[CASE STUDY] Auto Scraped Site Based on Expired PR3 Domain Still Works

by nik0 Banned
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In the past I created some auto scraped sites with tools like WP Robot, Zon Builder, Fresh Store Builder and I never got any results nor traffic from those type of sites.

Lately I had a spare PR3 domain and tried it once again but then with:

- WooCommerce platform
- Amazon WooCommerce plugin
- Great looking WooCommerce theme (Bazar)

I decided to go with 7 categories and 12 products in each category, all the content comes directly from Amazon, zero unique content added.
  • Domain: padsonline.org (dropped PR3)
  • Start date: 21 December
  • Total traffic: 955 unique visitors
  • Total earnings: roughly $31,-
  • Traffic source: organic from Google
  • Links build: NONE
  • Clicks to Amazon: no idea to be honest as I didn't create a unique Amazon tag but this is my only site selling pet products so in the earning screenshot you see only products from the pet & supplies category (perhaps we sold more).

The domain is relevant to pets as PADS stands for: "People and Dogs Society"



Proof that the traffic is organic:



Rankings in Google:



Sure it's not a lot of traffic but it's 100% passive income and I don't see that fading anytime soon, so far it survived multiple Panda data refreshes if that still updates once a month.

The site isn't SEO optimized for anything besides the natural stuff that comes from the post titles.

End conclusion: Auto scraped sites still work fine as long as you use leech the authority of a high PR domain (expired or dropped). I paid $45 for the domain btw, just in case you wonder!
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  • Profile picture of the author danparks
    Nice. I've never run an affiliate site and never worked with affiliate sites at all, so this doesn't really pertain much to me and I can't meaningfully comment one way or the other. But it's nice to see a claim backed up with real figures. I suppose some affiliate experts might have some questions or negative comments to make (people always do...), and that's fine as at least it will become a debate based on real data. Glad that case studies are now allowed here and I hope there are a few more in the future.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by danparks View Post

      Nice. I've never run an affiliate site and never worked with affiliate sites at all, so this doesn't really pertain much to me and I can't meaningfully comment one way or the other. But it's nice to see a claim backed up with real figures. I suppose some affiliate experts might have some questions or negative comments to make (people always do...), and that's fine as at least it will become a debate based on real data. Glad that case studies are now allowed here and I hope there are a few more in the future.
      What I understood is that this can also work with brand new domains but then you have to edit all titles and add a bunch of unique content to give it at least some uniqueness.

      I didn't do anything to make it unique, just directly scraped from Amazon and that's it, that's why I decided to post it.

      I do suspect the woocommerce plugin being used also gives some advantage as it makes the page more unique due to the Additional information list and all the related and unrelated products in the sidebar and at the bottom of the post. The fact that there are no Amazon links visible also helps but that was the case with other tried methods as well, and they all failed. Still it helps to avoid the Panda trap.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
    Hey Niko-

    I can confirm that this works. I did something similar. Up until a few months ago I was building autoblogs with thousands of posts based on thousands of google suggest long tail keywords. But I would use a redirection plugin to automatically redirect all the visitors to another "white hat" site. As soon as a visitor clicked on the page link in Google search they would bypass the autoblog and land on a white hat site that is monetized.

    I do it this way because you can't put adsense on scraped content and if you plaster aff links all over a site with thousands of pages you'll get penalized for that too.

    All the content was auto generated and scraped from other sites. This worked great until a few months ago.

    Anyway, a couple weeks ago I built a new autoblog with 2400 posts (based on 2400 long tail keywords). But this time I built in on an expired domain with a PR of 1. The domain only had 30 backlinks but had good Maj seo metrics and a clean backlink anchor text.

    I did not use Woocommerce. Instead I created a paypal button and automatically put the paypal button before the content on each post.

    Within 8 days of building it, all 2400 pages are indexed and driving around 170 visitors per day.

    I just built another one but with a new domain (not aged PR domain). I want to see if these are ranking because G thinks they are ecommerce sites or if it was all about the aged domain with PR.

    Top seo's have said that you can get away with a lot more dup content on an ecommerce site versus a non ecommerce site. So we shall see.

    Also, I don't actually monetize the autoblog (the paypal button is just to trick G into thinking it's an ecommerce site). I use a plugin I bought a long time ago. When someone clicks on the page title in Google search they are automatically redirected past the autoblog and to the adsense site.

    It's a little more complicated than that but that's the gist of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy View Post

      Anyway, a couple weeks ago I built a new autoblog with 2400 posts (based on 2400 long tail keywords). But this time I built in on an expired domain with a PR of 1. The domain only had 30 backlinks but had good Maj seo metrics and a clean backlink anchor text.

      I did not use Woocommerce. Instead I created a paypal button and automatically put the paypal button before the content on each post.

      Within 8 days of building it, all 2400 pages are indexed and driving around 170 visitors per day.
      Soon I'm going to increase the number of posts to a few thousand as well, just to see what it does in terms of traffic as right now it's not much of course.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy View Post

      I can confirm that this works. I did something similar. Up until a few months ago I was building autoblogs with thousands of posts based on thousands of google suggest long tail keywords. But I would use a redirection plugin to automatically redirect all the visitors to another "white hat" site. As soon as a visitor clicked on the page link in Google search they would bypass the autoblog and land on a white hat site that is monetized.
      Why you quit doing it? Auto scraped/generated content isn't working anymore or busy with other things?
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      • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Why you quit doing it? Auto scraped/generated content isn't working anymore or busy with other things?
        I did this for 2 years and then when the Hummingbird update came out - all the new sites I built since then would not rank. But the older ones continue to drive traffic to this day.

        However with this new successful test I will probably start rolling new ones out.

        And to the other guy I use Clickbank Magic Pro for cloaking redirection. It works perfectly fine if your driving traffic to an adsense site. But it doesn't cloak good enough if your are driving traffic to an affiliate product page or your own page with affiliate links. Those sites would always get penalized.

        Last year I made 80k in adsense and 90% was from this method. So I don't really care that I don't own the $3500 professional cloaking script.

        But right now about 50% of my adsense revenue is from traditional seo. So im going that route unless this new autoblog system keeps working. Then i'll start rolling them out again.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Alright, please update us about it.

          As long as you haven't got your Adsense account banned I suppose the cloaking works just fine indeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Danny Shaw
      Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy View Post

      Hey Niko-

      I can confirm that this works. I did something similar. Up until a few months ago I was building autoblogs with thousands of posts based on thousands of google suggest long tail keywords. But I would use a redirection plugin to automatically redirect all the visitors to another "white hat" site. As soon as a visitor clicked on the page link in Google search they would bypass the autoblog and land on a white hat site that is monetized.

      I do it this way because you can't put adsense on scraped content and if you plaster aff links all over a site with thousands of pages you'll get penalized for that too.

      All the content was auto generated and scraped from other sites. This worked great until a few months ago.

      Anyway, a couple weeks ago I built a new autoblog with 2400 posts (based on 2400 long tail keywords). But this time I built in on an expired domain with a PR of 1. The domain only had 30 backlinks but had good Maj seo metrics and a clean backlink anchor text.

      I did not use Woocommerce. Instead I created a paypal button and automatically put the paypal button before the content on each post.

      Within 8 days of building it, all 2400 pages are indexed and driving around 170 visitors per day.

      I just built another one but with a new domain (not aged PR domain). I want to see if these are ranking because G thinks they are ecommerce sites or if it was all about the aged domain with PR.

      Top seo's have said that you can get away with a lot more dup content on an ecommerce site versus a non ecommerce site. So we shall see.

      Also, I don't actually monetize the autoblog (the paypal button is just to trick G into thinking it's an ecommerce site). I use a plugin I bought a long time ago. When someone clicks on the page title in Google search they are automatically redirected past the autoblog and to the adsense site.

      It's a little more complicated than that but that's the gist of it.
      Splog it up mate. Going to test the PP trick myself but lets take it further and add some links to legal and accreditation sites.
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    If you're going to cloak, do it right.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

      If you're going to cloak, do it right.
      Cloak what?
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      • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Cloak what?
        That wasn't to you. It was to the guy that was talking about using a 'redirection plugin' which is essentially cloaking.

        Since there's only 2 wp plugins that I know that actually cloak properly and since that guy is in neither place that I am I have 99% certainty he's using one of the 'kiddie' plugins.

        It doesn't matter because there's only one right way to really do mass cloaking and the software costs $3,500.

        Either way, using some 'redirection' plugin to achieve the effect of cloaking is kinda of like trying to run a Ferrari on apple juice and baby food.

        B***lized - I'm sure that's enough for you to figure out what I'm talking about Nik0 while difficult enough to keep the kiddies from getting too ballsy.

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        On a separate note, I liked the case study. I was just 'moody' last night and got disgusted by the 'redirect' methodology.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

          That wasn't to you. It was to the guy that was talking about using a 'redirection plugin' which is essentially cloaking.

          Since there's only 2 wp plugins that I know that actually cloak properly and since that guy is in neither place that I am I have 99% certainty he's using one of the 'kiddie' plugins.

          It doesn't matter because there's only one right way to really do mass cloaking and the software costs $3,500.

          Either way, using some 'redirection' plugin to achieve the effect of cloaking is kinda of like trying to run a Ferrari on apple juice and baby food.

          B***lized - I'm sure that's enough for you to figure out what I'm talking about Nik0 while difficult enough to keep the kiddies from getting too ballsy.

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          On a separate note, I liked the case study. I was just 'moody' last night and got disgusted by the 'redirect' methodology.
          I don't know I'm not really into cloaking. I like this method cause it's kind of fool proof and as long as the expired high PR domain isn't penalized already it should be able to make money for ages, kind of the real passive income.
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    Do this site need regular backlink?
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by multiplecloud View Post

      Do this site need regular backlink?
      If you want to get more out of it then a $15/month average then it would need more back links or better onpage optimization yes.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

    End conclusion: Auto scraped sites still work fine as long as you use leech the authority of a high PR domain (expired or dropped). I paid $45 for the domain btw, just in case you wonder!
    I would think you would have to run the same experiment on a brand new domain to draw that conclusion to be honest.

    The rankings you showed are for keywords I would call beyond weak in competition. I bet a new site could rank for those too, scraped content or not.

    Just my $.02.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I would think you would have to run the same experiment on a brand new domain to draw that conclusion to be honest.

      The rankings you showed are for keywords I would call beyond weak in competition. I bet a new site could rank for those too, scraped content or not.

      Just my $.02.
      Already did about 4 months ago with 6 domains and it failed. None of the long tail keywords showed up in the top 500, I even build links to those sites and I couldn't get it moving in any way.

      This experiment is about getting away with 100% duplicate content, when a domain is old with a solid back link profile it turns out it does get away with it.

      Obvious the keywords are insane weak, and no one will ever search for them, it was just to show where the post titles rank, it are not traffic driving phrases, they're too long for that.

      Here some keywords through which people found the site:
      • stacking cat carrying baskets
      • sherpa 55231
      • dog bike basket sunshade solvit
      • cage top playstand
      • 20 inch dog bed
      • dog bed 40 inch
      • 25 inch dog bed
      • pet gear dog car seat
      • memory foam dog beds
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Already did about 4 months ago with 6 domains and it failed. None of the long tail keywords showed up in the top 500, I even build links to those sites and I couldn't get it moving in any way.

        This experiment is about getting away with 100% duplicate content, when a domain is old with a solid back link profile it turns out it does get away with it.
        That's not the same situation unless they have the same link profile.

        If you had the same indexed links on a new domain, you would most likely see the same results on ranked pages, especially weak keywords.

        That Amazon WooCommerce plugin is probably the best idea I've seen for those types of sites, it's actually user friendly for traffic (built in shopping cart).
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    I have been using expired domains for affiliate datafeed and autoscraped Amazon sites. I could make sales on most sites I have the affiliate shops on. But the traffic and sales rarely last over a year. Lately, Google has been going after a particular affiliate data script that I was using and banning the sites. My advice would be if you use these scripts, you should drip the products in slowly. Better still, build your own or modify the script extensively so that it won't leave an easy footprint for Google to identify.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      I have been using expired domains for affiliate datafeed and autoscraped Amazon sites. I could make sales on most sites I have the affiliate shops on. But the traffic and sales rarely last over a year. Lately, Google has been going after a particular affiliate data script that I was using and banning the sites. My advice would be if you use these scripts, you should drip the products in slowly. Better still, build your own or modify the script extensively so that it won't leave an easy footprint for Google to identify.
      Ok, first site only has about 100 products so will add another few thousand right away to see if your theory becomes true

      Which script did you use?
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      • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Ok, first site only has about 100 products so will add another few thousand right away to see if your theory becomes true

        Which script did you use?
        The Amazon API script I used was AffliateBang.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

          The Amazon API script I used was AffliateBang.
          Ah ok never heard of that, thought it was perhaps Zonbuilder or one of those other very well known ones.
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    Why he is banned?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
      Originally Posted by marco12345 View Post

      Why he is banned?
      Was thinking the same lol. Is this a mistake or they really banned him?
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    Nah he just wrote "banned" on signature.
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      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Nah he just wrote "banned" on signature.
      No. He was banned for a few weeks.
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