My prospect wanna dominate search with mini sites, is it still possible?

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Hi all,

I have a prospect who is a plastic surgeon. He is pretty savvy with marketing and has plans to dominate the search engine with mini sites that talks about his key services.

I know in the past, mini sites works if you target very specific keywords. But it has been awhile and I am not sure if this strategy still work.

We are not planning to build thin sites. We are just trying to see if it's possible to build 1 site for1 service.

Any feedback?
#dominate #mini #prospect #search #sites #wanna
  • Profile picture of the author MaxAdvocate
    You can definitely dominate in local listings. It's still possible, though it takes time and patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author veekay31
    You can dominate local search listings if you can come up with content that is valued by the customers and attracts natural links. Quality content and natural links is the norm now.
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    • Profile picture of the author irulic
      Originally Posted by veekay31 View Post

      You can dominate local search listings if you can come up with content that is valued by the customers and attracts natural links. Quality content and natural links is the norm now.
      very agree, valued by the customers is the point
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  • Profile picture of the author Nytshade
    With strong PR4+ backlinks you can do it, yes with a mini site. A lot of people who will tell you that PR is no longer relevant to Google "may be right" but high PR backlinks are working for me.

    So to quickly answer your question - YES, if you know what you're doing!

    This is not relevant to your question but I just want to get this out there... I don't follow Matt Cutts or read about the latest update or what Google is saying about PR, backlinks etc. I do my own tests! If Matt Cutts' info was legit then a lot of people would have good rankings, that guy's job is to create fear and illusion so people don't outsmart their search engine

    So warriors, DON'T FOLLOW THE HYPE!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by Nytshade View Post

      With strong PR4+ backlinks you can do it, yes with a mini site. A lot of people who will tell you that PR is no longer relevant to Google "may be right" but high PR backlinks are working for me.

      So to quickly answer your question - YES, if you know what you're doing!

      This is not relevant to your question but I just want to get this out there... I don't follow Matt Cutts or read about the latest update or what Google is saying about PR, backlinks etc. I do my own tests! If Matt Cutts' info was legit then a lot of people would have good rankings, that guy's job is to create fear and illusion so people don't outsmart their search engine

      So warriors, DON'T FOLLOW THE HYPE!
      What HYPE?

      The PR toolbar has not been updated for almost a year. Do you eat Eggs 9 months after their use-by-date ?

      Your PR4 could be a PR0, your PR1 could be a PR5.

      You might as well not look at anything really. Grab the darts out and start throwing, its all good right?

      @OP
      I think your Plastic Surgeon is smoking Botox.

      If he wants lets say 30 mini sites, one for each service. Why doe he not just have one big authority site with 30 categories?
      Or
      1 main authority site with a 29 site PBN to make it an authority site.

      Seems what hes thinking is anti-savvy if you ask me.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        1 main authority site with a 29 site PBN to make it an authority site.
        Just do this here & be done with it.

        Having an authority site with a small network of same niche sites all targeting same/similar keywords makes for easier long term SEO. All the sites in the same niche network feed off each other (relevant links).

        LMAO at smoking BOTOX.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nytshade
        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        What HYPE?

        The PR toolbar has not been updated for almost a year. Do you eat Eggs 9 months after their use-by-date ?

        Your PR4 could be a PR0, your PR1 could be a PR5.

        You might as well not look at anything really. Grab the darts out and start throwing, its all good right?
        Next time when you read, don't rush. Make sure you understand! High PR backlinks are "WORKING FOR ME" when compared to any backlinks! I only build 3 to 5 backlinks for my niche markets and rank high I don't have 10000 backlinks!

        Hype is following what the whole industry is saying. Just like what you said... "Your PR4 could be a PR0, your PR1 could be a PR5."

        I don't even know what that means, I don't know what Panda, Penguin, Hummingbird does and I don't care. All I know is what works, period!
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      • Profile picture of the author Student78
        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        1 main authority site with a 29 site PBN to make it an authority site.
        Does PBN stand for 'Performance Based Navigation'?

        Appologies but I am who I say I am
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Originally Posted by fated82 View Post

    Hi all,

    I have a prospect who is a plastic surgeon. He is pretty savvy with marketing and has plans to dominate the search engine with mini sites that talks about his key services.
    ROTFLMAO! He should try and be a savvy plastic surgeon....

    I can't imagine a real plastic surgeon even talking about search engine
    domination.

    Where on earth do you people live?

    Sometimes I think you people make stuff up just to show you have
    fake clients or something. Cuz this whole plastic surgeon as a prospective
    client, marketing savvy, search engine domination is just nonsense.

    If he really was a plastic surgeon and had marketing savvy,well, you people
    fill in the rest. No way would this chap ever even think about such crapola.

    Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author dennis09
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      this whole plastic surgeon as a prospective
      client, marketing savvy, search engine domination is just nonsense.
      Paul
      Why wouldn't he want to rank for his industry keywords? That's like saying it's nonsense for Apple to want to rank for smartphones. :rolleyes:

      To the OP the question isn't whether or not its possible, because it definitely is. You should be asking whether or not the mini sites would be more viable vs just targeting them all on 1 site. Better yet, if he's serious about "domination", then do both.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

        Why wouldn't he want to rank for his industry keywords? That's like saying it's nonsense for Apple to want to rank for smartphones. :rolleyes:
        Man, if you think real plastic surgeons do that, you are too far gone.

        First of all, plastic surgeons cannot handle an infinite amount of customers.
        And the rest of the explanation is just logic. Nobody who is a real
        doctor is going to worry about SEO. Period.

        I can't even begin to fathom where this nonsense comes from. But you see it
        time and time again.

        Do you really think the doctor with the best SEO wins?!?!?!

        Lunacy on a whole new level.

        Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author dennis09
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Man, if you think real plastic surgeons do that, you are too far gone.

          First of all, plastic surgeons cannot handle an infinite amount of customers.
          And the rest of the explanation is just logic.
          The way you jumped to that BS conclusion on the basis of him being a plastic surgeon is whats lunacy. You think he blows a magic whistle and women come begging for new tits? Real world plastic surgeons market their practice just as other businesses do. There's no infinite number of customers standing in line, and clinics that do see higher volume schedule in advance on this thing we call a calendar. It not like the dollar store where you just walk in and walk right back out with the goods.

          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Nobody who is a real
          doctor is going to worry about SEO. Period.
          lol Cmon Paul, numbers don't lie just look at the SERPS(plastic surgery). I guess in fantasy land those don't count as real doctors right? :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author packerfan
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Man, if you think real plastic surgeons do that, you are too far gone.

          First of all, plastic surgeons cannot handle an infinite amount of customers.
          And the rest of the explanation is just logic. Nobody who is a real
          doctor is going to worry about SEO. Period.

          I can't even begin to fathom where this nonsense comes from. But you see it
          time and time again.

          Do you really think the doctor with the best SEO wins?!?!?!

          Lunacy on a whole new level.

          Paul
          So plastic surgeons should include SEO in their lead generation strategy? I disagree, BUT... there is only one way to know.

          Like all marketing the truth lies in the testing. Let's assume they have an online marketing budget that's intended to generate leads. X% should be for paid and X% for SEO. Then they can evaluate ROI and figure out which works best for them.

          And even though they don't have infinite customers, they do have customers that are more profitable than others. By targeting those customers they can increase the profitability of their practice.

          Back to napping for me...
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  • Profile picture of the author ViralMediaBoost
    In the end it will work for you but you have to take time and have patience if you want to rank highly with these kind of sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
    Originally Posted by fated82 View Post

    He is pretty savvy with marketing and has plans to dominate the search engine with mini sites that talks about his key services.
    Marketing savvy =/= Internet Marketing savvy. In my experience, pretty much a direct and proportional opposite! It's not their fault, internet marketing is a different and often opposite beast than non-internet marketing. But I can see where plastic surgeons are in a different marketing frame of mind than other surgeons.. lots of competition, especially if they happen to be in Beverly Hills.

    So, let me guess.. he wants to set up something like www.bestbreastenlargementsurgeons.com and showcase breast enlargement pictures and articles with links and banners to his homepage, and do the same with www.bestpenisenlargementsurgeons.com and do the same, for all 500 different procedures that he does? I would talk him into just one big site with several pages, and after that he can work on directing mini-site type links towards those inner pages.
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    PR is sooo 2009...
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    • Profile picture of the author Nytshade
      Originally Posted by stodog77 View Post

      PR is sooo 2009...
      My high PR network is working for me and my clients just fine. Do you have one that you've tested or you're just assuming high PR backlinking is so 2009?
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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by Nytshade View Post

        My high PR network is working for me and my clients just fine. Do you have one that you've tested or you're just assuming high PR backlinking is so 2009?
        I hear fb likes are all the rage these days but don't worry ill help you catch up. Ill trade 5000 fb likes for every valid PR5 you wanna get rid of. Scouts promise.
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      • Profile picture of the author stodog77
        Originally Posted by Nytshade View Post

        My high PR network is working for me and my clients just fine. Do you have one that you've tested or you're just assuming high PR backlinking is so 2009?
        It was a joke, but yes, I have my own networks. Looking at a site's value purely from a "PR" perspective is a bad approach. You can have a high PR site that is penalized or passes zero authority and can hurt you, so you have to look at other variables as well. There are much better factors such as DA (domain authority) and PA (page authority). There are other factors you can measure as well. I always look at the sites link profile, anchor diversification, their Alexa ranking (does the site actually get traffic?), their overall ranking (does the site rank? If it does most likely there is value there) etc..
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        • Profile picture of the author Nytshade
          Originally Posted by stodog77 View Post

          It was a joke, but yes, I have my own networks. Looking at a site's value purely from a "PR" perspective is a bad approach. You can have a high PR site that is penalized or passes zero authority and can hurt you, so you have to look at other variables as well. There are much better factors such as DA (domain authority) and PA (page authority). There are other factors you can measure as well. I always look at the sites link profile, anchor diversification, their Alexa ranking (does the site actually get traffic?), their overall ranking (does the site rank? If it does most likely there is value there) etc..
          haha... cool. Yep I totally agree, but I was not saying PR is the only thing you have to look at. Obviously there's lots of factors...
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Here's what you said highlighted.

        Originally Posted by Nytshade View Post

        With strong PR4+ backlinks you can do it, yes with a mini site. A lot of people who will tell you that PR is no longer relevant to Google "may be right" but high PR backlinks are working for me.
        The PR toolbar has not been updated since the beginning of the year. PR is based on "Inbound Links" to a page. Those inbound links would have naturally changed in number and strength across every webpage online since the last PR update.

        This makes the usage of the PR toolbar "useless" to determine the strength of "all" webpages.

        Originally Posted by Nytshade View Post

        Hype is following what the whole industry is saying. Just like what you said... "Your PR4 could be a PR0, your PR1 could be a PR5."
        I don't even know what that means,
        I don't know what Panda, Penguin, Hummingbird does and I don't care. All I know is what works, period!
        Interesting, lets read on.

        Originally Posted by Nytshade View Post

        Yep I totally agree, but I was not saying PR is the only thing you have to look at. Obviously there's lots of factors..
        Here's where you realized you got caught out talking crap and tried backtrack on your first statement about PR. Claiming now its not only PR, but other factors too.

        Originally Posted by Nytshade View Post

        My high PR network is working for me and my clients just fine. Do you have one that you've tested or you're just assuming high PR backlinking is so 2009?
        Interesting, you have a network and you have clients. But to quote you from earlier

        Originally Posted by Nytshade View Post

        I don't even know what that means,
        I don't know what Panda does
        I don't know what Penguin does
        I don't know what Hummingbird does.
        And I don't care.
        And yet you have a Blog network and SEO clients. hmmm?

        Did someone forget to flush the toilet? because there's a serious smell of bullshit in here.

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  • Profile picture of the author venchito14
    It is more efficient to create one authority site that covers all the services your client is rendering to his target audience rather than just buying domains and targeting those sites for each of your keyword.

    It will be confusing for people when they see that you have several sites - but is only about one brand. This will just decrease the chances of getting them link to you. Don't only focus on rankings, aim for branding/authority for the site (do real marketing!).

    For the other side, you can create a mini site (but one at a time)..look at how Affilorama created his mini site (Traffic Travis)..both the sites gain traffic and deserve to become authority in the niche since both sites provide value to the community.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Yeap, very much possible IF you build the right kinds of links.

    I have been able to rank new sites in 2 months using only 6-7 links. Many of the times, they are outranking very established websites with minimum effort.

    The key?

    Really high quality inbound links.
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