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Basic link juice question (for PBN)

by ikuret75
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Hi,
I'm making my own network and I have a question about this.

Before getting into the question, I know these days people focus more on PA/DA etc. than PR, but for the argument sake, please think if I say "PR" it means an accurate PR. Also I know PR is not static, and PR3 can be PR3.2 or 3.75 etc. but when I say PR4 that is PR4.0 etc.

Here is my question.

Let's say you got a genuine PR4 site and made a PBN blog.
If you put one link to money site on home page and the blog only has a home page, I understand that it means all the link juice goes to that money site.

My question is, if you add one more link to another money site (or any site for that matter) on the homepage of the blog, how much link juice does the link to original money site lose?

Is there any calculation such as if you put 5 links on PR 4 page, each link is equivalent of putting only 1 link on PR3 page etc.?

Also, is there any difference between adding one external link (to another money site etc.) and adding one internal link (adding one more page to the site and link to it) when it comes to how much link juice the original link to money site lose?

I know iit is a good idea to add a few external links other than to your money site etc. but I'm asking this to understand the concept.

Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by ikuret75 View Post

    Hi,
    I'm making my own network and I have a question about this.

    Before getting into the question, I know these days people focus more on PA/DA etc. than PR, but for the argument sake, please think if I say "PR" it means an accurate PR.
    With PR Toolbar being updated very seldomly there is no way anyone can talk about an accurate PR. Only google knows

    Let's say you got a genuine PR4 site and made a PBN blog.
    If you put one link to money site on home page and the blog only has a home page, I understand that it means all the link juice goes to that money site."
    All the available juice will go to the money site but NOT all the juice from a PR4. PR degrades with each link out regardless of the number of outbound links (although of course it divides as well with added links). So in other words even if you link out from one PR4 site to another page with one link and then to another link with one page each time the value will go down

    My question is, if you add one more link to another money site (or any site for that matter) on the homepage of the blog, how much link juice does the link to original money site lose?
    No one knows this for sure. There are indications for example that links higher on the page get more of the juice than lower on the page. We don't know for sure but I guess its just best to go off dividing it equally

    Is there any calculation such as if you put 5 links on PR 4 page, each link is equivalent of putting only 1 link on PR3 page etc.?
    No there is not because in addition to what I just stated a PR4 need not even be the same as another PR4. Google only tells us whole number. In reality one person might get a domain that is a 4.1 another a 4.95 in the toolbar they wil both shwo as a PR4 and nothing else but the amount of juice would be very different (since the second one is almost but not quite a PR5)

    Also, is there any difference between adding one external link (to another money site etc.) and adding one internal link (adding one more page to the site and link to it) when it comes to how much link juice the original link to money site lose?
    Internal links degrade LESS than to outside pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author ikuret75
    Thank you Mike for your reply.

    Assuming juice would be divided equally, if you have 10 blogs that have exact same PR on home page and if you have 2 money sites, does it mean the juice each money site gets would be the same if you

    A: put 2 links to both money sites on all 10 sites from the home pages
    B: put 1 link on 5 blogs to money site A from the home pages, and put 1 link on the 5 other sites to money site B also from the home pages
    ?

    (I know I would leave footprints if I did A though - And yes I know PR can be 4.3 or 4.85 etc. - I was wondering if there was theoretical calculation formula assuming or if PR 4 meant PR4.0)
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by ikuret75 View Post

      Thank you Mike for your reply.

      Assuming juice would be divided equally, if you have 10 blogs that have exact same PR on home page and if you have 2 money sites, does it mean the juice each money site gets would be the same if you

      A: put 2 links to both money sites on all 10 sites from the home pages
      B: put 1 link on 5 blogs to money site A from the home pages, and put 1 link on the 5 other sites to money site B also from the home pages
      ?

      (I know I would leave footprints if I did A though - And yes I know PR can be 4.3 or 4.85 etc. - I was wondering if there was theoretical calculation formula assuming or if PR 4 meant PR4.0)
      Mike pretty much answered it but this might help some more.

      It's about 301s but he discusses links too which are the same.

      PR x 0.85 ÷ OBL (Outbound Links)

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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
      Originally Posted by ikuret75 View Post

      Thank you Mike for your reply.

      Assuming juice would be divided equally, if you have 10 blogs that have exact same PR on home page and if you have 2 money sites, does it mean the juice each money site gets would be the same if you

      A: put 2 links to both money sites on all 10 sites from the home pages
      B: put 1 link on 5 blogs to money site A from the home pages, and put 1 link on the 5 other sites to money site B also from the home pages
      ?

      (I know I would leave footprints if I did A though - And yes I know PR can be 4.3 or 4.85 etc. - I was wondering if there was theoretical calculation formula assuming or if PR 4 meant PR4.0)
      I'd always go for option B given the choice. Firstly because of the footprint that you quite rightly say you'd be leaving and secondly because I believe (and my rather non-scientific experiments back this up) that if you can make you PBN homepage more relevant to the money site you are linking to then it can give you better results.

      I won't go into detail here but safe to say that if you are linking to 2 money sites then it becomes more difficult to make your homepage relevant to both unless they are in virtually identical niches and you want to rank them for very closely related keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author multiplecloud
    Before getting into the question, I know these days people focus more on PA/DA etc. than PR, but for the argument sake, please think if I say "PR" it means an accurate PR. Also I know PR is not static, and PR3 can be PR3.2 or 3.75 etc. but when I say PR4 that is PR4.0 etc.

    Here is my question.

    Let's say you got a genuine PR4 site and made a PBN blog.
    If you put one link to money site on home page and the blog only has a home page, I understand that it means all the link juice goes to that money site.

    My question is, if you add one more link to another money site (or any site for that matter) on the homepage of the blog, how much link juice does the link to original money site lose?

    Is there any calculation such as if you put 5 links on PR 4 page, each link is equivalent of putting only 1 link on PR3 page etc.?

    Also, is there any difference between adding one external link (to another money site etc.) and adding one internal link (adding one more page to the site and link to it) when it comes to how much link juice the original link to money site lose?

    I know iit is a good idea to add a few external links other than to your money site etc. but I'm asking this to understand the concept.

    Thank you.
    PR is historical value based on many factor. So the real PR (current) is not reveal.

    Yes, Outbound link is the factor, link value passed divided by outbound link count.
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