This Ranking Method works as a charm for me, but is it blackhat?

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Hi Warriors,

I found a cheap technique to rank web 2.0 sites pretty easy for many medium competition keywords and most low competition keywords, and it works almost every time. Normally it takes 1-2 months to rank a keyword.

BUT... I am wondering if it would be considered as a blackhat technique by Google to start redirecting these ranking web 2.0 sites to my money sites?

Here is how I would do it

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First I would get the 2.0 page ranked for my keyword.

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When I got the desired ranking, I would move the content/article from the web 2.0 page to a new page created on my money site.

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Then I would redirect the web 2.0 page to the new page on my money site, where the content/article has been placed.

Is that blackhat??

Any comments much appreciated.

Thanks, Jean
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  • Profile picture of the author Jmart24
    not necessarily blackhat but that is a slippy slop in turns of duplicate content. the content on the web 2.0 stays on google's cache system for a while (a couple of days or so), so even if you delete it and move it to your money site, Google probably still sees it as dup content.

    im not sure what the seo effects are either of having a redirect coming from a site that has no content ( since you mention you delete the content on the web 2.0's)
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    • Profile picture of the author Jean Clemens
      Hi jmart,

      Well i tested if it was a problem to redirect a web 2.0 blog. I did it with a ranking Google Blogspot blog for 27 days ago, and it is still live, ranking at the same spot. It has also been re-catched by Google 2-3 times since then.

      im not sure what the seo effects are either of having a redirect coming from a site that has no content ( since you mention you delete the content on the web 2.0's)
      I actually didn't delete the content on the web 2.0. My mistake to write that. It's still there, but no visitors see it, as they are directly redirected to the money site.

      Maybe I have just been lucky?
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    • Profile picture of the author patco
      Originally Posted by Jmart24 View Post

      not necessarily blackhat but that is a slippy slop in turns of duplicate content. the content on the web 2.0 stays on google's cache system for a while (a couple of days or so), so even if you delete it and move it to your money site, Google probably still sees it as dup content.

      im not sure what the seo effects are either of having a redirect coming from a site that has no content ( since you mention you delete the content on the web 2.0's)
      Agreed. This could be dangerous especially if the web2.0 site is STILL on Google and then Google index your MAIN webiste and see the article there too! Better use a new article or at least try rewriting it! Otherwise it could be dangerous!
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    How are you redirecting a 2.0 to an external domain?

    If that's a meta redirect it's useless for SEO considering Google will still cache a page that has a meta redirect. In other words Google is looking at a blank 2.0 page in your case (assumes a meta redirect).
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  • Profile picture of the author Jean Clemens
    Hi yukon,

    I used this guide to do the redirect:
    How to automatically redirect Blogger blog to another blog or website

    As said before, the content is still on the web 2.0 (not removed) and in Google it shows the meta-title and meta-description from the web 2.0. But as said too, the visitors are directly redirected to the money site.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Jean Clemens View Post

      Hi yukon,

      I used this guide to do the redirect:
      How to automatically redirect Blogger blog to another blog or website

      As said before, the content is still on the web 2.0 (not removed) and in Google it shows the meta-title and meta-description from the web 2.0. But as said too, the visitors are directly redirected to the money site.

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      That code is a javascript traffic redirect, the same webpage has to load in the browser for the javascript redirect to work, therefore Google is still crawling the page.

      Check the cache on your redirect page/URL, I bet you'll see a cache & might even see the redirect page indexed.

      A real redirect (301/302) redirects bots & traffic without loading the old webpage (on the server not the browser).
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      • Profile picture of the author Jean Clemens
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        That code is a javascript traffic redirect, the same webpage has to load in the browser for the javscript redirect to work, therefore Google is still crawling the page.

        Check the cache on your redirect page/URL, I bet you'll see a cache & might even see the redirect page indexed.

        A real redirect (301/302) redirects bots & traffic without loading the old webpage (on the server not the browser).
        Hi Yukon,

        Thanks for your response and help. Much appreciated.

        You are right about the cache, I see the redirect page itself in the cache and it's indexed.

        So my questions are now:
        1. Does it mean it will give duplicate content problems?
        2. And are Javascript redirects seen as blackhat by Google?

        P.S. My Blogspot blog (which I redirected) is still ranking (nr.2 for it's keyword), but now I saw that the money site I redirected the Blospot page to, is starting to rank for the keyword too! It's nr.22 in Google at the moment.

        Should I fear problems??

        Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin Maguire
    I don't see the point in this anyway. If you're that broke that the cost of a .com and some hosting, leaves you trying to somehow game a search engine. You're in the wrong business and wasting your time.

    Like whats the point in ranking some web2.0 blog, when you can cut out the crap and just build and rank a site that actually belongs to you.

    I did all kinds of low level shit for over 3 years before ever thinking of investing into a site. I did any job that didn't cost me anything to do. Maybe you should do the same.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jean Clemens
      Originally Posted by Kevin Maguire View Post

      I don't see the point in this anyway. If you're that broke that the cost of a .com and some hosting, leaves you trying to somehow game a search engine. You're in the wrong business and wasting your time.

      Like whats the point in ranking some web2.0 blog, when you can cut out the crap and just build and rank a site that actually belongs to you.

      I did all kinds of low level shit for over 3 years before ever thinking of investing into a site. I did any job that didn't cost me anything to do. Maybe you should do the same.
      Hi Kevin,

      I started building and ranking web 2.0 blogs as a SEO experiment. I do have "real" sites too.

      What I like about the 2.0 blogs, is that they can be very easy to rank, and that it can be done for cheap.

      I am aware that I don't own the 2.0 blog and I can lose it in a second, but I think the risk can be worth it. Not as a single strategy to put all your eggs in, but as a suppliment to my SEO arsenal.

      I only worry about if Google sees it as blackhat SEO, and if my money sites can get in trouble because of this method.

      Thanks for your reply and concerns.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    A lot of grey hatters were using Web 2.0's to link to their money sites instead of linking directly to their money sites.

    I guess it's safe to say Google is wise to this now.

    Blogspots can still rank well, even though it annoys me to see stuff copied from my sites and put on to Blogspot then outrank my own site.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Eddie
    I'm fairly certain that whatever you're doing to rank the Web 2's would be classed as blackhat. So I guess the answer is yes.
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  • Profile picture of the author BenPaolo
    Simple tip to make it pass the link juice, not gain the duplicate content penalty and still retain the visitors on your web 2.0 is by using the canonical tag. It is blackhat, but it works.
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