Google penalizes MYBLOGGUEST-popular guest posting community

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If you build backlinks using MBG, you might want to do lots of link removal requests. Google just penalized MBG hard and links it facilitated might be in danger of penalization. See MyBlogGuest.com Confirms It's Been Hit By Google Penalty
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  • Profile picture of the author dennis09
    Well that sucks. Ann worked like a modern day slave to keep that place in good shape. Sucks to see em go. I have 1 site still in the system accepting guest posts but it appears to be ok. Did notice a small -3 drop on one money site that has a ton of links from sites in MBG, but -3 could be anything so not really worried at the moment. Should be though considering that one site makes roughly 30% of my income

    On a side note, there's a huge underground network that I'm waiting on to get hit. RE, from the creators of BMR Out of sight out of mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author writeaway
      Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

      Well that sucks. Ann worked like a modern day slave to keep that place in good shape. Sucks to see em go. I have 1 site still in the system accepting guest posts but it appears to be ok. Did notice a small -3 drop on one money site that has a ton of links from sites in MBG, but -3 could be anything so not really worried at the moment. Should be though considering that one site makes roughly 30% of my income

      On a side note, there's a huge underground network that I'm waiting on to get hit. RE, from the creators of BMR Out of sight out of mind.
      Well, I wonder if things would have turned out differently if they didn't have a PREMIUM ACCOUNT and just operated a simple exchange. There are other guest post exchanges online that don't involve money.

      Then again, Matt Cutts is big about 'networks' so I am not sure if this those other platforms are safe from Google's campaign against linkbuilding networks...
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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

        Well, I wonder if things would have turned out differently if they didn't have a PREMIUM ACCOUNT and just operated a simple exchange. There are other guest post exchanges online that don't involve money.

        Then again, Matt Cutts is big about 'networks' so I am not sure if this those other platforms are safe from Google's campaign against linkbuilding networks...
        Not even that, I think the main culprit is the obvious fact that it was built purely for SEO and rankings vs. genuine guest posting. Even the blog posts and information posted in the G+ hangouts were all from an SEO perspective (co-citation analysis etc.) Seems Google saw right through that disguise, which wasn't really hard to do. And there were some pretty big SEO firms using MBG. Over time the concept just morphed into a huge public network full of low quality sites.

        Edit: If you look at the overall trend, Google's after the blatantly public networks. The one I mentioned above, which shall not be named, is so under the radar that even if you knew the name and searched for it you'd never find it. Homepage sits on page 7 with quotes! Same goes for reviews etc. NEVER seen them mentioned in an open forum either, and they've been operating for quite some time now. (3+ years)
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Dennis,
    I think you are right. I have it on good authority that some of the most 'recognized' names in a few high profile niches actually operate 'blog for pay' schemes. This is directly against Matt Cutts' public pronouncements but these operations apparently are so well-respected and so undercover that Google can't see through them.

    Brands for sale... The next step in the every expanding arms race between G and link builders.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    What is really making me laugh about this situation is all the "White Hats" up in arms about it. They really believe this was "natural" SEO and not just a well camouflaged link scheme.

    They did not allow publishers to mark links as nofollow if they chose to. So how is that not a link scheme?
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      They did not allow publishers to mark links as nofollow if they chose to. So how is that not a link scheme?
      The main purpose of guest blogging is exposure, no idea why they turned that simple concept into link juice funnelling :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

    The main purpose of guest blogging is exposure, no idea why they turned that simple concept into link juice funnelling :confused:
    We all know Smarty was into SEO long before MyBlogGuest existed. She had one goal with that setup, backlinks for SEO.

    If she called an airplane a train, is it really a train?
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  • Profile picture of the author zon27
    One of the top competitor in my niche LOST its ranking and apparently got penalized as I can not search the domain using his brand in google.

    AS A MATTER OF FACT, the site had couple backlinks from MYBLOGGUEST

    Can not be a coincidence. OR can it?
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by zon27 View Post

      One of the top competitor in my niche LOST its ranking and apparently got penalized as I can not search the domain using his brand in google.

      AS A MATTER OF FACT, the site had couple backlinks from MYBLOGGUEST

      Can not be a coincidence. OR can it?
      Devalued links doesn't mean deindexed site.

      I doubt anyone got slapped for using those guest post links.
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      • Profile picture of the author boxoun
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        Devalued links doesn't mean deindexed site.

        I doubt anyone got slapped for using those guest post links.
        A few people reported official warnings and tied it to mbg
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by boxoun View Post

          A few people reported official warnings and tied it to mbg
          Kinda like a few people follow the herd when it comes to link building, they didn't know anything about long term SEO so it's doubtful they know what they're talking about.
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    • Profile picture of the author boxoun
      Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

      lol this is actually sooo true haha.
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  • Profile picture of the author WareTime
    So true…

    "Ultimately, this is why we can’t have nice things in the SEO space: a trend starts out as authentic. Then more and more people pile on until only the barest trace of legitimate behavior remains. We’ve reached the point in the downward spiral where people are hawking “guest post outsourcing” and writing articles about “how to automate guest blogging.”

    The decay and fall of guest blogging for SEO
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    • Profile picture of the author gregmuzz
      Ann Smarty has repsonded to this on her blog http://www.seosmarty.com/myblogguest...r-the-support/
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
        Originally Posted by gregmuzz View Post

        Ann Smarty has repsonded to this on her blog http://www.seosmarty.com/myblogguest...r-the-support/
        NOW, TO THE FACT: WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED?
        I have just re-verified MyBlogGuest in GWT (it had been dropped earlier after some bug) and here’s the error they are giving:

        Google has detected a pattern of unnatural artificial, deceptive, or manipulative links pointing to pages on this site. These may be the result of buying links that pass PageRank or participating in link schemes.

        That means Google didn’t like links TO our site.
        So there was "NO" move on the network, only a unnatural link penalty on the MBG domain itself.

        Looks like your in the clear Dennis.
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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

          So there was "NO" move on the network, only a unnatural link penalty on the MBG domain itself.

          Looks like your in the clear Dennis.
          It's still retarded to use something that's promoted to the masses when it comes to anything related to links.

          What's funny is she's just now allowing nofollowed links but her claim to fame was nofollow shouldn't matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by smith5 View Post

      Google call Guest blogging dead as a SEO technique, post few days it is been confirmed from his tweet that they took action against leading guest blogger...
      Cutts indeed said that they're going after the SEO spam known as guest blogging. This is not "leading guest blogger" but clearly just a link scheme.
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  • Profile picture of the author altonroot
    With that so many small guest blogging website which are accepting guest blogs also got manual action messages. I have one of it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Samuel Adams
        Originally Posted by Hudson White View Post

        This is not the mistake of MyBlogGuest, it's the Guest Blog seekers as well as Guest Bloggers who are making it spammy.

        Guest Blog Seekers- Because they just want a fresh content and are asking for Guest Posts for a websites which is having very less or no PR and offering 2-3 links in return.

        Guest Bloggers- Because they are posting their self-written articles on these poorly maintained websites, just for the sake of getting links from the external sources.

        These people has changed the meaning of Guest Blogging and just doing it for link exchanging. Instead of link building or link exchanging Guest Bloggers should think about branding and writing such a stuff which is informative as well as useful for the readers. If they write quality content it will help them in branding as well as generate traffic.
        The site owner of MyBlogGuest may have the best intentions for the site. However, the users really messed it up. That's why it's so important with these type of sites which encourage user (post/article) submission to have super high quality standards for the sites which can request posts as well as blog submissions. There is really no excuse to be accepting substandard, spammy sites into this type of network. And, the site owner would be in control of all that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Heard about this recently so I figured I would drop in and read various takes and give my own (don't have the time to post here much anymore anyway )

          I haven't visited MBG in a looooooong time and all I can remember it as being is a place webmasters looked for content and writers got some links if their content was liked. Seems fair to me. So like a link to original author which is just to me polite.

          So I guess it took a turn in another direction?

          I also have read various takes on why this happened to them. Some say low quality link scheme, some say because it forced publishers ti do follow and others say ANY system by which you create content hoping to share it and get exposure from it is under Google's kill radar.

          If its the last one then it seems contrary to what Google said it wanted. If my content is really great and someone else agrees why should I not get a link? Of course every marketer thinks there content is great when its trash but then I guess MGB was just a free for all with no review for quality content?

          If so then its understandable Google slapped them because thats just a link scheme Anyway my curiosity is not incidental. Ours is not guest blog platform but more content and site announcement where people are encouraged to do what they did back in the early days of the net - share other great sites to their users.

          but if Google is saying that any attempt to get links besides covertly emailing and buying them will be targeted then thats something everyone should just ignore as unfair and set their systems up so that no link details appear anywhere - pretty easy to do.

          If MGB had done that then they could deindex them all they want - their customers would still have been fine and their business goes on untouched but growing by word of mouth.
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  • Profile picture of the author vishwa
    Yes! I have also heard it and read the matt cutts tweet. Its clear that Myblogguest is now history. Google Now warns that they can take action against the sites using myblogguest.
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  • Profile picture of the author netanel23
    You gotta love the ignorance of the general SEO population.

    If Google proactively deindexing and publicly telling people isn't proof that Google's algos are rather rudimentary than I don't know what is.

    Paid links are Google's Achilles heel, they can't identify them and they know that. Put fear into the masses and maybe that will stop the problem.

    Meanwhile I'll settle with my paid links and ranking well. It's about finding the right paid link sources. Too many become too large and are then targeted by Google. Looks like link removal services are in the money thanks to Matt c.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by patco View Post

      It was expected... So many people started talking about MBG a few months ago that it could be harmful for our websites... I'm glad I stopped using it months ago...
      The network of sites using it where NOT hit. Read her blog post, she said that MGB.com got hit with an unnatural link penalty. It's got nothing to do with the network.

      http://www.seosmarty.com/myblogguest...r-the-support/

      Everyone just chill.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        The network of sites using it where NOT hit. Read her blog post, she said that MGB.com got hit with an unnatural link penalty. It's got nothing to do with the network.
        I'm not sure if the article got updated after you posted the link, but right now it seems like she's saying that some network sites also got hit. The remedy? Change all your link exchange links to nofollow.

        Update: Apparently you cannot trust Google even a bit because they did hit the sites even though they were not doing anything wrong. Updated recommendations:

        From now on MyBlogGuest policy on getting out of penalty:
        • Nofollow all guest post links (if you need the list, please go to "Articles Gallery" -> "Articles Given to Me")
        • Submit reconsideration request to Google (my assumption is, you should be fine)
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        • Profile picture of the author zon27
          Just checked 8 of the sites I have contributed as a guest author and 2 have lost there page rank to 0. (from 1 and 3)...

          Believe it or not, I DID NOT FIND them through MBG; I actually found them through google search.


          The two that lost there page rank had majority of articles from guest authors.
          I should have been more careful.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by zon27 View Post

            Just checked 8 of the sites I have contributed as a guest author and 2 have lost there page rank to 0. (from 1 and 3)...

            Believe it or not, I DID NOT FIND them through MBG; I actually found them through google search.


            The two that lost there page rank had majority of articles from guest authors.
            I should have been more careful.
            So what your saying is Google did a public PR update the exact same time your pages dropped in the SERPs?
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            • Profile picture of the author zon27
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              So what your saying is Google did a public PR update the exact same time your pages dropped in the SERPs?
              "I never said my pages dropped in SERPS" NOR "did I say google did a public PR update"

              What I said is as follows and which I have seen

              Page rank of 2 of the blogs that I have contributed article as a guest author have lost their page rank and they are showing 0 in toolbar and as a matter of fact I checked their PR fews days ago and it was still PR 1 and 3, respectively. Not anymore.

              Why did I check their PR? Well, I was planning on contributing again.


              I am a bit of research freak and I just went through MBG blog where my competitor's link was placed, and guess what? There were other outbound links on that pages and some of those sites have also been penalized as I could not find couple websites doing the EXACT brand search. (These sites aslo had posted guest posts for links)

              Did a quick research comparing traffic of few sites that have been wiped out of google for brand search with those that have not been apparently penalized?

              And amazingly the pattern was as follows:

              Those that were penalized (not showing in google for brand search) had some amount of traffic as shown by SEMRUSH from google for different keywords, and those that I checked which were NOT penalized (are in appearing in google for brand search) did not have any significant amount of traffic as shown by SEMRUSH.
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by zon27 View Post

                "I never said my pages dropped in SERPS" NOR "did I say google did a public PR update"

                What I said is as follows and which I have seen

                Page rank of 2 of the blogs that I have contributed article as a guest author have lost their page rank and they are showing 0 in toolbar and as a matter of fact I checked their PR fews days ago and it was still PR 1 and 3, respectively. Not anymore.

                Why did I check their PR? Well, I was planning on contributing again.


                I am a bit of research freak and I just went through MBG blog where my competitor's link was placed, and guess what? There were other outbound links on that pages and some of those sites have also been penalized as I could not find couple websites doing the EXACT brand search. (These sites aslo had posted guest posts for links)

                Did a quick research comparing traffic of few sites that have been wiped out of google for brand search with those that have not been apparently penalized?

                And amazingly the pattern was as follows:

                Those that were penalized (not showing in google for brand search) had some amount of traffic as shown by SEMRUSH from google for different keywords, and those that I checked which were NOT penalized (are in appearing in google for brand search) did not have any significant amount of traffic as shown by SEMRUSH.
                This is the worse research I ever read, and that from a research freak :rolleyes:
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                • Profile picture of the author zon27
                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                  This is the worse research I ever read, and that from a research freak :rolleyes:

                  Well, I guess you need some PROOF.

                  I can give out a domain, but I dont know should I do it publicly?
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          • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
            Originally Posted by zon27 View Post

            Just checked 8 of the sites I have contributed as a guest author and 2 have lost there page rank to 0. (from 1 and 3)...
            It's possible that the sites were never PR1 or 3 to begin with, especially if they're just guest blog post collections.

            I'm not sure if Google is interested in dropping the toolbar pagerank for any individual site. I know spam sites that seem to keep their inflated scores just fine. Also, wouldn't PR n/a be more suitable as a "punishment"?

            Originally Posted by zon27 View Post

            Well, I guess you need some PROOF.
            If you want I can take a peek at those sites.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steve25
              What is really making me laugh about this situation is all the "White Hats" up in arms about it. They really believe this was "natural" SEO and not just a well camouflaged link scheme.
              As previously said I love the idea that "white hat" seo'ers are up in arms about this.

              It goes exactly along with what I have always believed and said, there is no such thing as white hat seo!

              As soon as you try to get a link back to your site in any manner (whether asking, paying, guest blogging etc) you are trying to manipulate the serps!

              If you create content with the sole purpose of getting people to link to it, you again are trying to manipulate the results!

              If you change your page title or content to rank higher you are trying to manipulate the results!

              If you create content to tryand rank higher you are manipulating the results!

              In short white hat, grey hat and black hat do not exist.

              Some techniques are more dangerous than others, are more spammy than others or are just plain stupid. But there is simply SEO/SEM and no matter how you approach it you are trying to get your site ranked higher than the others, thereby trying to manipulate the results.

              So can we please drop the terms as we all want the same thing, just some approach it slightly differently to others.

              Oh and before I forget can we please spread the word to none seo people to STOP USING GOOGLE.

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      • Profile picture of the author boxoun
        Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

        The network of sites using it where NOT hit. Read her blog post, she said that MGB.com got hit with an unnatural link penalty. It's got nothing to do with the network.

        http://www.seosmarty.com/myblogguest...r-the-support/

        Everyone just chill.
        I read something different. Proof nobody knows anything about anything. And can't link warnings come later? To add confusion? Possible.. I've received many.
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  • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
    It's still retarded to use something that's promoted to the masses when it comes to anything related to links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rehmat
    It seems that Google has started a manual action against MBG and all linked blogs. Robert from JaguarPC.com contributed a guest post on my blog via MBG a few months ago and yesterday I received an email from him with the link removal request.
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  • Profile picture of the author garmahis
    It all depends on the quality of the site where you submit a guest post and scale of the guest posting on the site. If the site is high authority, recognized site with PR5 and it publishes only 10-20% of its content as guest posts - then it's highly unlikely this site will be penalized, ever.

    On the other hand, website PR2 with 90% of its content guest posts. Do you see what I mean?
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  • Profile picture of the author anoopsparx
    i have seen that most of the guest blogging sites is affected by Google update in march.
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  • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
    Ironically, it's the companies with the big money to do behind-the-scenes deals to get links or pay big bucks for paid links (yep, they are still doing it) that will win in the big markets.
    And, then of course, there are the small sites that simply cannot be explained why they're always on top of serps do absolutely nothing seo-wise, have like 6 or 7 backlinks from nowhere special, haven't made a blog post in a year, have no social network integration. Yet, top of the list.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
      Originally Posted by lerxtjr View Post

      And, then of course, there are the small sites that simply cannot be explained why they're always on top of serps do absolutely nothing seo-wise, have like 6 or 7 backlinks from nowhere special, haven't made a blog post in a year, have no social network integration. Yet, top of the list.
      Would you mind giving me one single example of that situation for any competitive keyword?

      Also, how do you know what backlinks they have?
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      Originally Posted by lerxtjr View Post

      And, then of course, there are the small sites that simply cannot be explained why they're always on top of serps do absolutely nothing seo-wise, have like 6 or 7 backlinks from nowhere special, haven't made a blog post in a year, have no social network integration. Yet, top of the list.
      No social network integration doesn't necessarily mean that it's not being shared on G+, Twitter, FB etc.

      Furthermore, posting/content frequency has nothing to do with SERP.

      Good content and links will do the trick. Plus, there is 200+ other ranking factors.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery Moss
    Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

    Then again, Matt Cutts is big about 'networks' so I am not sure if this those other platforms are safe from Google's campaign against linkbuilding networks...
    This situation just confirms my belief that posting on big blog networks and sites (that are used by many site owners to spam backlinks) is a bad idea. Although, anymore it's hard to know when any backlink will be good, even when your intentions were the best.

    I'd like to say it would be alright to hand pick blogs for high quality guest blog posts as a way to create content/backlinking but that's looking doubtful now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      well after looking around my take is that ANY system that forces a link giver to place a followed anchor text heavy link is going to be scrutinized by Google.

      On a quality site guest blogging is no different from syndicated content, free lance writing or guest editorials and I have seen NONE of those hit.

      The positively last thing any site should ever have is a list of websites using a forced followed link setup. MBG being deindexed is one thing but they would still have been fine if Google had no means to penalize the users sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author rahmanpaidar
    The world that Google wants to reach, is so untrue and unreachable.
    The Utopia that Google is trying to reach is rare to happen and unreachable.

    Do you think Google were providing more relevant results without the
    help of SEO done by IMers?

    The current position that Google is standing today is partially due to the
    efforts done by Search engine marketers in past years. Sites with heavy SEO,
    means the owners of the domain have budget, money, and a company behind
    it and their business is important for the them since they use SEO and spent
    budget, money and time.

    I compare SEO in virtual internet world to advertisement in the real world.
    You advertise and spent money, because your business is important to you.

    Google wants providing the best answer to its client's query.
    But what does it want to provide for terms such as "Web design", "buy car", "seo"
    and lots of competive terms? A bunch of storylike websites such as wikipedia,
    about.com, wikihow.com and etc... doesn't answer the question. Instead the
    searcher wants an strong company behind the services or products they are
    presenting to.

    Let me stress it out that a natural search results is one thing and the best
    search results is something different. Of course I believe the natural results
    will tend to approach the best results with time, maybe after years, decades
    and centuries depend on the shape of these two different worlds i.e internet world
    and real world.

    In reality, for competive terms, no searcher wants a natural search results but
    instead, the best results, strong companies, with a lot of exposure and
    advertisements that I call this, SEO in an internet world.

    I think Google has lost its way for making the web without SEO but they don't care
    that SEO is partially beneficial to their search engine and its relevancy to the
    client's query.
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