thing is that when I do site:websitename.com nothing comes up. I'm guessing that this is because the site has not been live for a year (wayback machine shows an ecommerce site a year ago). PR is also N/A, although I think that happens when a site is no longer indexed. Is it worth buying these types of domains (only $12), and what is the likelihood that they will be indexed again?
        If the ecommerce sites seems legit and the backlinks are genuinely still in place then I would imagine it would get indexed again fairly quickly.

        I have bought lots of completely expired domains (some have been dead for years) and the majority get reindexed - a few have remained stubbornly unindexed but I've later realised that they had been previously used for a directory or autoblog for example (I now know better and make sure I check for this and more).
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    Your being paranoid because your being cheap. Stop being so damn cheap and pay the few $$$ extra to have them on seperate accounts, IPs etc... If not...stay paranoid.

    Peace of mind is priceless to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    Mike, what I meant was what would happen to your money site if Google found that you were building links artificially through an expired domain? They might devalue the links to your money site, but would your money site be penalised? Or would your site just lose rankings because it lost backlinks?

    Kevin, it's not a matter of being cheap. As I've survived several updates with no issues I've always thought that this was a safe way of doing things, and I've heard others say that having each domain on a separate account is overkill. However, I suppose that if I truly want to be safe then what I'm doing isn't the best way of doing things, so I will sort things out within the next few days.
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    • Profile picture of the author Samuel Adams
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      Mike, what I meant was what would happen to your money site if Google found that you were building links artificially through an expired domain? They might devalue the links to your money site, but would your money site be penalised? Or would your site just lose rankings because it lost backlinks?

      Kevin, it's not a matter of being cheap. As I've survived several updates with no issues I've always thought that this was a safe way of doing things, and I've heard others say that having each domain on a separate account is overkill. However, I suppose that if I truly want to be safe then what I'm doing isn't the best way of doing things, so I will sort things out within the next few days.
      Do whatever makes you feel most comfortable with your SEO even if some label it as 'too cautious'. So long as you are not actually violating any Google TOS for content or backlinking practices, you should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    What about if you purchased 3 expired domains, hosted them all on one account
    No, get separate accounts for each of the domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

    Taking into account that the expired domain only points to your money site and does not link to any other sites in your network, what would happen?
    Basically, that's what you should do..

    If done well, you should experience a positive ranking in 1 to 21days..

    Would Google just devalue the links, enabling you to purchase another expired domain so you can do the same again, or would they penalise the money site? This hasn't actually happened, it's just hypothetical.
    If you keep it secret or set it up efficiently no one is ever going to find out..

    And if you blow your cover, there goes your network.

    What about if you purchased 3 expired domains, hosted them all on one account, but they all pointed to different money sites with each money site being hosted with different companies? You also need to take into account that the money sites are all linked to one webmaster tools account.
    Why can't it be the way round.. The money site hosted under one IP and the networks hosted differently.

    You can actually have one account and have different C-Class Hosting.

    It's safer to keep the networks on different server though.
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    Some good replies here. I forgot to state one vital thing though. I typically purchase an expired domain and point it to a single money site. I don't link any of the expired domains together, so what I do isn't really considered a network. Some people may say that this is an inefficient and bad way of doing things, but I do it because I typically only purchase PR 3 & 4 domains (I don't need much link juice for the keywords I target, thus the way I do things isn't that expensive in the grand scheme of things) and I want to be on the safe side, although I now realise I may not be as safe as I thought.

    Here's an example:

    Bluehost

    Expired Domain 1
    Expired Domain 2
    Expired Domain 3

    Crocweb

    Expired Domain 4
    Expired Domain 5
    Expired Domain 6

    Hostgator

    Money Site 1 (Links from Expired Domain 1 & 4)

    Stablehost

    Money Site 2 (Links from Expired Domain 2 & 5)

    Downtownhost

    Money Site 3 (Links from Expired Domain 3 & 6)

    Webmaster Tools

    Money Site 1
    Money Site 2
    Money Site 3

    Actually, that's not set in stone. The better expired domains tend to be on their own host.
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    I just had a look at all of the expired domains I've bought. There's definitely a few gems in there, but there's also a fair few rubbish ones. Is it even worth having these crappy ones on their own hosting? I mean, we're talking about domains with one PR4, 3 and 2 pointing to them, or just a few PR2s.
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    • Profile picture of the author PathofLeastResistance
      Here is a tip: Don't waste your time wondering what Google might do

      You'll go nowhere

      Do want you want, if Google changes their Algo - which they will no matter what you do, just adapt your strategy. What you do today probably won't work 2-3 years from now so make your profit fast and exit.
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