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Is it really worth investing in a PBN when so many have already done it?
I have the funds available, but not the time, so would it be more worthwhile trying to find somebody with their own?
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  • I get this question A LOT but

    A) No one has a network around built not already in use.

    B) The smart private owners have no desire to rent out links

    Its not all that time consuming if you get someone to research purchases for you but you will have to have at least some time if its important to you.
  • I don't see why you'd not build one just because a bunch of other people already have. In fact, why do you think all those people have? Because it works.

    So in answer to your question, yes it is worth it.

    How much time it takes is up to you. There's a lot your can outsource if you're prepared to pay for it (which it seems you are) so time may not be so much of a killer as you thought.

    One tip on outsourcing though is that they will only do as good a job as the instructions they are provided with so if you aren't careful and very specific, you might find your network gets set up incorrectly and its effectiveness is not what you hoped for.
  • Not wanting to hi-jack this thread or anything, but as it is on topic i will ask anyway.

    Say you have a money site on apples, it makes sense that you want to find some expired domains with good metrics that are related to apples in some way, then re-create the site after you purchase the domain about apples again or something similar, then once done point a link or two at your money site about apples thereby increasing your rank in the serps.

    I seem to find buying relevant domains with good metrics extremely rare. If i was to buy a decent domain on carpets for example, recreate that site to be about apples and then point a link to my apple site will this still be effective, or is it something we should avoid doing when building out a private blog network?

    Interested to hear your thoughts on this Mike, if you are reading.
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    • While not strictly relevant to the question the OP was asking, I'll answer anyway.

      Repurposing a carpet site to link to an apple site is fine because as you have already alluded to, finding perfectly relevant domains is not all that easy.

      Domains drop and get bought again quite naturally (I've seen it happen for real) so Google can't penalise you just for that. Obviously a relevant domain will have relevant links which would be great but that's not to say that the power of irrelevant links is worthless because quite clearly it is not.
  • There ARE good networks out there that you can get in if you know someone in it, but it's about networking and finding those connections to get in those networks.

    Your average network you see advertised on every forum is a network to AVOID. Those are the networks that should be avoided.

    To your original question though, if you don't have the time to keep a network up-to-par don't bother investing in one. Ideally you should hire a VA or two to do the network management for you.
  • There are ten drivers but all drive differently.

    Your job is to find and test the best out of them before settling for one.

    The same as building PBN, if done right you can dominate Google.
  • Thanks guys, PBN is something that has been on mind for a while.
    Can you suggest somebody to help me build it/ a great read on it?

    I get the theory and I know how to not be stupid with it, but it's the setup/ maintainance that i'm not 100% on.
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    • Well as long as you are asking directly I believe I am allowed to answer (if not a mod can let me know as thats my understanding)

      I do that kind of thing all the time (see second sig link - and then option to the left at the bottom of the page). Research is the killer time chewer so I research and you buy if interested in domains suggested. My course I generally no longer offer but can set you up on it which I think will meet what you want (plus its updated for old customers). Just drop me a PM

      Theres also a guy I think that sells packages but if you want to get a really strong network its better to build your own as I think he includes pr1s and stuff and I wouldn't bother with those plus to me buying on PR now is just really iffy. Last update was really based on Data before august).
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  • I run a network of nearly 100 sites and from experience you really need a good set of tools. If not, you'll be spending time on tracking which domain belongs to which, etc.

    If you decide to setup a PBN, remember that your spreadsheet is your best friend.
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    • That's not true.

      I have a lot more sites than that which I either own or assist with. No need for tools.

      Separate spreadsheet for every niche. That's all you really need.
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  • Got some ego's here guys!! Its like my numbers are bigger than yours!! I thought you all said PR is now unimportant ?? as google doesn't update PR like it use to. So getting away from PR numbers what are your main metrics when domain hunting? What do you look for in a domain metric that makes you start doing some deeper analysis?
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      Only the moz fans said that.
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  • Hey Guys,
    I can say for a fact I have launched over 30 sites this year that have spanked PR domains for the exact same search phrases. So PR is not as Valid as it once was. At the same time I purchased 5 PR domains From PR 3-6 to test them launching site with similar SEO strategy and Niches.

    My PR sites DO NOT have any distinct advantage for Ranking or Speed of Indexing. However what I am finding is that the PR domains are less volatile to the Whims of Google. It seems to be less likely to be penalized and they seem to have a more consistent growth pattern without the Boom and Bust cycle my other domains are having.

    My Testing Consists over 3 Million Organic views per month across 25 Domains and over 550,000,000 pages. If you would like to Sift through my data at some point we could discuss that. The amount of data I have really help paint a clear picture.

    If OP and you two would like to do a private Hangout to examine my data I would be happy to share what I'm seeing.
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    Is it really worth investing in a PBN when so many have already done it? I have the funds available, but not the time, so would it be more worthwhile trying to find somebody with their own?