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Keyword Difficulty/Competition tool with "bulk" checking

by Wide
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Hi,

I hope some of you can help me with a small question.

I'm looking for a tool that will allow me to insert a list of keywords. The tool need to analyze each keyword and output the result. I need to know how hard each keyword is to rank, how hard the competition is and how much work is required to rank each keyword (Backlinks, PR, DA etc.).

Can be a program or online service, must be great and accurate
Maybe even tell me how many searches each keyword receive etc.

Does such software exist? Any recommendations?

, Kenneth
#based #competition #kei #keywords #list #show #tool
  • Profile picture of the author mbentley
    Hi Kenneth,

    I have software that can do everything you're looking for: enter your website and a list of keywords and you'll get a report telling you how competitive your website would be for each keyword, along with CPC and search volume. You can drill down on each of the competitors to get # backlinks, PA, DA, anchor text, page relevancy, website relevancy, etc.

    Here's what one of the reports looks like:
    https://www.canirank.com/reports/example

    It's not free, but there is a 30-day free trial. Try it out and please let me know what you think!

    Other options that I'm aware of are Long Tail Pro, Market Samurai, and SerpIQ.

    --Matt
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    There are none that are at all accurate.
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    • Profile picture of the author mbentley
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      There are none that are at all accurate.
      Some good discussion on the accuracy of keyword difficulty tools/ SEO competition analysis in this thread:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...tion-tool.html
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by mbentley View Post

        Some good discussion on the accuracy of keyword difficulty tools/ SEO competition analysis in this thread:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...tion-tool.html

        No, not really.
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        • Profile picture of the author Wide
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          There are none that are at all accurate.
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          No, not really.
          Why so negative? Your not exactly helping
          Must be possible to find a tool that will tell me how hard it is to rank for a list of specified keywords (without inputting them one-by-one).
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by Wide View Post

            Why so negative? Your not exactly helping
            Must be possible to find a tool that will tell me how hard it is to rank for a list of specified keywords (without inputting them one-by-one).

            I'm not being negative. I'm just telling you the tools out there suck at accurately determining the difficulty of a keyword. It's true.

            Most of them just look at things like the PR of the pages in the top 10 and how many links they have. PR tells you nothing about any particular keyword. Number of links is worthless. Tells you nothing about the quality of the links and if the links are even really targeting the keyword in question.

            None of them look at the site structure, internal linking, quality of backlinks, etc. You know, the stuff that ACTUALLY determines how hard a keyword is to rank for.

            Believe me. I wish someone would develop a tool that was any good at this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Heres the problem. Developing bulk checking tools creates alot of problems for the developers - memory usage , programs locking up, customers burning up proxies, threading etc.

    Put that together with only being useful to some power users and theres no incentive to take on the headaches. Your best and only option is to find a good tool and automate it yourself by using a tool like Winautomation. Basically you set it up to open the software (or login if its online) and to enter the keywords from a list in a text file. If you intend to use your computer system for other things at the same time then you need to setup the automation on a VPS or in something like virtuabox (runs a virtual desktop in a dedicated window). If its all browser based then you need nothing else

    So not something you just buy and run but the only way to get good competition research in bulk.

    Good research is hard to come by in any one tool much less to have bulk features as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author twilightofidols
      There's a guys out there that build hundreds of sites a month, have outsourced the entire process, except for one thing keyword research. Each keyword is still checked manually.

      There's one thing no tool can replicate, and that's your gut intuition. As some of the others have mentioned I can't think of one that actually looks at the link profiles of the top 10 and analyzes them accurately, much less for a bulk search.

      No doubt that the current tools can be improved upon, and made better. However, at the end of the day choosing the right keywords is still going to require a one-by-one approach.
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      • Profile picture of the author mbentley
        Originally Posted by twilightofidols View Post

        There's one thing no tool can replicate, and that's your gut intuition. As some of the others have mentioned I can't think of one that actually looks at the link profiles of the top 10 and analyzes them accurately, much less for a bulk search.
        This is actually a pretty fascinating question. For the most part I agree with you: humans are awesome at pattern recognition, especially with noisy and incomplete data like we have trying to intuit the mysteries behind a Big Secret Black Box.

        But I'm also a data geek, and have watched as computers slowly take the upper hand in more and more tricky data analysis questions -- credit scoring, chess, lead scoring, etc.

        It might be fun to organize the SEO version of IBM's Deep Blue vs. Kasparov: have a professional SEO manually rank the top 40 randomized Google results for a bunch of keywords, using any data they want to collect (except rankings , to see if they can beat the 0.57 correlation that CanIRank was able to get.

        It's actually pretty tough: even if you get most of them roughly correct, slipping up just a few times and e.g., putting a #35 in position #3 can totally throw off your correlation. For example, here's the raw data for one of CanIRank's better keywords (this one's a 0.69):


        Then of course there would be the "Uber genius" version of the experiment: give the SEOs only the same amount of time that the software uses to do the analysis. CanIRank takes around 60-90 seconds to collect somewhere around 4,000 data points for every keyword. When you factor in time efficiency, it's definitely more difficult for the manual approach to prevail.

        Anyway, interesting discussion. I built CanIRank for SME marketers who don't have the intuition and experience that you guys have in manually judging keywords, so it may not fit what you're looking for, but I still really value your comments and input. Thank you.

        --Matt
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