Question about nofollow backlinks

15 years ago

Nobody really knows for sure. If I were Google I would use the nofollow canard to scare people and then selectively follow links in some websites, say Wikipedia. Why wouldn't Google want to follow Wikipedia links? It's mostly free of spam and most links are authority and absolutely relevant.

My idea is that it doesn't make sense for Google not to follow some nofollow links. By default they should nofollow, but it would be dumb to always do that.

The jury is still out on this one.

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articlemaster

15 years ago

Links count as a kind of vote of popularity for the linked page. Using 'nofollow' on a link is like saying: "Please don't count it as such when calculating the ranking of the linked page"

To get higher in the search engines you need good sites linking to you and Nofollow wouldn't allow you getting sites linking back to you.

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akanglil

15 years ago

soo, if we want get baklink we must comment in web or blog use dofollow? effective?

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FrankLinks

15 years ago

seems google changes coure on nofollow again,I read the following article said:

This week at the SMX Advanced conference in Seattle, Cutts joined the discussion around nofollow during the duplicate content session. According to Outspoken Media's Lisa Barone:

A debate broke out mid-session when Matt Cutts got involved about whether or not nofollow is still effective. Of course, as soon as it got hot, all search representatives got very tight lipped about who said what and what they really meant. As far as I could, Matt Cutts did NOT say that they ignore nofollow, but he DID hint that it is less effective today than it used to be.

Later, Cutts addressed the issue again in his You&A keynote. When asked about PageRank sculpting, Cutts said that it will still work, but not as well.

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Kevin Lam

15 years ago

Guys, it does NOT MATTER whether it's a nofollow or a *do* follow. As far as I know, Google is the only one that cares about the "nofollow" tag. Other search engines like Yahoo! doesn't follow that rule. As long as you indexed by other search engines (even though it's a "nofollow" link) it will still overtime BECOME followed and indexed by Google.

Stop wasting your time trying to find *do* follow sites and ignoring the "nofollow" sites. As long as you're getting linked back, you'll be fine. Think of it this way, instead of being able to walk across the bridge, you have to go further down river and get across with the stepping stones. It might take a little longer, but you'll get there. I mean, if you're completely denied of access through the bridge and there's an alternative, what's there to worry about?

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askloz

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

Guys, it does NOT MATTER whether it's a nofollow or a *do* follow. As far as I know, Google is the only one that cares about the "nofollow" tag. Other search engines like Yahoo! doesn't follow that rule. As long as you indexed by other search engines (even though it's a "nofollow" link) it will still overtime BECOME followed and indexed by Google.

Not true. Yahoo was the first SE to implement the rule of not indexing any new pages from a page that had nofollow attribute pointing to the newly made page, ie, a 3rd party page, or any page for that matter that had no way of knowing it existed. Then MSN followed the rule as of Yahoo.

Google, on the other hand, still looked at nofollow links, they weighed these a lot less at the beginning, and they still indexed the pages. There was an experiment done quite a long time ago where this application would hunt for blogs and proved that the nofollow attribute would still allow you to rank for phrases. This was about 8 or so months ago. That software is now defunked. Google will no longer index a page, or count it as a back link. I've already proven this on this forum to some guy who was stating that Dan Theis knew more than what I had known about SEO, and the reason why Dan said "alrighty then", as a short answer was to be polite about my comment... in other words, this guy stated that I was wrong, and it was Dan Theis way of say so.

So I proved everyone wrong, excluding Dan, since he knew what I was talking about any way and agreed with me via Private Message.

Now, as to whether Google uses the nofollow in their data to acertain the value of the link, ie, relevancy, or not, is another matter, or what ever. They may use the nofollow links to process other pices of information, but to count them as back links and raise in the serps, is a no no, it wont happen.

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happysus

15 years ago

any checker that can identified whether it's a nofollow or a *do* follow site.
I used seopro dot com dot au/free-seo-tools/link-checker/

But not that good. Any suggestion. Free...checker.

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Kevin Lam

15 years ago

Just do a search in the Mozilla FireFox plugins for "highlight nofollow" and you should come up with a few plugins you can use rather than going to a domain to check. SearchStatus is one I used in the past, but again, I don't care whether it's a follow or not.

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askloz

15 years ago

SearchStatus | Firefox SEO Toolbar Extension

Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

Just do a search in the Mozilla FireFox plugins for "highlight nofollow" and you should come up with a few plugins you can use rather than going to a domain to check. SearchStatus is one I used in the past, but again, I don't care whether it's a follow or not.

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happysus

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

Just do a search in the Mozilla FireFox plugins for "highlight nofollow" and you should come up with a few plugins you can use rather than going to a domain to check. SearchStatus is one I used in the past, but again, I don't care whether it's a follow or not.

Thanks kelvin, blue = Nodofollow red = no follow,

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AlbertF

15 years ago

Google doesn't follow nor index a nofollow link.
Yahoo follows and indexes it, however, gives no credit to it. (No benefit for SERPs)
Ask follows everything.

Not sure about Bing just yet.

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Kevin Lam

15 years ago

Well, this wiki must be out of date and has a lot of contradicting results:

nofollow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

* Google states that their engine takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all. However, experiments conducted by SEOs show conflicting results. These studies reveal that Google does follow the link, but does not index the linked-to page, unless it was in Google's index already for other reasons (such as other, non-nofollow links that point to the page).[7][8]
* Yahoo! "follows it", but excludes it from their ranking calculation.
* MSN Search respects "nofollow" as regards not counting the link in their ranking, but it is not proven whether or not MSN follows the link.
* Ask.com ignores the attribute altogether.

As it indicates above, nofollow attributes are still up in the air. And even though Yahoo might not count the link towards the ranking calculation it not only follow it but also index it. As for Ask.com, it ignores the nofollow attribute altogether. There's your loophole to get back into Google and Yahoo.

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askloz

15 years ago

That needs to be updated, yahoo doesn't follow it. I've tracked all my pages with nofollow on them, and the spider bots can't find it.

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BradCarroll

15 years ago

Supposedly, a nofollow link from a site won't help you get indexed, as it is not (in theory) followed by Google's bots. But they are sneaky *******s and I think they accomplish quite a few things with the whole hoo-hah over nofollow vs. dofollow.

I also know a couple of pretty smart marketers who still love their links, follow or no, and claim that links back to their pages are important regardless of whether or not the links get followed by Google's bots. I don't have first-hand experience with this, but these guys aren't exactly broke.

Personally, I think pagerank and dofollow/nofollow are as much about misdirection and manipulation/market control as they are about Google's concern for site quality. But I'm just a cynical writer and not a professional SEO, so you don't have to take my word for it...

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Kevin Lam

15 years ago

Good to know, Loz. All I know is, I don't care to check if a site is a nofollow or not because I prefer to be natural in my postings/marketing. Of course, that's for my primary site. For niche sites, targeted the *do* follow sites is highly sought after. I just have someone else research it for me.

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virtuali

15 years ago

I will tell you only one thing. Dont believe everything that you hear and see

So in some sense do no think that nofollow links are not worth anything. When you build your links, be sure to have both! Having only dofollow links can raise doubts in Google eyes.

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Kevin Lam 15 years ago

Originally Posted by virtuali

Having only dofollow links can raise doubts in Google eyes.

Now is that speculation or fact? I mean, I agree about being natural, but how credible is this statement?
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- askloz 15 years ago
  
  heehee, I think that's just his speculative opinion on it.
  
  Originally Posted by Kevin Lam
  
  Now is that speculation or fact? I mean, I agree about being natural, but how credible is this statement?
  
  We both know google doesn't frown upon sites that use nofollow for links pointing to their own pages or 3rd party ones.
  
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willzoboy

15 years ago

I agree with virtuali. It makes far more sense to have both follow and nofollow links as it looks more natural. Just having 'follow' links also gives rise to the question, 'am I likely to get penalized for having only follow links?' I say go for a mix of both.

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freelistfool

15 years ago

For strictly SEO purposes in Google nofollow back links don't help much. However, a nofollow link on a popular site will get you referral traffic that sometimes converts into a natural link.

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