Recovery by removing bad links

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Has anyone here who has been hit by an algorithmic penalty successfully recovered by removing the bad links?

Any thoughts?

Thanks
#bad #links #recovery #removing
  • Profile picture of the author michaelra
    I'm still struggling with this so unfortunately I can't give any comment as of yet (still busy trying to identify and remove low quality links to see if they have any effect)
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  • Profile picture of the author DizenSounds
    Yes I have. However algo penalties take longer to recover than manual penalties.

    How are you removing links? Are you using a service?

    I tried removing links myself and wasted way to much time on it. These days a top notch service can be had for a fraction of what your time is worth.
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    • Profile picture of the author submitinme
      Originally Posted by DizenSounds View Post

      Yes I have. However algo penalties take longer to recover than manual penalties.

      How are you removing links? Are you using a service?

      I tried removing links myself and wasted way to much time on it. These days a top notch service can be had for a fraction of what your time is worth.
      Yes, as you have mentioned algorithmic penalties take a much longer time to recover as we don't get a definitive message from Google. But you can see the traffic slowly gaining momentum. In case of Manual penalty, once it is revoked, you get a message from Google that the penalty is revoked. Even in this case, it takes a bit of time to reach the old rankings.

      Yeah. Doing backlink audit and removal as an individual is really a tedious job. The auditing part itself takes hell a lot of time if you haven't streamlined a process.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by DizenSounds View Post

      Yes I have. However algo penalties take longer to recover than manual penalties.

      How are you removing links? Are you using a service?

      I tried removing links myself and wasted way to much time on it. These days a top notch service can be had for a fraction of what your time is worth.
      I still have to run into the first top notch service.

      Cemper tools is just as worthless, it wanted me to disavow a PR6 homepage link on an insane strong domain that pushed an insurance related keyword with 1000's of exact searches from the 3rd to the 1st page. Was the link very natural? Nope, but it did provide a huge boost in rankings.

      There's nothing wrong with having a few unnatural links and often those are the ones responsible for your rankings in the first place.
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      • Profile picture of the author DizenSounds
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I still have to run into the first top notch service.

        Cemper tools is just as worthless, it wanted me to disavow a PR6 homepage link on an insane strong domain that pushed an insurance related keyword with 1000's of exact searches from the 3rd to the 1st page. Was the link very natural? Nope, but it did provide a huge boost in rankings.

        There's nothing wrong with having a few unnatural links and often those are the ones responsible for your rankings in the first place.
        Ya cemper is a joke as is linkdetox, both services do very basic checks on the links to determine if a link is "bad". Then again those aren't link removal services those are link analysis tools, and grossly overpriced at that. I wouldn't trust either of those reports. Its quite shocking so many people use their services given what low quality they are.

        For the same price as a link removal service you only get an audit from them, lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by DizenSounds View Post

          Ya cemper is a joke as is linkdetox, both services do very basic checks on the links to determine if a link is "bad". Then again those aren't link removal services those are link analysis tools, and grossly overpriced at that. I wouldn't trust either of those reports. Its quite shocking so many people use their services given what low quality they are.

          For the same price as a link removal service you only get an audit from them, lol.
          It's insane how even many small SEO companies totally stare their selves blind at those audits, I've had numerous requests to remove solid back links, even after explaining they said I rather see them removed.

          Then weeks later they came back to me asking if I had new domains to buy links on cause their rankings dropped and they were dealing with pissed off clients.

          Conversation went a bit like this:

          SEO company: My clients dropped in rankings after cleaning up links, do you have new links for me?

          Me: You understand it will be the same type of links right?

          SEO company: Haven't you bought new domains, better ones?

          Me: Last time you wanted me to remove a PR6 homepage link, please define better

          SEO company: Yeah well, the Cemper Trust and Cemper Power weren't on the same line and that's a bad sign

          Me: The link worked wonders didn't it?

          SEO company: Yeah but the stats didn't add up

          Me: Clueless :confused:

          Nowadays it almost seems that when I want to purchase a domain that I first have to run it through Cemper to see if their stats/definition of link profile matches up lol, shouldn't get more ridiculous.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            It's insane how many small SEO companies totally depend on their audits, I've had numerous requests to remove solid back links, even after explaining they said I rather see them removed.

            Then weeks later they came back to me asking if I had new domains to buy links on cause their rankings dropped and they were dealing with pissed off clients.

            Conversation went a bit like this:

            SEO company: My clients dropped in rankings after cleaning up links, do you have new links for me?

            Me: You understand it will be the same type of links right?

            SEO company: Haven't you bought new domains, better ones?

            Me: Last time you wanted me to remove a PR6 homepage link, please define better

            SEO company: Yeah well, the Cemper Trust and Cemper Power weren't on the same line and that's a bad sign

            Me: The link worked wonders didn't it?

            SEO company: Yeah but the stats didn't add up

            Me: Clueless :confused:
            If they're that simple minded just create a new sub-domain & redirect the old PR6, tell them you have new domains/links, lol.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              If they're that simple minded just create a new sub-domain & redirect the old PR6, tell them you have new domains/links, lol.
              Thing is that the damn Detox tool gets promoted and recommended everywhere on the web, even by big supposed to be "authority" sites like Moz, SearchEngineJournal and what not.

              I guess it's all about money flowing around cause they had a pretty dominating campaign going. Couldn't visit a site or the damn detox banners showed up again.

              As long as you scream things hard enough people automatically start to believe it.
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          • Profile picture of the author DizenSounds
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            It's insane how even many small SEO companies totally stare their selves blind at those audits, I've had numerous requests to remove solid back links, even after explaining they said I rather see them removed.

            Then weeks later they came back to me asking if I had new domains to buy links on cause their rankings dropped and they were dealing with pissed off clients.

            Conversation went a bit like this:

            SEO company: My clients dropped in rankings after cleaning up links, do you have new links for me?

            Me: You understand it will be the same type of links right?

            SEO company: Haven't you bought new domains, better ones?

            Me: Last time you wanted me to remove a PR6 homepage link, please define better

            SEO company: Yeah well, the Cemper Trust and Cemper Power weren't on the same line and that's a bad sign

            Me: The link worked wonders didn't it?

            SEO company: Yeah but the stats didn't add up

            Me: Clueless :confused:

            Nowadays it almost seems that when I want to purchase a domain that I first have to run it through Cemper to see if their stats/definition of link profile matches up lol, shouldn't get more ridiculous.
            I can only imagine, when I was trying to hire an seo consultant or company to manage my sites at one time there wasn't a single one that knew more about SEO than I did. It's really a shame.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by DizenSounds View Post

              I can only imagine, when I was trying to hire an seo consultant or company to manage my sites at one time there wasn't a single one that knew more about SEO than I did. It's really a shame.
              It's pretty drastic indeed.

              I think it's cause most SEO companies aren't really interested in ranking sites but much more in selling other type of services like PPC management, social media marketing and perhaps press releases and web design. A press release obvious looks much more professional then a blog post at one of my sites lol, but in terms of rankings it does nothing.

              Lately I heard from someone that he went into a partnership with a let's call it "online marketing" company, he bragged a bit about 150+ clients and I was all excited. They subscribed about 15 of them to my monthly service and about 8 weeks later I asked: "Where are the other 135?". Turned out they only had a contract to manage their PPC and some other things. Bummer.
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  • Profile picture of the author kafiemon
    Yes, Finally I removed my site and one of my client's site from Google penalty. Just disavow bad link and reciprocal link. Then wait some several days. Actually, thousands of proposals are given to google for site recovery. So, it can time but its true that once your site would be recover. BEST OF LUCK.
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    • Profile picture of the author michaelra
      Originally Posted by kafiemon View Post

      Yes, Finally I removed my site and one of my client's site from Google penalty. Just disavow bad link and reciprocal link. Then wait some several days. Actually, thousands of proposals are given to google for site recovery. So, it can time but its true that once your site would be recover. BEST OF LUCK.
      A few days after? That's amazing. I hope I can get my blog back to its glorious days
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    For those that are in this position and want some help, I do a full service backlink cleanup/disavow service.

    If you're interested, get in touch.

    It's not cheap, but it will be done right.
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    • Profile picture of the author JMantis
      Can someone, who has an experience with removing bad back links, take a look at this picture and tell me if any of these links can be considered as a bad backlinks? Is it true that even one backlink can affect my website significantly?


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