My website is penalized by Google. Is it okay to start a new website on the same hosting account?

by edanb
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Hi guys,

For the past 8 months my website has been penalized by Google (I think Penguin penalty). The website has good quality content and I never built any spam links to it, but there you go. I have been trying to revive it but my rankings only get worse.

Anyway, I want to start a completely new website, and I have some questions:

1) Is it okay to use the same hosting account for the new website, or will that get my new website penalized too?

2) If I use a different hosting for the new site, should I also use different domain whois, adsense, gmail, etc so Google won't know that the websites are connected? Or it doesn't matter that they are connected in Googles eyes. I'm just thinking that if Google sees me as a "spammer" then any website I build will be seen as spam right away.

3) Is it possible to use content from my old website on my new website? I don't mean by using 301 redirect, but rather by removing the page from the old website, getting it out of Google's index (make sure by searching for it), and once it's out, put it on the new website. Or will this pass on the penalty, or be considered duplicate content or something?

Thanks for your help, this whole thing is very confusing to me so I appreciate it! Also, please link to sources for your information if you know of any!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisDouthit
    Are you sure your site has been penalized and not just a low rank? If you have not built poor quality links to it I find it odd that you would receive a penalty. Have you looked into any on site SEO issues?

    Google understands people use shared hosting and does not usually penalize other sites on the same server. If however the server is filled with sites all receiving penalty then that might be a different story.

    I would first recommend you try to figure out why you got the penalty to begin with. I would hate for you to go through the trouble of setting up this site all over again only to receive the same penalty if it is some sort of onsite issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author james85x
    Just delete the old content from Googles index, before transferring into new site, then you're good to go. Webmasters tools -> Delete anything you have attached there. GL!
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    • Profile picture of the author edanb
      Chris, I think my site was penalized. I started it in December 2012 and traffic was going up steadily until March 2013. Then suddenly it started going down, about the time of the Penguin update. Since then traffic has never gone up at all, and any new posts on the website never rank for anything. I have been putting up new content since then, and the pages never rank past page 3 (even for keywords which should be very easy to rank). So I think I am penalized.

      If its an on-site issue then I am stumped what it can be. My website is top(blah)10(blah)zen(dot)com (remove the (blah)). Maybe you can take a look?
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelra
    I have a similar situation like yours.. ever since December 2012 (or so) and especially around February 2013 onwards, traffic steadily went down hill
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  • Profile picture of the author submitinme
    Originally Posted by edanb View Post

    Hi guys,

    For the past 8 months my website has been penalized by Google (I think Penguin penalty). The website has good quality content and I never built any spam links to it, but there you go. I have been trying to revive it but my rankings only get worse.

    Anyway, I want to start a completely new website, and I have some questions:

    1) Is it okay to use the same hosting account for the new website, or will that get my new website penalized too?

    2) If I use a different hosting for the new site, should I also use different domain whois, adsense, gmail, etc so Google won't know that the websites are connected? Or it doesn't matter that they are connected in Googles eyes. I'm just thinking that if Google sees me as a "spammer" then any website I build will be seen as spam right away.

    3) Is it possible to use content from my old website on my new website? I don't mean by using 301 redirect, but rather by removing the page from the old website, getting it out of Google's index (make sure by searching for it), and once it's out, put it on the new website. Or will this pass on the penalty, or be considered duplicate content or something?

    Thanks for your help, this whole thing is very confusing to me so I appreciate it! Also, please link to sources for your information if you know of any!
    Hi

    I hope that you have done the following things before thinking of starting a brand new website.

    1. Go to your webmasters tool and see whether you've received any manual penalty. I hope that won't be the case as you've mentioned that you haven't built any spammy links. But remember that even if you haven't created backlinks, your competitor may have paid someone to build spammy links to your site.
    2. If there is no such manual action, then there may be penguin algorithmic action. You have mentioned that you find a steep decrease in traffic after the penguin update. So there may be a algorithmic penalty.

    3. Go to your webmasters tool and from "links to your site" download all the recent links. Then look at each links manually and categorize them as good and bad.

    4. If you have received a manual penalty, then it is mandatory that you contact the webmasters of these badlinks and ask them to remove the link.

    5. If its just an algorithmic action, prepare a disavow file with respect to Google guidelines.

    6. If you believe that it's just an algorithmic penalty, just upload this disavow file to Google.

    7. If there's manual action, you have to send a detailed reconsideration request to Google explaining the steps that you have taken to remove these bad links and your steps to disavow them.

    There are several cases that Google has revoked the manual action to websites and websites have got the initial rank and traffic. So give it a try before thinking of building a brand new site.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Without knowing the URL no one can possibly help you.
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  • Profile picture of the author bodimv1
    it is OK, just make the site better.
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  • Profile picture of the author palmer9999
    Originally Posted by edanb View Post

    Hi guys,

    For the past 8 months my website has been penalized by Google (I think Penguin penalty). The website has good quality content and I never built any spam links to it, but there you go. I have been trying to revive it but my rankings only get worse.

    Anyway, I want to start a completely new website, and I have some questions:

    1) Is it okay to use the same hosting account for the new website, or will that get my new website penalized too?

    2) If I use a different hosting for the new site, should I also use different domain whois, adsense, gmail, etc so Google won't know that the websites are connected? Or it doesn't matter that they are connected in Googles eyes. I'm just thinking that if Google sees me as a "spammer" then any website I build will be seen as spam right away.

    3) Is it possible to use content from my old website on my new website? I don't mean by using 301 redirect, but rather by removing the page from the old website, getting it out of Google's index (make sure by searching for it), and once it's out, put it on the new website. Or will this pass on the penalty, or be considered duplicate content or something?

    Thanks for your help, this whole thing is very confusing to me so I appreciate it! Also, please link to sources for your information if you know of any!
    So your website got penalized even thought you did absolutely nothing wrong? You don't get penalized for that long. Either your content is poor, low quality links, poorly optimized site or just bad SEO in general. If you keep writing quality content you won't need to worry about making a new site!

    Fix your current site, analyse, build links and correct everything! Don't bother with a new site wasting your time!
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