Is there an seo service like this in the forums?

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I haven't been on the forum in a very long time so forgive me if this is a stupid question. Does anyone offer a service where a significant amount of the links built are links acquired/earned from actual legitimate existing websites? And not mainly links that are built from the seo's own networks etc, etc. I'm sure a service like this would be time consuming and the rejection rate from webmasters would be high, therefore it would cost a premium...
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  • Profile picture of the author ANCHORMAN
    I agree I would Love to hear about this as well..
    Very Interested
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  • Profile picture of the author mrozlat
    There are guest posting services like that where you pay around $200 for an article on a PR7 domain...
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    • Profile picture of the author Roy Jones
      Originally Posted by mrozlat View Post

      There are guest posting services like that where you pay around $200 for an article on a PR7 domain...
      Yes agree with you there is only guet post service who offer these kind of wish.
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    • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
      Originally Posted by mrozlat View Post

      There are guest posting services like that where you pay around $200 for an article on a PR7 domain...
      ...that ends up on one of the PR n/a pages of the PR7 domain.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by hipeopo02 View Post

        ...that ends up on one of the PR n/a pages of the fake PR7 domain.
        Fixed it for you...
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        • Profile picture of the author hipeopo02
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          Fixed it for you...
          thanks and thanks.

          99% of linkbuilding services offered, whether here on WF or from any other site, to the general public are garbage.

          That 1%?

          gotta know the person....his/her secrecy is why their service is still effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Originally Posted by ryshark View Post

    I haven't been on the forum in a very long time so forgive me if this is a stupid question. Does anyone offer a service where a significant amount of the links built are links acquired/earned from actual legitimate existing websites? And not mainly links that are built from the seo's own networks etc, etc. I'm sure a service like this would be time consuming and the rejection rate from webmasters would be high, therefore it would cost a premium...
    People come to this forum for a cheap solution so as long as there is no demand there will be no offer.

    Even if people are interested they still want it for half the price of other SEO companies while forgetting how time consuming it is and how much creativity it requires as just begging for links ain't working. You need great content to get a chance for people to link to it and to produce great content you need to research the niche thoroughly and come up with some unique angle.

    All very time consuming and mostly those people don't work for less then $100/hour.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      People come to this forum for a cheap solution so as long as there is no demand there will be no offer.

      Even if people are interested they still want it for half the price of other SEO companies while forgetting how time consuming it is and how much creativity it requires as just begging for links ain't working. You need great content to get a chance for people to link to it and to produce great content you need to research the niche thoroughly and come up with some unique angle.

      All very time consuming and mostly those people don't work for less then $100/hour.
      I don't think that is true at all. I think most people looking for SEO services here do not know what SEO prices really are out in the real world. They also don't know there is nothing but low quality services sold in the WSO section.

      They see the prices, not knowing any better about the quality, and then get sticker shock when they go talk to a real SEO.

      As for the OP's question, you will never find something like that offered here or in any other forum really. This forum caters to mostly the IM'er crowd. They want immediate results. All you have to do is look at some of the comments in the WSO section. You will see a ton of "Just placed my order. Will report back with my results in 2 weeks" type of comments.

      A proper outreach program can take some time to get any real traction. IM'ers are too impatient. It would get buried with negative reviews because the buyers' websites did not pop up on page one in 20 days.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        I don't think that is true at all. I think most people looking for SEO services here do not know what SEO prices really are out in the real world. They also don't know there is nothing but low quality services sold in the WSO section.

        They see the prices, not knowing any better about the quality, and then get sticker shock when they go talk to a real SEO.
        I don't believe that at all.

        I think most people first search in Google for something like "rank higher in Google" or "SEO service" in case they know the term, then contact some of the SEO companies and almost get a heart attack when they hear the prices.

        Then they follow their search and end up on IM forums looking to do it their selves, once they fail they buy some link package or monthly service. At least that's what I mostly see in my client pattern.

        Of the individual buyer almost 70% comes up with a site that already deals with tons of issue's or back link profiles mostly consisting of low quality bookmarks, web directory links and article directory links. Those numbers are not made up but based on my client base.

        The other buyers are SEO agencies that are seeking a cheap and simple outsourcing solution and do have some knowledge, the sites they bring in are most of the time not penalized simply cause they didn't spam their sites their selves and expected to hire a true professional, however this totally depends per company that hires me as some companies messed it up their selves or outsourced it to others first. Most, luckily not.

        That also explains why 70-80% of my business is coming from 6-7 SEO companies, while the individual buyer is really a coming and going.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        You will see a ton of "Just placed my order. Will report back with my results in 2 weeks" type of comments.

        A proper outreach program can take some time to get any real traction. IM'ers are too impatient. It would get buried with negative reviews because the buyers' websites did not pop up on page one in 20 days.
        Quoted for freaking truth.

        Of the individual buyer almost 70% comes up with a site that already deals with tons of issue's or back link profiles mostly consisting of low quality bookmarks, web directory links and article directory links. Those numbers are not made up but based on my client base.
        Because your client base are IMers. They never went looking for a SEO and got sticker shock. Look at what you wrote in bold.. People brand new to SEo do not think "Hey I should use article directories, bookmarks and trashy links" thats an IM SEO teaching so those clients are all Imers or been previously taught SEO by IMers.

        IM SEO suffers from the same thing Many WSOs suffer from - the desire to make money or be rich with as little work as possible and with relatively little outlay. In fact it inherits that trait from the general IM world. We laugh at WSOs which say "$10,000 in ten days sitting on your couch" but up until recently everyone thought they could sit on their couch, click buttons during commercials and rank.

        In fact go over to Senuke's site and they still sell that farce "ranking within days". IM SEo can't break away from it and is bound to obey that desire because IM MMO cannot survive without a quick fix illusion. The market will just dry up. Put up a WSO promising to rank sites but tell them it will take 9 months and hard work and you can bump it twelve times and it will be like playing the slots at Vegas just rolling and taking your cash with nothing to show in return = no takers
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    • Profile picture of the author Christian Little
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      People come to this forum for a cheap solution so as long as there is no demand there will be no offer.

      Even if people are interested they still want it for half the price of other SEO companies while forgetting how time consuming it is and how much creativity it requires as just begging for links ain't working. You need great content to get a chance for people to link to it and to produce great content you need to research the niche thoroughly and come up with some unique angle.

      All very time consuming and mostly those people don't work for less then $100/hour.
      This. People who buy from the WSO section seem to think everything should cost $7 or it's too expensive. The few services which go up to $97 don't get much traction.

      This is why I don't have a WSO running for the SEO services I provide. My team charges $399/month minimum for SEO with the average client paying $599/month. If I put up a WSO for that amount it would get no traction at all, and the few people that would buy I bet 9 out of 10 would chargeback after 2 weeks because they don't see instant results.
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    • Profile picture of the author patco
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      All very time consuming and mostly those people don't work for less then $100/hour.
      $100/hour?!? Such a person should be a millionaire in a few months... Are you sure that it's not $100 per week for example? Building backlinks is a difficult process, but most people are trying to do it cheap to have more clients!
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by patco View Post

        $100/hour?!? Such a person should be a millionaire in a few months... Are you sure that it's not $100 per week for example? Building backlinks is a difficult process, but most people are trying to do it cheap to have more clients!
        It's not like it's always a 40 hour 9-5 job, might only be 1 hour consulting. Some folks want to do the work on their own. In that case $100 isn't really all that much, depending on how detailed the advice.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by patco View Post

        $100/hour?!? Such a person should be a millionaire in a few months...

        My man.......Your maths sucks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by patco View Post

        $100/hour?!? Such a person should be a millionaire in a few months... Are you sure that it's not $100 per week for example? Building backlinks is a difficult process, but most people are trying to do it cheap to have more clients!
        It's $300 an hour....any takers?
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          It's $300 an hour....any takers?
          The keyword is buy auto insurance.

          I want ranked #1 in an hour. None of that site: ranking either, lol.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
            Originally Posted by yukon View Post

            The keyword is buy auto insurance.

            I want ranked #1 in an hour. None of that site: ranking either, lol.
            At least give me a challenge like..rank for "click here" or something. Auto Insurance? Bleh I'd do that with one eye closed..
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by patco View Post

        $100/hour?!? Such a person should be a millionaire in a few months... Are you sure that it's not $100 per week for example? Building backlinks is a difficult process, but most people are trying to do it cheap to have more clients!
        I wonder where my millions are. I sure party a lot but never realized I spend that much
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  • Profile picture of the author yoangov
    There are plenty of these services. Just look around the WSO section, Im sure you will find what you are looking for. Make sure to contact the sellers before purchasing anything.

    Good luck,
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  • Profile picture of the author WinchMan
    I think that this is an interesting question. The reality is that quality link building services cost a lot of money.

    If you see offers to build links for relatively small amounts of cash, then you can pretty much guarantee that those links offer little quality and may even damage your site. With that in mind, my own experience (from browsing the forums, prior to signing up and engaging) would be that there are very few people here offering a service that's based on quality and genuine links.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanLB
    There are plenty of guest posting services that do solid, legitimate work here and on other forums. That is as close as you are going to get as any service that could reliably provide something more in depth would probably be out of the price range on most forums.
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    • Profile picture of the author WinchMan
      Originally Posted by RyanLB View Post

      There are plenty of guest posting services that do solid, legitimate work here and on other forums. That is as close as you are going to get as any service that could reliably provide something more in depth would probably be out of the price range on most forums.
      Yes, I think that's a fair point. Realistically, when we're doing guest posting in-house, we're looking at:

      - identifying a set of blogs within the target industry/sector
      - comparing the metrics of those blogs
      - manually checking those that look authoritative
      - getting the appropriate contact details
      - conducting manual outreach, with tailored emails
      - writing quality content that's suited to the audience of the individual blog
      - providing suitable images to go with the copy
      - carrying out re-writes, in some cases
      - confirming publication dates and ensuring that posts are published on time

      If you look at that entire process, it's easy to see why the costs add up. That's fine when you're dealing with fairly large companies, where there is a reasonable budget available. But it would be incredibly difficult to offer the above service on forums, where many people are understandably looking at cheaper options.

      I should also say that "cheaper" is not the same as "worthless". There are numerous offers listed here (and on other forums). Some look to be good value - others have the potential to damage your site. It's a case of investigating each in turn, before you commit to buy.
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      • Profile picture of the author apeee
        Originally Posted by WinchMan View Post

        I should also say that "cheaper" is not the same as "worthless". There are numerous offers listed here (and on other forums). Some look to be good value - others have the potential to damage your site. It's a case of investigating each in turn, before you commit to buy.
        I have been in the guest posting industry for quite some time now; and, to tell you the truth, there are many cheap providers out there who promise a manual outreach but produce a poor quality article and post it to their own network. Even a few established guest posting service providers (with their own web-portal) are cheating people.

        Posting to these blog networks do more harm than good; so, I always suggest anyone looking for guest posting service to ask for samples and read the provider's reviews before ordering.
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        • Profile picture of the author WinchMan
          Originally Posted by apeee View Post

          I have been in the guest posting industry for quite some time now; and, to tell you the truth, there are many cheap providers out there who promise a manual outreach but produce a poor quality article and post it to their own network. Even a few established guest posting service providers (with their own web-portal) are cheating people.

          Posting to these blog networks do more harm than good; so, I always suggest anyone looking for guest posting service to ask for samples and read the provider's reviews before ordering.
          I would very much agree with what you say.
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  • Profile picture of the author immick
    Guest posting is what you are looking for, you will want to write the article yourself or have it professionally written for you (not a $5 article) to make sure the quality is very good. It doesn't have to be a PR7 site, but you do want a well established site with a least PR4 and up for the amount of money you will end up investing.

    You can search for sites already containing articles in your niche and approach them about guest posting. You may be surprised at how many you find that will not charge you if you are providing them quality content in return and let you put a link in your bio section.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryshark
    What are some of the recommended, highly reviewed, guest posting services out there which will seek out legit websites to do a guest blog post? I will sift threw them all in the wso, but if anyone can vouch for one, all the better.
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