If domain is sandboxed, does the subdomain also will be sandboxed?

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Hi warriors,

May I know, if we have a website let say www.domain.com and the domain have being sandboxed in google. Then we create new subdomain, let say sub.domain.com. Does the new subdomain also will be sandboxed like the domain name earlier?

Thank you for your respond.
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  • Profile picture of the author Uhtech
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  • Profile picture of the author sevemichaelml3
    To begin with, I would like to explain to you what the Google sandbox is. The sandbox filter is really a filter that Google uses on key words with high competition and high search volume. Try Canoscan Toolbox is a thrilling online library for additional information about the purpose of it. The whole attitude of the filter is that new internet site get in some type of quarantine...

    There is still plenty of talk going on wether the Google Sandbox exists or not. This Site is a unique online library for additional information concerning the reason for this concept. Some say it exists, some say it does not. Just pretend it does exist, how is it possible that some SEO's don't get hit by the sandbox filter?

    First of all, I would like to explain to you what the Google sandbox is. The sandbox filter is really a filter that Google uses on key words with high competition and high search volume. The complete attitude of the filter is that new website get in some kind of quarantine so they really do not rank saturated in the internet search engine result pages of Google. This quarantine could take from several months to per year. It was originally introduced to block out spam web sites. Visiting cyberlink youcam seemingly provides cautions you could give to your aunt. As a spammer you can make a website, spam Google with it, get prohibited, and immediately make another website and get your initial standing in Google back again, ahead of the sandbox filter was born. But with another domainname. And because Google isn't really fast in providing penalties and bans it takes several months ahead of the new areas get caught. It was easy money making in those days! However not anymore, because now the Google Sandbox filter may solve the problem!

    But that doesn't mean we are actually stuck to that filter. We are improving for search-engines, and the sandbox is section of that, so there is a remedy.

    Only new domains induce the sandbox filter. So a solution may be to buy an domain name, or if you curently have one, use an old domain name. But this is often really expensive and it doesn't always fit your preferences. But there's an answer for that: DeletedDomains.com. On this website are domains the exact same day which come available. Just search the age of a few of the domains with the Archive.org wayback unit, and if an old domain is found by you, you can get it at a hosting company for as low as 15 bucks. You can even take a look in Google to see if the internet site on the area is still listed in Google, that fastens up the process a bit. It generally does not matter what domain you choose, the only thing you've to complete is always to 301 direct the domain to your main domain. You then have to hope your old domain get's listed again therefore Google may know that the domain moved permanently to the newest location. This may give you all the linklove of the previous domain and you obtain the age of that domain. So you can easily build your site and get high ranks without the sandbox limitations.

    There's another way that I used. I'd bought a domain, but did not use it at that time I bought it. I'd plans for it but for the future. So a page is put by me on the domain, with a couple of backlinks to get it found, and per year later I began utilising the domain for real. But I really could begin immediately as the domain had been annually old!

    This last one is not a really means of avoiding the sandbox however it happens a whole lot that you get domains to utilize as time goes on. It is not hard to get like 20 backlinks to it just to be from the sandbox during the time you truly wish to begin your internet site..
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Why would you give a thanks to that monstrous piece of garbage?

      So, what about this sandbox?

      Logic needs to be added to any discussion of some sandbox. A sandbox
      would be something on purpose holding your site down. Why would google
      purposely hold a site down? What they are really doing is valuing other site
      more. Big difference. And what about the site listed below yours? Are they
      on double-secret-sandbox? After all, if your site is sandboxed, then all others
      below must be as well, right? You can't have it both ways. Of course one
      would then say, well, I guess my natural spot is below these sites, but above
      those. Exactly. That's not a sandbox.

      What about the site just above yours? They get a little sandbox?

      And here's the last kicker. If the sandbox exists, and you could do something about
      it, then what then? You fall to #50, then rise to #8. What is the current #8 going
      to think? Gee, I'm sandboxed. Especially if other sites around you rise with the
      tide as well.

      You can't work hard to rise, then when others do the same thing and pass you,
      call that some penalty or sandbox.

      And as far as that super-sized piece of garbage above, holy cow. I can't even get
      past the first paragraph without gagging or laughing.

      You can talk about some penalty. If google looks at a subdomain as separate website,
      then logic would hold that the main domain would not effect it, unless globally
      the subdomains were gathered in. Possible. Probably less chance going the other
      way. A subdomain getting penalized probably would not matter to the main domain.

      If your domain was not deindexed, then you suffered no "real" penalty.

      I am not sure why domain-hopping is becoming so popular. Create, crash, burn,
      recreate, crash, burn, recreate...stop the insanity.


      If you were disappointed in your results today, lower your standards tomorrow.

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      • Profile picture of the author TykeRulz
        Damn man.... that was an angry reply paul lol
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  • Profile picture of the author ConsultJoseph
    What do you mean by sandboxed? Do you mean penalized in which you, for whatever reasons Google stated, suffered a decrease in rankings/traffic?

    If yes then putting up a subdomain means you'll be starting back with 0 authority, 0 links and a fresh profile. If that's the case then get another domain, you'll be better off with that.
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  • Profile picture of the author squadron
    Originally Posted by masterqif View Post

    ... Does the new subdomain also will be sandboxed like the domain name earlier?
    No, in my experience. But seeing it only takes 5 minutes to create a sub-domain and clone a site, why not give it a go and find out for yourself?

    I have several sites on one sub-domain. Some have been deindexed/penalised, some get significant traffic and others have PR of 2 or better.

    I'd suggest when you create the sub-domain's site, you get it a few relevant and reasonable PR backlinks from other web sites and add it to a fresh Google Webmaster Tools account and submit the sitemap.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    I had an auto-blog on a sub-domain and it got deindexed including my primary domain and 6 other sub-domains.

    I deleted the auto-blog sub-domain and put a reconsideration request into Google and all sites were indexed again.
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  • Profile picture of the author mysteryleaves
    I never had a problem with the so called sandbox over the years
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  • Profile picture of the author dgui123451
    Simply , if your main domain was penalised then your subdomains will also be penalised.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr los3
    Hey man, to solve the riddle of your question you must know what a sub-domain is.

    A sub-domain is treated as an internal link. site.com/blog and blog.site.com are the same thing.
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