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Unread 15th Jul 2009, 04:52 PM   #551
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If you had a choice between mainkeyword.org and mainkeywordshop.com, which would you go for?
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amazon only payout about 5% on sales how do you make any money there? Do you only promote very expensive products?
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Originally Posted by bigbyte View Post

You need to figure out your own risk/income/benefit level. Whatever you feel comfortable with. I would not stretch this too far to stay under the radar with Google no matter what. If you make $10K a month go 33/33/33 - it all depends on your own situation.
Besides the obvious, breaking rules, why would Google ban you from adsense?

Why are there these stories of people's accounts being disabled overnight?
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WoW!
Just finished read this thread.
I have saved all of John/XFactor's tips to a textfile
for a printout and placement in a folder for reading.

I recommend you all do just that.
Just linking to the thread is some what stupid,
since it might get deleted or the forum may get lost someday.
So save the knowledge to a file, you'll have that even without Internet access.

I also included the url to the thread in the textfile
along with the thread title.
And I use the thread title in the filename.

I'm planning to building up a small archive
with knowledge from this forum.
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Originally Posted by aspirepub View Post

Hi John

I'm glad you are doing well on Adsense. But I do want to caution you, like some others here. Adsense is unpredictable, it could be gone before you realize what happened. I used to do what you are doing (for 3 years), until Google decided to close my account recently. And then $10,000 a month income just gone. You just have to be very careful with what you do on your sites. And do remember Google treat all of them as a single entity. If they find something they dislike on just one site, all of them will suffer the same penalty.
I know of someone who was making double that amount and had his Adsense account shut down because he was using Adwords to send some traffic to the pages to generate affiliate sales. He simply replaced the Adsense with other sources of income.

Adsense is a good choice for this type of strategy because it is readily available and easy to implement. However, if you have websites with traffic coming to them and you can't use Adsense, it is relatively easy to replace it with something else.

You have to be prudent and try to follow the rules, but no one would ever do anything to make money if they spent all their time looking for potential problems instead of just getting started and taking some action. I think that is the point of this thread.

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Originally Posted by RAJ Wells View Post

amazon only payout about 5% on sales how do you make any money there? Do you only promote very expensive products?
The percentage goes up with the number of items you sell. There is still good money to be made with Amazon. It's a little more difficult nowadays, but it still works. I am usually in the 6.5% bracket (nothing special) and have a conversion rate of 5.8% of all traffic I am sending to Amazon.

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Originally Posted by chuckincw View Post

If you had a choice between mainkeyword.org and mainkeywordshop.com, which would you go for?
Also curious about this.

Not necessarily using the word "shop" at the end, but adding a word in general.
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If you had a choice between mainkeyword.org and mainkeywordshop.com, which would you go for?


1) I would prefer .org first.
2) Putting any word at the end for a .com is ok otherwise.
3) And it works just fine if you do the opposite

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Originally Posted by bigbyte View Post

There is a legal way around this and that is to get additional Adsense accounts. I do not mean this in a spammy way, but it is fairly cheap to start a new LLC or INC in many US states and as a different legal entity you can then get an Adsense account each. It adds a little more complexity to your tax setup though. But I use LLCs and just file a Schedule C per LLC with my annual tax return. In the end it all goes into my personal tax return. This works for me, your tax situation might be different, but it is do-able and you stay within the Adsense restrictions Google has.
That is a possible option, if you are US citizen. I'm not, so it's much more complex to take this route. It's easy to set up an LLC, I have done it many times, but what's most complicated is I will also need to open a US bank account. Nearly all the US banks I know will not open an account for non-US persons unless you walk into their door and show up in person. That would cost me at $1000 just to fly there and back, not even including other traveling cost. So it's a big cost just to do this.

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Originally Posted by aspirepub View Post

That is a possible option, if you are US citizen. I'm not, so it's much more complex to take this route. It's easy to set up an LLC, I have done it many times, but what's most complicated is I will also need to open a US bank account. Nearly all the US banks I know will not open an account for non-US persons unless you walk into their door and show up in person. That would cost me at $1000 just to fly there and back, not even including other traveling cost. So it's a big cost just to do this.

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Maybe I'm missing something here, but what would be the point of starting a new adsense account and attaching the same sites to it that were banned from the old account? Am I missing something?

Seems to me like if the accounts are banned because the sites were not falling under TOS, the same problem of being banned would exist for said new account.

Let me know if I'm making sense of this.
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$1000 It's not that big if you make $10k a month.. It seems its a hassle though.. I want to say also that this is a great thread, thanks for everyone that contributed so far and especially to XFactor for sharing so much stuff. What he has done for me and I believe for a lot of people is not show us some crazy secret ninja way of making money but shown us that sticking to the basics and working hard pays off. We've all read about this method in courses, wsos, forums but we haven't taken action because of the possibility that it won't work or we won't make it to work and will make no money. But there is no failure in this game! You don't fail, you learn how to do better with the next site..

XFactor has given me confidence by showing this method DOES work and everyone can make it to work. Now that we all know that I ask: how hard are you going to work? I also took action and started working on several sites.. we'll see how it goes.. but this time I am determined to make (at least some of) them work and take my time.. I'll test, fix wrong stuff, build links and I don't care how long will it take me, will it work, is this perfect, is that perfect.. etc. I know it will eventually work..

Anyway here's my little cotribution to the thread:
Someone asked a couple pages back: if your keyword domain is unavailable for example supergrillreviews.com is registered is it cool to use supergrillsreviews.com? I have one domain that is exactly like that and I think it's perfectly cool, the site is ranking ok with little promotion but there is much competition in my niche so it's on page 2. The only problem is it's not very brandable and rememberable and doesn't exactly flow off the tounge so to say But if you rely on the search engines I think it's good for SEO.

It would be cool if anyone who has taken to time to take notes of this thread and is willing to share them for everyone.. instead of everyone writing their owns Thanks
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Originally Posted by Ivelin2008 View Post


Anyway here's my little cotribution to the thread:
Someone asked a couple pages back: if your keyword domain is unavailable for example supergrillreviews.com is registered is it cool to use supergrillsreviews.com? I have one domain that is exactly like that and I think it's perfectly cool, the site is ranking ok with little promotion but there is much competition in my niche so it's on page 2. The only problem is it's not very brandable and rememberable and doesn't exactly flow off the tounge so to say But if you rely on the search engines I think it's good for SEO.
That was me that asked that. So thank you for your info regarding that issue.

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It would be cool if anyone who has taken to time to take notes of this thread and is willing to share them for everyone.. instead of everyone writing their owns Thanks
I have a nice mindmap of my notes from this thread.

Not sure how to share it though. If anyone can tell me how, I'll share it.

EDIT: I will try to save it as a PDF and share it that way.
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Originally Posted by dv8 View Post


I have a nice mindmap of my notes from this thread.

Not sure how to share it though. If anyone can tell me how, I'll share it.

EDIT: I will try to save it as a PDF and share it that way.
Mindmaps are great. Looks like you've figure it out, but if not, if it's on paper, just scan it and save it as PDF. If you created it digitally (with mindmapper software for example), just save as PDF and upload it here (or send it to me and I will host it on clickbump.com.
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John, thanks for an awesome thread. Now everything I see I'm running through Google keywords to analyze...lol (gonna get MNF as soon as I get my blueprint down).
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I personally believe that exactkeyword.tld domains get quite a bump in the SERPs. Not sure how viable this strategy is in the long term, but for now just keep building and earning.

I'm just getting started with this, but I can see myself at around $30/day by the end of July, which is great. My goal is to hit $100/day by end of September.

It's all about taking massive action. Get some domains and build build build for a week, then stop building and promote promote promote, get your sites to page one (preferably positions 1-3) and move on to the next batch.

It helps to keep in touch with someone whos doing a similar thing. It helps more than you think. Thing is, most people are di**heads who think they know everything. Not sure where I'm going with this...

clickbump, I wouldn't use subdomains. But just test a few sites, and see what you get. I could be wrong.
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Originally Posted by clickbump View Post

I have a question for you and everyone else regarding domain names. Rather than purchasing a domain name for every niche project you do, have you experimented with subdomains off of a single domain name?
I've done this and I think it's a good way to bootstrap a niche marketing business if you're short on cash and/or don't want to dip into your credit. You can use your own domain, like you mentioned, or Blogger/Blogspot to do this. As your cash flow increases you can reinvest your earnings in new domain names.

Overall, you'll do better with the main domain name all else being equal. If you use a subdomain, you have to make sure it's unequal by building more and better keyword relevant links.

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Originally Posted by clickbump View Post

John, thanks for an awesome thread. Now everything I see I'm running through Google keywords to analyze...lol (gonna get MNF as soon as I get my blueprint down).

I have a question for you and everyone else regarding domain names. Rather than purchasing a domain name for every niche project you do, have you experimented with subdomains off of a single domain name?

For example, lets say I have a domain called clickbump.com. What do you think the difference in ranking would be, all other things equal between these two domain names....

  1. trainhornsforsale.com
  2. trainhornsforsale.clickbump.com
What about these two...
  1. trainhornsforsale.com
  2. trainhornsforsale.clickbump.com/train-horn-reviews.html
Using this method, I could save quite a bit of cash on domain names. Even if the option 1 is preferred, you could use option 2 or 3 until you start seeing results, then you could opt for a first level domain name at that point.

Thoughts?
I never like to use subdomain because

1. $7 per domain is well worth investment.

2. Always treat each site as different entity

3. Exit strategy - You can sell domain, sites (/w subdomain, impossible to do it).

4. from my experience, kw domain works much better on ranking.

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Great thanks for lessons, i cant even get close to that number with bigger traffic and more websites.
I earn your daily cash in 1 month.
I have funny websites.

Maybe i could do what your doing, product websites.
How are you making them, do you open example: LCD reviews and then post LCD reviews?
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Originally Posted by bay37 View Post

I'm just getting started with this, but I can see myself at around $30/day by the end of July, which is great. My goal is to hit $100/day by end of September.

It's all about taking massive action. Get some domains and build build build for a week, then stop building and promote promote promote, get your sites to page one (preferably positions 1-3) and move on to the next batch.

It helps to keep in touch with someone whos doing a similar thing. It helps more than you think. Thing is, most people are di**heads who think they know everything. Not sure where I'm going with this...
That's great to hear bay37! You're doing what it takes to be successful...taking massive action and not getting hung up on all the small stuff.
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Originally Posted by jspmedia View Post

I never like to use subdomain because

1. $7 per domain is well worth investment.

2. Always treat each site as different entity

3. Exit strategy - You can sell domain, sites (/w subdomain, impossible to do it).

4. from my experience, kw domain works much better on ranking.
So when creating a domain name based on a keyword - can you get a domain name that has all your keywords, but change the keyword sequence within the domain name?

For example, if your long tail keyword was 'keyword1 keyword2 keyword3' but you could only find a domain name that had your long tail keywords, but with a different sequence i.e. 'keyword3keyword1keyword2' dot com - would you still get the better ranking with this domain?
Or does the domain name need to have the exact sequence of the long tail keyword phrase to be effective as a kw domain?

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Originally Posted by angelah View Post

So when creating a domain name based on a keyword - can you get a domain name that has all your keywords, but change the keyword sequence within the domain name?

For example, if your long tail keyword was 'keyword1 keyword2 keyword3' but you could only find a domain name that had your long tail keywords, but with a different sequence i.e. 'keyword3keyword1keyword2' dot com - would you still get the better ranking with this domain?
Or does the domain name need to have the exact sequence of the long tail keyword phrase to be effective as a kw domain?

Thanks
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Hi Angela,

Sorry if this sounds blunt, but I don't think this is something you should be worrying about. I understand this could be something new to you (as we all felt at some point in time about something), but I think everybody would agree that this is something that should be resolved by common sense.

I strongly suggest that you use your chosen keyword in your domain name exactly in the sequence that people write them when they use your KWP in searching for information on the web.

Just my 2 cents.


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Hi Angela,

Sorry if this sounds blunt, but I don't think this is something you should be worrying about. I understand this could be something new to you (as we all felt at some point in time about something), but I think everybody would agree that this is something that should be resolved by common sense.

I strongly suggest that you use your chosen keyword in your domain name exactly in the sequence that people write them when they use your KWP in searching for information on the web.

Just my 2 cents.
Hi Razorblade - with a user name like that I would only expect bluntness just joking....

I should've explained further. I had bought a domain a couple years ago that I'm trying to monetize now......so in doing keyword research in the last few days, I found a long tail keyword with very good results, but it would be out of sequence from the domain name. And I was wondering what kind of chance I would have by using a keyword that was out of sequence.

Of course, from now on, I would always buy a new domain with the exact keyword phrase. Because yes, that wouldn't make much sense to buy a new domain without the keyword phrase that's being targeted.

Again, I was looking for feedback to see if I would do well with targeting a keyword that is out of sequence from the domain name.

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Originally Posted by angelah View Post

Hi Razorblade - with a user name like that I would only expect bluntness just joking....

I should've explained further. I had bought a domain a couple years ago that I'm trying to monetize now......so in doing keyword research in the last few days, I found a long tail keyword with very good results, but it would be out of sequence from the domain name. And I was wondering what kind of chance I would have by using a keyword that was out of sequence.

Of course, from now on, I would always buy a new domain with the exact keyword phrase. Because yes, that wouldn't make much sense to buy a new domain without the keyword phrase that's being targeted.

Again, I was looking for feedback to see if I would do well with targeting a keyword that is out of sequence from the domain name.

Thanks for your feedback.
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It should only really matter if the searcher does an "exact" search in Google. If they just type the words in the textbox and hit "Search", then it will include your site in the results. It may not be way up, but some good SEO should help that. If they do an exact search, then it would be harder to rank.

That's my thought, though... I can't say in practice exactly what would happen.

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Hey John,

What would you say is the average amount of time it takes you to get a site to #1 or at least the front page?

The 6 sites I've built since last week (targeting VERY uncompetitive keywords) are still all buried in the search results, after having submitted a new and unique article, to a different article directory (EzineArticles, GoArticles, etc.), for each site every day for the past week?

I don't understand how so many people are getting multiple sites to the first page without even doing anything.
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Do not build too many links to fast. A brand new site cannot "naturally" gain too many links without being flagged. So, if it takes you 2-3 weeks that will be just find. Just have patience. You are building for the long term and another week or 2 is nothing.

You can increase the indexing by going to Google/webmasters and submit a sitemap after registering the website. You also can use a ping tool to notify the search engines about your websites. Wordpress does that automatically, but you can do it manually (be friendly, don't over-do it).

There are many ways to get indexed and many ways to increase how fast you rank for a specific search term. Read up on SEO and things will be fine.

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When writing articles, do you guys use your real name as the author? Or a pen name? Or, don't even fill it out?

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Btw, I was just checking my competition and came across something interesting. The #1 spot in Yahoo has a .info domain (keyword rich though). Only 103 backlinks. And the site is TOTAL JUNK!!!! It has absolutely nothing of value whatsoever. It is just a page that says "Possible meanings for this term" and then lists a bunch of other words that are not related to the main kw phrase whatsoever.

At the bottom it also has a place saying "Do you have a website, please link to us".

And of course adsense are all over the page, left side.

Yahoo must be very lenient. Because in Google this site is nowhere to be found on the first 5 pages!! Yahoo it is the #1 result.
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Btw, I was just checking my competition and came across something interesting. The #1 spot in Yahoo has a .info domain (keyword rich though). Only 103 backlinks. And the site is TOTAL JUNK!!!! It has absolutely nothing of value whatsoever. It is just a page that says "Possible meanings for this term" and then lists a bunch of other words that are not related to the main kw phrase whatsoever.

At the bottom it also has a place saying "Do you have a website, please link to us".

And of course adsense are all over the page, left side.

Yahoo must be very lenient. Because in Google this site is nowhere to be found on the first 5 pages!! Yahoo it is the #1 result.
SEO for Yahoo and Google are 2 different things. I have a website that gets 50,000 visitors a month from Google and only 200-300 from Yahoo during the same time.

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John, thanks for an awesome thread. Now everything I see I'm running through Google keywords to analyze...lol (gonna get MNF as soon as I get my blueprint down).

I have a question for you and everyone else regarding domain names. Rather than purchasing a domain name for every niche project you do, have you experimented with subdomains off of a single domain name?

For example, lets say I have a domain called clickbump.com. What do you think the difference in ranking would be, all other things equal between these two domain names....

  1. trainhornsforsale.com
  2. trainhornsforsale.clickbump.com
What about these two...
  1. trainhornsforsale.com
  2. trainhornsforsale.clickbump.com/train-horn-reviews.html
Using this method, I could save quite a bit of cash on domain names. Even if the option 1 is preferred, you could use option 2 or 3 until you start seeing results, then you could opt for a first level domain name at that point.

Thoughts?
Yes I've replied to this question earlier in the thread.

1) I prefer separate domain names because I like having many,
many properties out there. I plan on selling my portfolio one day
and this gives me more income opportunity from the seller.

2) I like the idea of each specific site TOTALLY dedicated and
SEO'd for a specific niche.

3) Domains constantly move up and down in rankings, sometimes
disappearing altogether for days. So my thinking is that if one domain
does this, and my entire portfolio of subdomains are attached, this
may not be good.

Those are my reasons, although they may not ring true with others,
but that's how I feel personally.

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Hi Razorblade - with a user name like that I would only expect bluntness just joking....

I should've explained further. I had bought a domain a couple years ago that I'm trying to monetize now......so in doing keyword research in the last few days, I found a long tail keyword with very good results, but it would be out of sequence from the domain name. And I was wondering what kind of chance I would have by using a keyword that was out of sequence.

Of course, from now on, I would always buy a new domain with the exact keyword phrase. Because yes, that wouldn't make much sense to buy a new domain without the keyword phrase that's being targeted.

Again, I was looking for feedback to see if I would do well with targeting a keyword that is out of sequence from the domain name.

Thanks for your feedback.
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Well, if you want to follow my lead and the lead of many others
who go after super-tight micro niches, then start from scratch.

Just because you have a domain, it doesn't mean you have to use
it. They are cheap, so dump it and follow the plan as outlined here.
You'll be pleased.

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Hey John,

What would you say is the average amount of time it takes you to get a site to #1 or at least the front page?

The 6 sites I've built since last week (targeting VERY uncompetitive keywords) are still all buried in the search results, after having submitted a new and unique article, to a different article directory (EzineArticles, GoArticles, etc.), for each site every day for the past week?

I don't understand how so many people are getting multiple sites to the first page without even doing anything.
Somtimes weeks, sometimes a few days.

Sometimes with only 1 article, sometimes up to 30 or more.

Sometimes never.

Seriously!

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SEO for Yahoo and Google are 2 different things. I have a website that gets 50,000 visitors a month from Google and only 200-300 from Yahoo during the same time.
I knew they were different. I just didn't know it was that drastic.
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Okay, here's one that I suspect will get a "try it and see" response - and I will! I have made one site as a result of this thread already (but still yet to earn). I'd like an opinion as well though.

I researched a niche that had 4k exact searches and amazon pages are the first results, with not much else to compete with either. But the broader niche one level up, has over 30k monthly searches and, despite 1.5m search results, still has amazon pages and other poor sites on page 1. Kind of like 'electric toothbrush' being the smaller niche, but 'toothbrush' still seemingly as beatable.

So I'm right to want to target the bigger niche yes?? I can also get 'keyword'reviews.com as a domain.
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Geez, do both!
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Okay, here's one that I suspect will get a "try it and see" response - and I will! I have made one site as a result of this thread already (but still yet to earn). I'd like an opinion as well though.

I researched a niche that had 4k exact searches and amazon pages are the first results, with not much else to compete with either. But the broader niche one level up, has over 30k monthly searches and, despite 1.5m search results, still has amazon pages and other poor sites on page 1. Kind of like 'electric toothbrush' being the smaller niche, but 'toothbrush' still seemingly as beatable.

So I'm right to want to target the bigger niche yes?? I can also get 'keyword'reviews.com as a domain.
Bounderby,

Here is my experience with what you have just learned.

In fact, I found the exact same results last month in a niche that I was expecting to be littered with well SEO'd sites.

I decided to target the "bigger niche" and devoted 2 weeks to it. After that I assumed I would get nowhere and would then go after the secondary niche. I am now #3 on page 1 for the big niche, thanks to the fact that my competitors have yet to learn about optimizing and SEO.

So my advice is definitely GO AFTER THE BIG GUY. I can almost give you a guarantee that if your competitors are weak you will dominate.

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Great thread, I have taken action and made my first $0.28 Today! The great thing about this thread is the simplicity and the constant reminders from everyone (especially xfactor) to keep it basic, simply follow the plan and don't get caught up in the latest fads or trends. Thanks to everyone!
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Great tips . . thanks mate!
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Originally Posted by Bounderby View Post

Okay, here's one that I suspect will get a "try it and see" response - and I will! I have made one site as a result of this thread already (but still yet to earn). I'd like an opinion as well though.

I researched a niche that had 4k exact searches and amazon pages are the first results, with not much else to compete with either. But the broader niche one level up, has over 30k monthly searches and, despite 1.5m search results, still has amazon pages and other poor sites on page 1. Kind of like 'electric toothbrush' being the smaller niche, but 'toothbrush' still seemingly as beatable.

So I'm right to want to target the bigger niche yes?? I can also get 'keyword'reviews.com as a domain.
If the keyword is good, then I'm wondering why you think that you
should not go after it.

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Have you tried cpa offers or text links on your adsense sites?
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1) I would prefer .org first.
2) Putting any word at the end for a .com is ok otherwise.
3) And it works just fine if you do the opposite

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I think you're right about this, one of the sites I just opened is BRANDPRODUCTreviews.com (the keyword phrase is "brand product") and have added reviews for that line of products as well as some general information. Did the on-page SEO, but someone else (I'll bet big money that s/he is someone following this thread or Steve Crooks' threads; theme is by Artisteer and looks like the layout Steve uses) also put up BRANDPRODUCT.net. They're in position 6, with no content at all on the site and no backlinks, while my site is nowhere near the first page.
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I think you're right about this, one of the sites I just opened is BRANDPRODUCTreviews.com (the keyword phrase is "brand product") and have added reviews for that line of products as well as some general information. Did the on-page SEO, but someone else (I'll bet big money that s/he is someone following this thread or Steve Crooks' threads; theme is by Artisteer and looks like the layout Steve uses) also put up BRANDPRODUCT.net. They're in position 6, with no content at all on the site and no backlinks, while my site is nowhere near the first page.
Yeah, ya never know how some of these things will work out. But
your example is a great one to follow.

Good job taking action, seeing a competing result, and coming to a
conclusion.

That's how I learned (and still learn)

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Originally Posted by latinoman231982 View Post

Hye guys

I am a COMPLETE NOOBIE to everything affiliate marketing. Just thought i would stop by and share with you that i have already put up 3 websites and in total they making me 10 dollars.

I guess cause i am such a noob this is why small success has come to me relatively easy. I believe the more you know, the more chance you have of getting analysis paralysis.

Thanks xfactor your a STAR!
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How do I get more relevant ads to show?

I read in another thread that you can add a piece of code...
<!-- google_ad_section_start -->
KEYWORDS GO HERE
<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

And this will tell Google to only show ads relevant to the words you supplied.

If this is true, where do I put this code? Inside of the adsense code? Cause right now the ads showing on my site aren't even remotely close to being relevant.
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Btw, here is a PDF of my mindmap.

If anyone has Mindjet MindManager and wants the actual map so you can click on the links, shoot me a PM with your email address and I will send it to you.

Also, some of the article directories I have listed are not free. Just want to let you know...I thought they were all free until I went to use them today and found out some cost money.

Hope this helps some of you guys. But of course none of it would be possible without all of the info John (and other contributors to this thread) have posted. So thanks to them.
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Hope this helps some of you guys. But of course none of it would be possible without all of the info John (and other contributors to this thread) have posted. So thanks to them.
Thanks for taking the time to post this. I wonder what it would look like if you made the size of each step relative to the average amount of time that step takes you.

According to John the backlinks have the most variance, but it would be interesting to take timing data from, say, doing 100 sites and weight the steps according to the resulting timings.

Also, while the backlinks have the most variance, and could conceivably be the biggest time sync of all, it also appears to be the easiest portion to do in parallel, and to outsource.
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Thanks for taking the time to post this.
You're welcome.

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I wonder what it would look like if you made the size of each step relative to the average amount of time that step takes you.

According to John the backlinks have the most variance, but it would be interesting to take timing data from, say, doing 100 sites and weight the steps according to the resulting timings.

Also, while the backlinks have the most variance, and could conceivably be the biggest time sync of all, it also appears to be the easiest portion to do in parallel, and to outsource.
I'm not sure I fully understand you. It is 5:18 in the morning here, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Are you saying to kind of do an 80/20 to the steps? See which ones give the most payoff for the least amount of time....or am I way off?
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XFactor, I know you put your adsense code up straight away on your sites but do you put both adsense and amazon at the same time or is it always one or the other and not both?
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Your model makes use of specific products, right? I am unsure as to how you are ranking above the manufacturer itself if you are using brand names ect as your keyphrases?

Thanks for the amazing insight so far
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Hello,

First, i am sorry if i write like a child, but i am french, so i try to do my best, sorry for your

eyes
then, i must congrats you for the 300$/day! you work harder than me, that's certain lol.


Well, i have some adsense sites, im still a newbie in that. First time, i have bought some articles and i have started some websites in big markets, so, duplicate content and big competition > fail, the clicks i have on those sites come only from directories.

Then, i have started a wordpress blog about weight loss. I have selected a good keyword for the domain name, and 10 differents keywords with not so much competition, and with that, i wrote 1 page for every keyword (10 differents pages). Second try, well, it's better than before but not the paradise : some days, 0.50 cents, to 1.5 Euro luckys days (some days 0 too). That's for my little experience.
Every things i tried for now are in french, french markets/website/content.

I was not on the warrior forum for a moment now, but when i came and see your post, i got back some motivation to try again. I have read the 13 pages and now, i have a lost of questions before i start.

The first thing : with a product for keyword, i have always some online-shops websites and some websites that list the best prices for every online shops (i dont know how to say in english, we says
"comparateur de prix" in french.) I have a chance to be before those sites in google results?

Second one when i do a page about a product in amazon, amazon will always appear in results no?

Then, about niches, i still have problems. When you say, "i choose a keyword and i create some pages about that keyword it's like for exemple if : i select the niche "inox toaster" with a domain name like "inoxtoastersite_DOT_com and i create 4-5 pages like
1) The best inox toasters on the market
2) How to choose your inox toaster
3) How an inox toaster works
4) Why people like inox toasters?

then i creater others pages, like specific models of inox toaster,

The toaster philips hb45785568989,
etc.

Say me if i'm right with that thing or not please, it's the biggest thing that stop me to start working.

Thanks in advance, and good luck for the 1000$/day!

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Read the entire thread - great insight - but I have a question - somewhere in the thread you mentioned that you wouldn't give out any urls because google could shut you down for violating there adsense rules. Now I understand about not giving out any urls just from keeping your "realestate" safe - but what rule(violation) could that trigger with google adsense? Thanks
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