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Unread 30th Jul 2009, 08:27 AM   #951
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Bay37,

When you say "bigger" sites, how many pages are you talking about? Mine (the new "xfactor-style" ones) have usually 5-10 pages and the rankings are usually on page 1-10 but not really receiving much traffic yet. Although for a few days, a single site was earning a consistent $7-$10/day. When I looked at google analytics, it was just the EA articles that were bringing the clicks, not SE traffic. Now it's down to $1-$3/day. The others are sadly not getting any clicks at all (even the one on #3 of Google)

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Same here.

I'm back to around $5/day now. Most of my mini sites got nuked by Google a good week ago. Now I'm trying to build way bigger sites, with more content, targeting slightly different keyword phrases. Got 25 sites up, going to keep promoting them until I hit $50-$75/day. Fun fun.
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Now it's down to $1-$3/day. The others are sadly not getting any clicks at all (even the one on #3 of Google)
Is it because visitors are not clicking or is it because you're not getting any search traffic at all? Different problems. Being #3 doesn't help if no one's searching for the term.

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Bay37,

When you say "bigger" sites, how many pages are you talking about? Mine (the new "xfactor-style" ones) have usually 5-10 pages and the rankings are usually on page 1-10 but not really receiving much traffic yet. Although for a few days, a single site was earning a consistent $7-$10/day. When I looked at google analytics, it was just the EA articles that were bringing the clicks, not SE traffic. Now it's down to $1-$3/day. The others are sadly not getting any clicks at all (even the one on #3 of Google)

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Try and build some backlinks to the EA articles by bookmarking them etc.
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Originally Posted by jbgal View Post

Bay37,

When you say "bigger" sites, how many pages are you talking about? Mine (the new "xfactor-style" ones) have usually 5-10 pages and the rankings are usually on page 1-10 but not really receiving much traffic yet. Although for a few days, a single site was earning a consistent $7-$10/day. When I looked at google analytics, it was just the EA articles that were bringing the clicks, not SE traffic. Now it's down to $1-$3/day. The others are sadly not getting any clicks at all (even the one on #3 of Google)

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By "bigger" I mean this -

I launch with 5-10 pages, do 100 SBs, wait for the site to get indexed (same day), then throw Adsense ads on the pages and wait a week or so, then start adding more content (like 2-3 pages every couple of days) until I reach 20-30 pages/site.

I don't use EA. Don't want to over do it with backlinks.

I'll keep working at those 25 sites until I hit ~$60/day. No matter what. It's a lot of work.

Btw, that $5/day is from 4-5 mini sites of mine. I'm using the other sites to test different ad placements, colors etc so they're doing very poorly atm.
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So many people are doing social bookmarking of pages for SEO that I'm not sure it works that well anymore, especially with the automated tools that various developers have put out. I suspect that two or three backlinks from a reputable article directory like EA outweigh those 100 bookmarking links. I'd be curious to hear what others have experienced with the bookmarking angle.

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Originally Posted by bay37 View Post

By "bigger" I mean this -

I launch with 5-10 pages, do 100 SBs, wait for the site to get indexed (same day), then throw Adsense ads on the pages and wait a week or so, then start adding more content (like 2-3 pages every couple of days) until I reach 20-30 pages/site.

I don't use EA. Don't want to over do it with backlinks.

I'll keep working at those 25 sites until I hit ~$60/day. No matter what. It's a lot of work.

Btw, that $5/day is from 4-5 mini sites of mine. I'm using the other sites to test different ad placements, colors etc so they're doing very poorly atm.
Just my 2 cents.
1. Would it be 'natural' that a website is bookmarked by people even before it is indexed?
2. 20-30 pages times 25 sites = 500 -750 pages for $60/day. Sounds like a lot of work. But I guess once you finish those 750 pages, $60/day would be on auto pilot. Still too much work if that's all you're going to earn. I'd rather build 7 websites with 100 pages each for affiliate product promotion and I'm sure I'll get $50-100/day from each site.
3. If I understood what you're saying right, I don't think it's an efficient system. If I understood right, X-Factor does it with much less work. I doubt if he has 750 pages in all his $300/day empire

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Originally Posted by EricGiguere View Post

So many people are doing social bookmarking of pages for SEO that I'm not sure it works that well anymore, especially with the automated tools that various developers have put out. I suspect that two or three backlinks from a reputable article directory like EA outweigh those 100 bookmarking links. I'd be curious to hear what others have experienced with the bookmarking angle.
I have seen my pages get PR, purely from bookmarking.
But from web 2.0, I have had sites move from 2nd to 1st page and from like #8 to #4. But afterwards, however much you do it, they don't move. My thinking is that Google says, any site can only get 20% boost from SB, another 20% from web 2.0 another 20 % from content etc. etc.
Overdoing just one of them will not do the trick.
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Meh, the way I see it, everything is a lot of work. I'm mostly doing product descriptions and such, so it doesn't take long to write them up.

Also note that I have no idea yet how much money I'll be making once I'm done with those 25 websites. My minimum goal is to get to $60/day. It's a good chunk of extra change for ~6 weeks of work. If I manage to get to $100 or even $200/day thats even better.

All in all, a 25 page website == 1 day of work (I work on multiple websites at a time though). That includes 100 manual SBs (semi-automated now, I got myself a list of 100 high pr (9-2) do follow SB sites. Unfortunately I cannot automate most of them).

Not sure how much Google cares about how natural my backlinks look. So far it seems to be working just fine.

It's really like a game to me. I'm enjoying this atm. I'll get to building big websites promoting affiliate products... sometime next month perhaps.
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Originally Posted by John McEachern View Post

Hey Bay 37, could you please tell me what you mean by 100 SB's. Do you mean you social bookmark all your site's pages to 100 social bookmark sites? Did I understand that right?

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Yep. 100% correct.
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Originally Posted by John McEachern View Post

But for the sheer simplicity of things, I still think Xfactor's method can't be beat, especially if someone with no prior experience can come in and duplicate that kind of success.
Thats a big if.

It works, most definitely. Everyone has his/her own way of doing things. The end result is more or less the same. The important thing is to take action.

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Yeah I social bookmark every mini site to 100 SB sites using 3-4 different titles/descriptions. Takes around 3 hours (I do 2-3 sites in one go). I bookmark 3 mini sites per account. I've seen the PR jump by 2 for one of the sites, but it's still too early to tell what the long term results are going to be.

SBs definitely help. Normally I move up ~3-5 positions on page one. I'm not doing it for the potential clicks (they don't click).

I do not plan on doing more than 100 SBs per site. If the Sbs don't work, I'm going to put some articles up on UAW, perhaps post a few on EA as well.
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All in all, a 25 page website == 1 day of work (I work on multiple websites at a time though).
Hey can you pls elaborate that? How on earth do you manage 100 pages in one day? How long are the posts?
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Hey can you pls elaborate that? How on earth do you manage 100 pages in one day? How long are the posts?
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Erm, I meant that a single 25 page website takes me roughly 1 day to write up, etc. But I normally work on 2-3 websites, maybe more, at a time. Write 24 articles (split over 3-4 sites), put them up, then maybe do SBs for the 3 sites, or do some keyword research, or some ad testing, stuff like that.
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Originally Posted by bay37 View Post

Erm, I meant that a single 25 page website takes me roughly 1 day to write up, etc. But I normally work on 2-3 websites, maybe more, at a time. Write 24 articles (split over 3-4 sites), put them up, then maybe do SBs for the 3 sites, or do some keyword research, or some ad testing, stuff like that.
wow great! I can't do more than 5 articles a day max
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I am choosing the Article Marketing route. I've chosen 7 directories; how do I know if they are "do follow"? Presumably, if they are not I am wasting my time as I am basically using them for backlinking rather than click throughs from the author box.

The 7 sites are:

EzineArticles
GoArticles
ArticlesBase
ArticlesFactory
ArticleDashboard
EasyArticles
ArticleAlley

Should I ignore any of the above, or add others in their place? I don't need tons of them as the theme of this thread is small sites, so I am just planning on writing 5 articles per niche and submitting them all to each directory.
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Originally Posted by John McEachern View Post

May I ask how you compiled your list of social bookmarking sites that you use. Just get on Google and search something like "high PR do-follow social bookmark sites"?
I ordered premium SB services from various suppliers (other forums) and compiled a nice list after going through the reports they sent me.
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The easiest way to see if links are nofollow or not is to use Firefox and install the free "SEO Tools" plugin. When enabled, the plugin highlights all nofollow links on a page with a bright red background, making it easy to find them.

Don't submit dupes to EzineArticles, they want unique content.

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Originally Posted by EricGiguere View Post

The easiest way to see if links are nofollow or not is to use Firefox and install the free "SEO Tools" plugin. When enabled, the plugin highlights all nofollow links on a page with a bright red background, making it easy to find them.

Don't submit dupes to EzineArticles, they want unique content.
Do you have a URL for this, as you can imagine searching "SEO Tools" returns a fair few results!
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Should we build backlinks for all pages? or we need only for index page? I read 10 pages of this great thread. But i am not able to find out exact answer for this. Can someone explain me?

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Should we build backlinks for all pages? or we need only for index page? I read 10 pages of this great thread. But i am not able to find out exact answer for this. Can someone explain me?

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From what I remember (though don't quote me), we should be building backlinks to all pages.

A site with tons of good backlinks to it's main domain will inherently have a high PageRank for the main site, which will normally trickle down to the other pages. However, since our sites are very small and we don't have the resources to build such a massive amount of links to the main page and wait for the juice to trickle down, we will have better results by simply getting anchor-targetted backlinks to our specific pages.

Bear in mind, however, that you can actually put 2 backlinks in your bio/resource box in your EzineArticles, so what is recommended is that for each article you submit, you have a backlink to the page you're attempting to improve the rankings of, and also a backlink to your main domain. Kill two birds with one stone, as it were :-)
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From what I remember (though don't quote me), we should be building backlinks to all pages.
Yes!

Each page should have backlinks for that particular keyword that you're targeting in it. All backlinks will benefit the site as a whole.

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Hi John,
I gave up wondering what is going with you, but something isn´t right. I mean, when you started to announce the course did you have nothing? And after getting the first money you began to work?
If that is what you think then please email me so that I can give you
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We do not need to work together.

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Originally Posted by glencumbie View Post

Thanks John.. great information. I am still a bit of a newbie when it comes to Adsense, however have spent the last 3 months off and on, trying to figure out why I cannot get clicks on Adsense For Feeds. I have watched video after video and still cannot get a click to save my life. This after over 10,000 impressions.. you would think I would get at least one. I have checked and double and triple checked to make sure I am doing it right, and I must be messing up somewhere. Am I understanding correctly that after redirect on lets say Blogger, that the landing page would be the blog itself (placed into the site field), or should the landing page be Feedburner itself? Found I think under optimize. Sorry for so many questions but this has been a huge time consumer that I feel very close in figuring out. Anyone have any suggestions? Training videos? I am needing an expert in the Adsense For Feeds field.. is it okay to reach out? Thank you all in advance for any help. Glen
I'd love to help you Glen but I do not work with feeds like what you are
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I simply submit articles to give my sites link power, that's it.

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Originally Posted by iwebtopia View Post

I don't know how to set up a website at all and so am stuck and can't get off starting block. I desperately need to start making some $$, even if just one dollar! Once I can set up a simple site and understand what I'm doing, then everything will be good. So looking forward to the course and I don't mind that it's taking longer. It will be worth it.
My course will be the perfect outline for jumping right in, but before you
walk you must learn to crawl, so you need to self-study and learn how to
use a site-builder, how to set up hosting, how to set you domains, etc.

These are common tasks that I do not go over, but which are easily
instructed by the products you choose to work with (hosting, XsitePro, etc.)

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Originally Posted by azagon View Post

John's Adsense Course should just be this thread copy and pasted to a pdf file. Everything is in these pages folks, and the info here is worth $1000s to the folks who sit back, grab a coffee and soak it in.

If you can't wait around for an eBook, where will you find the patience to wait for your site/s to start making money? eh?

Cause it's gonna take time.. a whole lotta precious time (I can hear George Harrison...) before you see results with any new site.

But I do have another question...

With Adsenses new sizes, what size and font do you usually use John?

I don't think this has been asked.

I'm using Arial and Small on most of my ads with fairly good CTR. But just wondering if there is a size and font that works good / better for you?

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I also use Arial, with a lighter shade of black.

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Hi John (and everyone else),

I've read a large portion of the 953 posts on this thread (since the last time I checked, 200 have been added), and as someone who most've failed so far, it is extremely inspiring.

I have a question to you that may seem basic, but I'm utterly lost here. I think it's affecting my Google rankings so I'd be very grateful to anyone who can help me find the right solution to this.

My question is how to structure an entire site regarding keyword phrases, assuming the site has a main page and several secondary pages (i.e. 5-8).

Say you have 15 keywords, with the first and second much better than the others (the primary and secondary phrases).

So far when I've built sites, I've used the primary and secondary kw phrases in the homepage, and several of the others. However, in the secondary pages I've also used some of these phrases - with the difference being, sometimes the primary keyword isn't in the title but is rather in the ALT tag of an image.

Whenever I could, I tried to use more relevant keywords in each page. But at times the content is pretty similar (think a website which reviews all canon cameras - you can pretty much use every phrase in every page and it would make sense).

Someone told me that the correct approach would be to use the primary/secondary keywords only in the main page, and to use the minor keywords sparingly in the secondary pages - and NOT use the primary or secondary keywords at all.

Since I see some of my sites going down in rankings I figure I'm doing something wrong. Can John or anyone else help with this? I'd be very very grateful.

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Originally Posted by EricGiguere View Post

Speaking as someone who's been down the path that John is on, I can assure you that delays in creating and putting up material for a new product are quite normal when you're a one-person operation doing other things. Life often interferes, trust me, and you end up having way less time than you thought to work on things, plus inevitably it takes longer than you thought it would in the first place, so it's a double-whammy.

Pre-announcing a product is a good way to see if there's actually any interest in it, but it has the unfortunate side effect of making things harder when you miss your own self-imposed deadlines.

All I can say is to be patient.
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Per Google keyword tool, that term was supposed to get 1600 exact searches/mo. but I guess #3 is not that big a deal as I'm only getting around 5 uniques/day.

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Is it because visitors are not clicking or is it because you're not getting any search traffic at all? Different problems. Being #3 doesn't help if no one's searching for the term.
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I am absolutely tired of certain people complaining about John's delay in delivering his product. Reading this thread alone is worth whatever you paid. Please if your going to complain get out. John has already agreed to give anyone who wants it can have their money back, take it and leave.
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Originally Posted by mrrichesinniches View Post

I am absolutely tired of certain people complaining about John's delay in delivering his product. Reading this thread alone is worth whatever you paid. Please if your going to complain get out. John has already agreed to give anyone who wants it can have their money back, take it and leave.
Here's what I really don't get. Everyone in this thread is IN on a product as it is being developed, and John is revising and making his WSO more and more relevant and detailed with every revision. Hell, even some of their own suggestions could end up being a cause for a better end result!

Who in the world is that much a knucklehead to be complaining that the product they are about to receive will be the best possible, and not some fluff! Believe me, there's plenty of fluff already out there.

If I was waiting for a PS3, and Sony kept saying "hold on, we've adding more coolness, be patient", I'm not going to whinge about getting a substandard system when I know full well the attention to detail will result in a superior console.

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I've read almost this entire thread and I've learned a lot. Great post. I have a question for you though. I've been building niche sites that have very low competition for a while now, getting my links primarily from sources other than articles. I've been able to get a few of my sites to the top 3 or even #1 in Google, but after a week or two some of them seem to drop out of the search results completely. This could be the Google dance, but I also had some sites that were #1 in Google for MONTHS, and then had it disappear from the SERPS completely for 5-6 days, then come back, and then disappear after a few weeks again.

Do you find that links from articles make your sites stick longer? Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Will building more links for a site that's disappeared from the results bring it back? Or do you think Google has penalized it in some way?
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Rush,

What methods are you using to get backlinks? It could be that you're getting some links from "bad neighborhood". Google may penalize sites if you're being linked to from a "bad" site.

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XFactor,

I've read almost this entire thread and I've learned a lot. Great post. I have a question for you though. I've been building niche sites that have very low competition for a while now, getting my links primarily from sources other than articles. I've been able to get a few of my sites to the top 3 or even #1 in Google, but after a week or two some of them seem to drop out of the search results completely. This could be the Google dance, but I also had some sites that were #1 in Google for MONTHS, and then had it disappear from the SERPS completely for 5-6 days, then come back, and then disappear after a few weeks again.

Do you find that links from articles make your sites stick longer? Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Will building more links for a site that's disappeared from the results bring it back? Or do you think Google has penalized it in some way?
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Rush,

What methods are you using to get backlinks? It could be that you're getting some links from "bad neighborhood". Google may penalize sites if you're being linked to from a "bad" site.

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The majority of the links are from forum signature links.
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Well, it can't be all that bad, I would think. But I'm not an expert on forum marketing and don't personally use this method at all.

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The majority of the links are from forum signature links.
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Originally Posted by jbgal View Post

Per Google keyword tool, that term was supposed to get 1600 exact searches/mo. but I guess #3 is not that big a deal as I'm only getting around 5 uniques/day.
1600 per month would translate to about 53 per day. About 50-60% of those would go to the #1 spot (say 30), 25% to the #2 spot (say 13), 10% to the #3 spot... I'd say 5 per day is normal for this keyword given that volume. Certainly within the expected range. This is why John's targeting 3000 or more searches per month.

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I thought the 3000 figure was total for all the niche keywords for 1 website. I may have misunderstood but I thought John meant we could take keyword 1 with 1500 search + keyword 2 with 1000 searches + keyword 3, 4 & 5 with 500 searches each and make all 5 keywords into 1 website.

I think it would be pretty hard to look for more than 5 keywords within 1 niche ALL with low number of results in quotes + low SOC and ALL with over 3000 searches.

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1600 per month would translate to about 53 per day. About 50-60% of those would go to the #1 spot (say 30), 25% to the #2 spot (say 13), 10% to the #3 spot... I'd say 5 per day is normal for this keyword given that volume. Certainly within the expected range. This is why John's targeting 3000 or more searches per month.
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Originally Posted by jbgal View Post

I thought the 3000 figure was total for all the niche keywords for 1 website. I may have misunderstood but I thought John meant we could take keyword 1 with 1500 search + keyword 2 with 1000 searches + keyword 3, 4 & 5 with 500 searches each and make all 5 keywords into 1 website.

I think it would be pretty hard to look for more than 5 keywords within 1 niche ALL with low number of results in quotes + low SOC and ALL with over 3000 searches.
Yes, but I was just responding to the facts you gave before, one keyword with 1600 searches. Yes, you can use multiple keywords to make up the difference, but each of your pages has to rank for those keywords... do they?

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Originally Posted by jbgal View Post

I thought the 3000 figure was total for all the niche keywords for 1 website. I may have misunderstood but I thought John meant we could take keyword 1 with 1500 search + keyword 2 with 1000 searches + keyword 3, 4 & 5 with 500 searches each and make all 5 keywords into 1 website.

I think it would be pretty hard to look for more than 5 keywords within 1 niche ALL with low number of results in quotes + low SOC and ALL with over 3000 searches.

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Yes, but I was just responding to the facts you gave before, one keyword with 1600 searches. Yes, you can use multiple keywords to make up the difference, but each of your pages has to rank for those keywords... do they?
I'm glad this is being discussed. I want to make sure I understand this correctly too.

Hi Eric,
Could you please explain what you mean above when you said 'each of your pages has to rank for those keywords?'

If a person has keyword 2 with 1000 searches + keyword 3, 4 & 5 with 500 searches - do we still make keyword 2 (1000 searches) a separate page on our website, keyword 3 (500 searches) a separate page on our website, keyword 4 (500 searches) a separate page and keyword 5 (500 searches) a separate page on our website? Or do we combine the keywords that make a total of 1500 all on one page on our website?

Will our website still do well and rank high in the search engines with keyword 3,4,5 only having 500 searches?

Thanks for clarifying.
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Originally Posted by angelah View Post

I'm glad this is being discussed. I want to make sure I understand this correctly too.

Hi Eric,
Could you please explain what you mean above when you said 'each of your pages has to rank for those keywords?'

If a person has keyword 2 with 1000 searches + keyword 3, 4 & 5 with 500 searches - do we still make keyword 2 (1000 searches) a separate page on our website, keyword 3 (500 searches) a separate page on our website, keyword 4 (500 searches) a separate page and keyword 5 (500 searches) a separate page on our website? Or do we combine the keywords that make a total of 1500 all on one page on our website?

Will our website still do well and rank high in the search engines with keyword 3,4,5 only having 500 searches?

Thanks for clarifying.
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Hi angelah, it's better to do one page per keyword, because you can optimize correctly with title and metas. With 4,5 keywords for one page, you cant do the metas, title to target all keywords, so you rank none correctly, and it's pretty hard with writing to focus on everything.

When Eric speaks about ranking, let's imagine that the keyword with 3000 searchs has same competition than the others with 500. You do the work 5 times to rank the 5, so it's easier to focus on one better and do the work one time.

Well, that's my point of view for things

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If a person has keyword 2 with 1000 searches + keyword 3, 4 & 5 with 500 searches - do we still make keyword 2 (1000 searches) a separate page on our website, keyword 3 (500 searches) a separate page on our website, keyword 4 (500 searches) a separate page and keyword 5 (500 searches) a separate page on our website? Or do we combine the keywords that make a total of 1500 all on one page on our website?

Will our website still do well and rank high in the search engines with keyword 3,4,5 only having 500 searches?
Think of it this way: search engines don't rank websites, they rank pages. If you're targeting 5 different keywords, you need to get a page on your site ranked in the top 10 (or better yet, top 5) for each of those keywords. It's hard to do this with a single page, so you end up trying to get different pages to rank for different keywords.

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Glad you "know full well". The rest of us don't.

Posts like yours are irritating. I really have no problem with John's delay. If it takes him a while to put out a good product, so be it. The guy has already offered a refund to anyone who is impatient....and has given terrific content to this thread.

With that being said...my issue, as with others, is John's constant posts and emails of "almost here...few more hours"...then nothing. That's plain ridiculous. And, if you can't understand that, YOU'RE the "knucklehead".

I tell you what, come on by my house and meet my 160 pound Rottweiler "Butch". Start ringing his dinner bell, and when he comes running into the kitchen to eat, just laugh at him and NOT give him his food. It won't take but a few times before Butch takes a bite out of your a$$.

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Enough. Take it to PM's.

John has asked many times to not talk about this crap anymore in this thread so it doesn't get shut down.

I'd hate to see a bunch of people not benefit form this thread anymore because of your public complaining. Take it to PM's. Or just get your refund and be done with it already.
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Glad you "know full well". The rest of us don't.

Posts like yours are irritating. I really have no problem with John's delay. If it takes him a while to put out a good product, so be it. The guy has already offered a refund to anyone who is impatient....and has given terrific content to this thread.

With that being said...my issue, as with others, is John's constant posts and emails of "almost here...few more hours"...then nothing. That's plain ridiculous. And, if you can't understand that, YOU'RE the "knucklehead".

I tell you what, come on by my house and meet my 160 pound Rottweiler "Butch". Start ringing his dinner bell, and when he comes running into the kitchen to eat, just laugh at him and NOT give him his food. It won't take but a few times before Butch takes a bite out of your a$$.

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I wasn't even speaking at you directly, but at the myriad of nonsense directed at people on this forum - good people who would rather succumb to delay in order to improve quality, than to rip people off with substandard work. I was certainly directing that post at more than you, and even more than this thread alone. However, you're making this quite personal and that's a shame.

If my reply irritated you so much, perhaps you need to take a look at your own motivations for being here, because your unwarranted hostility towards me is insolent, insulting, and just plain ridiculous. And calling me a knucklehead personally is not only bad form, it's against forum rules.

If you are so disappointed in John's delay, get your refund mate. No need to lash out at anyone. My point was made and I stand by it, more so now thanks to your vitriol.

I won't hijack this thread with what I would like to say to you, your response alone shows enough lack of respect that I can easily see the type of person John is dealing with in you.

I'm here to help where I can, and be helped when I need it, show people how to make more money in IM, and vise versa. I'm not here to spar with the likes of you over pointless nonsense. And yes, I'm sure your 160 pound Rottweiler could bite me in the ass.

What a ridiculous thing to say.
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Whatever you do, you keep that marvelous brain of yours chugging right along and don't let the negative vibes touch you. You are what you think—and that goes for everybody.

You are achieving the real deal. There are plenty of people who see it.

I love real accomplishment when I encounter it.

Call me a can-doer's cheerleader.

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Please everyone, do take the bickering to PMs or email.

And for those of you are experiencing Armageddon because of my delays,
I've already set the confirmed release for Monday, this Monday, do or
die.

For the rest of you, please continue to ask your questions so that
myself or anyone else with experience can help. That is the entire point
of me sharing with you all my current status of working with Adsense.

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I have found a keyword that I want to buy however the top spots are taken by 2 amazon sites (both PR 6) which apparently can be overtaken according to a another poster here, however the next lot down are target (PR#4) and tower (PR#4). Are these 2 sites also easy to overtake - they aren't listed with the ones that were listed further back in this thread.

thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this.
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Originally Posted by lh1234 View Post

I have found a keyword that I want to buy however the top spots are taken by 2 amazon sites (both PR 6) which apparently can be overtaken according to a another poster here, however the next lot down are target (PR#4) and tower (PR#4). Are these 2 sites also easy to overtake - they aren't listed with the ones that were listed further back in this thread.

thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this.
Are you saying that these are the PR's of the top level domain or the pages.
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the pages...when I type the keyword phrase that I am going to base my domain name on, the top results for the specific term are the
amazon page PR6,
another amazon page PR6,
then the target page PR4,
then the tower page PR4
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hmm,

Well I usually stay away from high pr pages especially if the top 4 are high and the keyword is in the title.

I never came across major retailers in the top four like this and all have high pr pages. I personally probably would pass on this one because I like to target websites that are weak in the top four spots.

With that said if the keyword get a lot of traffic then it might be worth it. Maybe John or Eric can shed some light on this one.

Note: Check to see if the pages have other weakness such as low backlinks and make a decsion on all the factors involved but like I said I would probably pass.



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