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A blog Post has the same PR as its Domain

by Dokemion
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I really don't give much attention on PageRank at the same I don't ignore it since it's still existing and Google still update sites PR I will take it to consideration that it still plays an important role.

In hierarchical link order a site's domain will always have a higher PR on all its Pages/Posts. (e.g example.c0m has PR 5 - example.c0m/pages has PR 3 - example.c0m/blog/posts Blog post has PR 2). - You know what I'm taking about..

Last December 5/6, 2013 (Depends on your country), Google decided to update Site's PR (Mutt Cutts is a level 1.5 Master of Disguise )

Just yesterday, I was navigating through my client blog posts. I decided to do run down routine check on anything and everything and I suddenly got stuck in confusion when I notice that 1 particular blog post link has the same PageRank as that of its Domain. In shock I did a PR Check and also decided to ask my client if the PageRank I'm seeing on one of our blog post is the same and the result of the PR Check I did. In my years of SEO I haven't experience this and I haven't heard nor read about this. (Probably because I am not putting much attention on PR, I suddenly became an outdated SEO Specialist or I'm still too naive on my profession. Either of this it's still a good knowledge gained and I'm sharing this here.)

Please don't get me wrong and try to read first to avoid arguments as it is really hard for me to convey what I really want to say as English is not my native tongue and sleep deprivation is consuming a lot of my energy.

Hopefully I can hear some of your thoughts. I know a critic will reply and will say bla bla bla bla..
#blog #domain #post
  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by Dokemion View Post

    In hierarchical link order a site's domain will always have a higher PR on all its Pages/Posts. (e.g example.c0m has PR 5 - example.c0m/pages has PR 3 - example.c0m/blog/posts Blog post has PR 2). - You know what I'm taking about.

    This is completely untrue. Internal pages often have a higher PR than the root domain of a site. It's all about links.
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    • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      This is completely untrue. Internal pages often have a higher PR than the root domain of a site. It's all about links.
      What Mike said. The blog post is getting the majority of the links, not the homepage. The homepage is getting it's PR from the blog post.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Surprising you have never seen this before. Its EXTREMELY common. Maybe less so for internet marketers that only place their own links. A good post or content can get direct links straight to that page more than the home page and therefore give it a HIGHER PR than the home page. See it all the time.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Surprising you have never seen this before. Its EXTREMELY common. Maybe less so for internet marketers that only place their own links. A good post or content can get direct links straight to that page more than the home page and therefore give it a HIGHER PR than the home page. See it all the time.
          Surprisingly you don't know that I already know what you are saying despite the fact knowing that we are both knowledgeable on SEO probably due to the difference in level of acquired knowledge and experience.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        This is completely untrue. Internal pages often have a higher PR than the root domain of a site. It's all about links.
        Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

        What Mike said. The blog post is getting the majority of the links, not the homepage. The homepage is getting it's PR from the blog post.
        FYI... The Domain Name or HomePage as most people call it already has PR3 on the first PR update of 2013 then 2 months after the said blog post was published. My client Domain Name has been given more priority when it comes to SEO'ng. Can you explain to me why the HomePage is the one who's getting the PR juices from this link wherein 70% of the SEO done and still doing is focus on the Domain Name.

        FYI.... I already expected that MikeFriedmad will to be the first to reply and will find a hole to against whatever I say.

        FYI... My client blog was just a year older when the first PR Update was rolled out last April and it manage to reach PR3 at and rank highly on Google's 1st page on very high competition target keywords and rank either #1 #2 #5 on at least 5 other high and medium target keywords.

        During that time the HomePage has PR3 the Pages has PR2 most blog posts has PR1-PR2 and the rest of the blog post who are either 1 or 2 months old shows PR N/A.

        Remember this -- Matt Cutts said "I would be surprised if that happened." We're the one's who was caught by surprise!
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    • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      This is completely untrue. Internal pages often have a higher PR than the root domain of a site. It's all about links.
      I probably am still living on the past since I still have this link stored on my desktop.. --->> All Links are Not Created Equal: 10 Illustrations on Search Engines' Valuation of Links

      Or probably I didn't understand fully the things illustrated in that link since I was just 2 years old on SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    PR has always been at page level, nothing new.

    That's why I tell people to check internal pages PR when a PR update happens & the index page PR drops, If you have a lot of pages on a site you'll usually have all kinds of different PR.

    [source 11-07-2012]
    Sounds like most of you are only checking the Index page on your sites. I have an old site that I don't really mess with anymore, Index page is a PR1, with about a dozen PR4 internal pages. Just saying, PR is at page level.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      PR has always been at page level, nothing new.

      That's why I tell people to check internal pages PR when a PR update happens & the index page PR drops, If you have a lot of pages on a site you'll usually have all kinds of different PR.

      [source 11-07-2012]
      What do you mean by "PR has always been at page level?" I want to understand about it. Sorry but I need to clear this confusion co'z its bugging me that a single blog post will be given a PR5 as that of its Domain Name wherein fact that said blog post has been given lesser SEO priority, lesser amount in High Quality Backlinks compared to the Domain Name at the same time the Age of Domain Name and it's Pages/Links matters too when it comes to gaining a higher PageRank)
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Dokemion View Post

        What do you mean by "PR has always been at page level?" I want to understand about it. Sorry but I need to clear this confusion co'z its bugging me that a single blog post will be given a PR5 as that of its Domain Name wherein fact that said blog post has been given lesser SEO priority, lesser amount in High Quality Backlinks compared to the Domain Name at the same time the Age of Domain Name and it's Pages/Links matters too when it comes to gaining a higher PageRank)
        I'm not sure how I can explain PR any better than what I've already said.

        I'll try, here goes...

        Each individual web page/URL on the net has PR even If it's only PRn/a, it's still a value the same as a PR5.

        If you have 97 pages (example) on your site, you have 97 individual PR's. The PR for each individual page/URL is coming from either internal or external links pointing at each page.

        PR does not exist without a link from another page/pages on the net that already has PR.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          I'm not sure how I can explain PR any better than what I've already said.

          I'll try, here goes...

          Each individual web page/URL on the net has PR even If it's only PRn/a, it's still a value the same as a PR5.

          If you have 97 pages (example) on your site, you have 97 individual PR's. The PR for each individual page/URL is coming from either internal or external links pointing at each page.

          PR does not exist without a link from another page/pages on the net that already has PR.
          I'll dig in deeper. I think I have to run to Google Webmasters Tools hopefully it will help me solve my confusion using your example. Thanks.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by Dokemion View Post

            I'll dig in deeper. I think I have to run to Google Webmasters Tools hopefully it will help me solve my confusion using your example. Thanks.
            Keep in mind WMT doesn't show much info. about a site, especially when it comes to backlinks. Even sites like ahrefs.com don't show 100% of backlinks, a single missed backlink could be what's causing a PR5.

            Or... it could be the index page or another internal page/s passing PR to the PR5 internal page.

            Or... it could be the PR5 isn't actually a PR5 & your looking at an outdated public PR.

            Or... it could be an internal page that once had a redirect back to the index page (PR5) & now has the redirect removed (fake PR on the internal page).
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            • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              Keep in mind WMT doesn't show much info. about a site, especially when it comes to backlinks. Even sites like ahrefs.com don't show 100% of backlinks, a single missed backlink could be what's causing a PR5.

              Or... it could be the index page or another internal page/s passing PR to the PR5 internal page.

              Or... it could be the PR5 isn't actually a PR5 & your looking at an outdated public PR.

              Or... it could be an internal page that once had a redirect back to the index page (PR5) & now has the redirect removed (fake PR on the internal page).
              You're right about it. Thanks for reminding me about that.

              As shown on Links to Your Site (GWT), there's a 337 backlinks gap in favor of the blog post link over the HomePage. The gap was due to single do-follow site giving the said blog post a value of PR5.

              Still an unresolved confusion but your explanation on this are hard facts.

              Thanks Yukon
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              • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
                My apologies if I hurt someone's feeling. I badly wanted to solve my confusion instead I got fed with more confusions, irrelevant response, and wrong information.

                Happy holidays..
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                • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                  Originally Posted by Dokemion View Post

                  instead I got fed with more confusions, irrelevant response, and wrong information.
                  You did not get fed any wrong information. PR comes from links. If one page has a higher PR than another, it is because it has better links. Not more links, necessarily, just better links.

                  I do not understand why that is so hard to understand for anyone, much less someone offering 'SEO services'.
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                    Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

                    I do not understand why that is so hard to understand for anyone, much less someone offering 'SEO services'.
                    Because, in a lot of countries outside the US and a handful of others, SEO is
                    bogus term.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
    Oooppss I probably miss some information on my above post... What I mean was when I said Domain (Domain Name). I wish you got it when I gave the example.

    The domain name of my client gained a PR3 on the first update I believe it was on April this year then 2 months later she publish a blog post post and it gained the same PR5 as the domain name when the latest PR update was rolled out.

    Now consider this blog post is a 6 months old, it has lesser high quality backlinks than its Domain Name, Less integrated on any of her well established Social Media accounts and is much of product endorsement post!

    It's puzzle and I think I'm close to solving it! Imagine having all blog post links to have the same PageRank as it's domain!! It means Gold!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rebeccha Haase
    I have came across a site where an internal page had PR 5 whereas the homepage of that domain was PR 3. It was surprising for me too but soon I realized that PR is "Page Rank" and homepage of site is a different page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
      Originally Posted by Rebeccha Haase View Post

      I have came across a site where an internal page had PR 5 whereas the homepage of that domain was PR 3. It was surprising for me too but soon I realized that PR is "Page Rank" and homepage of site is a different page.
      Yes I've seen some too. For some reason MikeFiedman's reply was meant for you. *Hopefully*

      But what confuse me that it is a blog post and in just 6 months it has equaled the PageRank of its Domain Name(HomePage) considering the fact that I know that I didn't out-soe'd the said blog post over its domain name and it's pages adds more confusion.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    The only thing that matters for PageRank is links. That page has better links than the homepage of the site does. Therefore it has a higher PageRank than the home page.

    There is no mystery here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      The only thing that matters for PageRank is links. That page has better links than the homepage of the site does. Therefore it has a higher PageRank than the home page.

      There is no mystery here.
      Mike are you dyslexic? Co'z it seems that on all threads we are having an argument you often jump into "what comes in your mind" and not what are written resulting to bad bad response coming from your side.

      I guess I need to remind you that the title of this blog is "A blog Post has the same PR as its Domain" (I meant Domain Name)

      You're the mystery man Mike! Since I mentioned on my replies and its title says it all.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Alright heres the thing. I thought every one very respectfully pointed out to you where you were in error . No one laughed at you. I don;t know what history you have with Mike F but I saw nothing even remotely worthy of him getting such a response from you. Though I thought it I did not say -

        "how can anyone claiming to be so experienced with SEO not know something so basic - what is my industry coming to"

        but for some reason you decided to spit in everyones face. So hey if thats the way it is then I'll say everything

        DOMAINS DO NOT HAVE PR. PAGES DO.

        An SEO that does not know that does not deserve the title and should give their clients back any money they took because they should be paying the client - the client probably knows SEO better

        Do you feel better now? and if this is just you not understanding English then you don't need to blame everyone for your weakness in the language.

        In short neither your OP or your explanation that it was the domain name you were referring to makes any SEO sense whatsoever. Thats on YOU - no one else.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          and YES

          whether you like it or not - there is no mystery and you are on the verge of breaking nothing. IF I right now took some of my PR 6s and turned them on a sub page or category page of the client's website the next update would show a higher PR than the home page (again domain names do not have PR).

          This is basic and elementary. PR flows though links to a page. You cannot link to a domain you can only link to a page on a domain.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            and YES

            whether you like it or not - there is no mystery and you are on the verge of breaking nothing. IF I right now took some of my PR 6s and turned them on a sub page or category page of the client's website the next update would show a higher PR than the home page (again domain names do not have PR).

            This is basic and elementary. PR flows though links to a page. You cannot link to a domain you can only link to a page on a domain.
            I wonder if you can even tell the difference between example.com and hxxp://example.com/
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by Dokemion View Post

              Yo mister SEO Guy. I wonder if you can even tell the difference between example.com and hxxp://example.com/
              Yes I can Einstein

              Example.com is a domain name registered at your domain registrar which provided the DNS is set properly will lead to the site setup for the domain name. That will happen by the protocol utilized in web browsers. To wit -

              hzzp://www.example.com
              hzzp://example.com

              with or without the forward slash due to the way that websites are setup will direct to

              index.htm
              index.html
              index.php
              or other similar alternatives (which can be changed server side)

              ALL OF WHICH ARE FILES/ PAGES

              You cannot link to a domain name. You can link only to a page or a file. If you attempt to link somewhere that does not relate to a file then you will get an error AND NO PAGERANK WILL FLOW

              THIS IS BASIC.

              You should not be in the SEO business until you learn such BASIC things. Not taking money from clients much less claiming to have been doing SEO for years and certainly not when people attempt to show you the problem with your thinking and you belligerently insult those trying to teach you.

              I am not emotional or even particularly angry. Doe s it annoy me that you represent yourself as a SEO?

              Why Yes I suppose - to the point where you muddy up my profession and make us all seem like we offer what we know nothing about that is mildly annoying. Every SEo is annoyed on some level by this every time they sit down with a client who has a low opinion of SEO particularly because people offer it that do not know what in the world they are talking about.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Alright heres the thing. I thought every one very respectfully pointed out to you where you were in error . No one laughed at you. I don;t know what history you have with Mike F but I saw nothing even remotely worthy of him getting such a response from you. Though I thought it I did not say -

          "how can anyone claiming to be so experienced with SEO not know something so basic - what is my industry coming to"

          but for some reason you decided to spit in everyones face. So hey if thats the way it is then I'll say everything

          DOMAINS DO NOT HAVE PR. PAGES DO.

          An SEO that does not know that does not deserve the title and should give their clients back any money they took because they should be paying the client - the client probably knows SEO better

          Do you feel better now? and if this is just you not understanding English then you don't need to blame everyone for your weakness in the language.

          In short neither your OP or your explanation that it was the domain name you were referring to makes any SEO sense whatsoever. Thats on YOU - no one else.
          What! Are you a drama kid!! The only reason why people argue is misunderstanding. Stop watching Telenovelas and so you can control your emotion better.

          I personally take arguments as exchanging of knowledge not to spike a fight. If ever I throw up on someone some words is to somehow help too nothing personal especially emotional. Do you feel better now?

          I believe you too are a dyslexic.

          On one of my replies I said....
          Oooppss I probably miss some information on my above post... What I mean was when I said Domain (Domain Name). I wish you got it when I gave the example.
          And if you can read on my first post I said this....
          Please don't get me wrong and try to read first to avoid arguments as it is really hard for me to convey what I really want to say as English is not my native tongue and sleep deprivation is consuming a lot of my energy.
          You're a cannon ball shot from a pistol! If you know what I mean and hopefully you are reading not just reacting.

          Btw, I also mention this ...
          Hopefully I can hear some of your thoughts. I know a critic will reply and will say bla bla bla bla..
          Also read my first response on Mike...
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post
          This is completely untrue. Internal pages often have a higher PR than the root domain of a site. It's all about links.
          I probably am still living on the past since I still have this link stored on my desktop.. --->> All Links are Not Created Equal: 10 Illustrations on Search Engines' Valuation of Links

          Or probably I didn't understand fully the things illustrated in that link since I was just 2 years old on SEO.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by Dokemion View Post

            What! Are you a drama kid!! The only reason why people argue is misunderstanding. Stop watching Telenovelas and so you can control your emotion better..............I believe you too are a dyslexic.
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            I'm sorry but this is why this forum just reads like crap the last few months. Since anyone can sign up and start spouting off it allows the most immature adults or kids to post.

            I am all for an entirely paid forum (even just the SEO section) that just locks the crazies out.because every time I look up 8 times out of ten its not a member that has paid anything thats junking up the forum. At least we would cut off the ones that don't have access to a Paypal account/credit card and the spam would grind to a halt.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              I'm sorry but this is why this forum just reads like crap the last few months. Since anyone can sign up and start spouting off it allows the most immature adults or kids to post.

              I am all for an entirely paid forum (even just the SEO section) that just locks the crazies out.because every time I look up 8 times out of ten its not a member that has paid anything thats junking up the forum. At least we would cut off the ones that don't have access to a Paypal account/credit card and the spam would grind to a halt.
              Yo mister SEO Guy... I wonder if you can even tell the difference between example.com and hxxp://example.com/
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    OP I think everyone genuinely tried to help you.

    You would probably get even more feedback If you tone down the attitude. Your asking for free help, like the saying goes don't bite the hand that feeds you (helps you).
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    It's called page rank for a reason.

    Not domain rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mollywhite
    That's possible, once your blogpage has plenty view, high quality backlinks.
    It is alright has the same rank as the homepage.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    I would not take that kind of attitude and behaviour. Especially in the case of free help on a public forum. I must tip my hat to all of you who sincerely posted to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Wilson
    Its not necessary that all web pages have same PR has the main domain, sometimes the internal pages have much more page rank as compare to the main domain.
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