[ArtfulWebSites]

John,

Have you ever considered (or tested) also putting some kind of AdSense block at the end of the article on the bottom of each page?

I read somewhere that, psychologically, a viewer is ready to take some action after finishing reading an article (if they DO, in fact, read the article). Giving them something to do (like clicking on your AdSense ad right there) is a good strategy. What do you think?

[kislany]

I've finally taken action. Bought the course yesterday, read it from cover to cover, and last night I started my first little site. Did the keyword research with MNF (lucky me I already have it, really great software), got my new domain (org as the com was taken) with the exact keywords, made a new site from scratch in xsitepro, based on John's template shared in his book, and added two pages to it, and uploaded it to my hosting.
Tonight after my 9-5 I'll start writing articles for Ezines. For the next two weeks I"m away for holiday with no email access, so the articles should be just nicely approved at Ezinearticles by the time i'm back. Will post results once I've returned.

Thanks John for this great thread and your super course!

[msdobe]

John,
That's fantastic! Congratulations and thanks for posting. I've made a copy of your post - it's a great lesson learned!

Jenny

[LIndaB]

Originally Posted by melanied
I spent all morning yesterday modding a WP theme to look like the theme in the book - I got it pretty close, I think.

Melanie, I was thinking about doing the same thing, but haven't been able to figure out an easy way to get those page links at the top. Unless that can be done by editing the header.php file each time you add a page.

[jiajilah]

read lots of stupid questions so i hope mine not stupid -.-"
a keyword with [exact search volume] in google keywords tool shows 10k.
in google search result without "" is 60 million.
search result with "" is 10k.
what do you think?
walk, run or change direction?
does it consider little competition or BIG competition?
without using MNF, usually when you check how competitive is the keyword, are we checking the search result with or without ""?
thank you...

[Magy]

Originally Posted by jiajilah

read lots of stupid questions so i hope mine not stupid -.-"
a keyword with [exact search volume] in google keywords tool shows 10k.
in google search result without "" is 60 million.
search result with "" is 10k.
what do you think?
walk, run or change direction?
does it consider little competition or BIG competition?
usually when you check how competitive is the keyword, are we checking the search result with or without ""?
thank you...

good question (or we think about stupid questions both )
I have the same thing with 900.000 results without quotes and only 600 with quotes, so, most of the websites dont use the exact keyword, but, will it be easy to overtake the sites that dont use it?

[iKenT]

Originally Posted by SoundsGood

No can do. I downloaded it a while back but had a problem with the install, so my free trial period came and went without me getting to try the software.

I had the same problem. It's really easy to solve.

Just email the developers and ask them!

Of course at that time I just signed up for NicheBluePrint and my MS had already expired almost a month earlier. But because NicheBluePrint was using MS, they gave me a 30-day trial. Nice.

I don't know if it will work for you but I always believe it never hurts to ask.

I'd just be honest with them.

Goodluck
iKenT

[mjbromley]

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[andyj00]

Hi John, you are indeed a guru and great ambassador to the internet marketing world!

You have given so much in this thread alone and your ebook is invaluable. I’ve been doing Adsense type sites for over a year and have read it cover to cover and learnt so much.

I am going to try out the techniques exactly as described in your ebook in the next few weeks and see how it goes. Am prepared to put the work in and am looking forward to the success!!!!!

Many thanks again.
Andy

[faith101]

This thread has so many good ideas. Over four years ago making money with Adsense was the reason I came to the Internet to try to make money. But I couldn't get it to work then but with all John has been saying about how it is working for him I'm getting excited again!

[SoundsGood]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

how can an entire site be built around 1 "grill"? After you have reviewed the product, what else is left write about?

This is exactly where I always get hung up.

Home page: "It's a grill. It does this and that."
Next page: "Did I mention it's a grill? And that it does this and that?"
Third page: "Let's see... what else... hmmm."
Fourth page: "Ummmm... I have no idea."

[SoundsGood]

Originally Posted by iKenT

I had the same problem. It's really easy to solve.

Just email the developers and ask them!

Good idea, I might just try that. Thanks.

Although... I'd really like to hear some "Market Samurai vs. MicroNicheFinder" comments from folks in this thread that are using it specifically for XFactor-type AdSense sites.

Anyone?

[peter gibson]

Originally Posted by SoundsGood

Good idea, I might just try that. Thanks.

Although... I'd really like to hear some "Market Samurai vs. MicroNicheFinder" comments from folks in this thread that are using it specifically for XFactor-type AdSense sites.

Anyone?

MicroNicheFinder = Chevrolet Corvette (powerful, dependable, wins races)

Market Samurai = F22 Raptor (uber power, lots of added buttons, can BOMB things)

'nuf said.

[BrightLife]

Originally Posted by SoundsGood

This is exactly where I always get hung up.

Home page: "It's a grill. It does this and that."
Next page: "Did I mention it's a grill? And that it does this and that?"
Third page: "Let's see... what else... hmmm."
Fourth page: "Ummmm... I have no idea."

Third page: "What would you do without that grill?"
Fourth page:"What if everybody had that grill?"
Fifth page:"If this is not a grill what else do you think it could be?"
Sixth page:"For some this is a grill, for me it is religion!"

[SoundsGood]

Originally Posted by BrightLife

Third page: "What would you do without that grill?"
Fourth page:"What if everybody had that grill?"
Fifth page:"If this is not a grill what else do you think it could be?"
Sixth page:"For some this is a grill, for me it is religion!"

I need to hire a writer.

[Jeremy123]

guys there are always other keywords you can find
to add more pages to your site.

I don't think John means create 10 pages using the same keyword,
if you can only find one good keyword for that micro niche, then your site
will be one page.

If you want to add more content, choose other keywords even if they
are not as good you can link each one back to the good keyword page,
those pages also count as backlinks.

[premkumar.raja@gmail.com]

Good Job John, Hopefully i will follow your idea. Thanks anyway!!!!!

[freetechexams]

Great lessons .

[remodeler]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

Thanks for that Jeremy. And I think John has said over and over to find something that works for you.

I may be wrong, but it seems you can have successful adsense sites that don't focus squarely on one particular brand name product. Maybe an example of this is something like "oversized cat litter boxes". If that's a good paying keyword with low competition, why is a particular brand name product associated with that term necessary to make the site successful?

Maybe just find other complimentary keywords for additional pages to the site. I don't know. It just seems to me there has to be more ways than to skin this cat. But who knows, maybe I'm way off base. Won't know until I try.

That's an option I've been using for a while and it works well. Plus...you will never have to be concerned with having your site shut down for using a product domain. There are so many options and ways to go with this. Testing a few different ones is the key for sure. Hasn't that been mentioned a few times though?

[stillstranger]

Hi John,

I feel like I’m late to the party (in terms of price)  When I stumbled on the thread it was already 22 pages. Obviously I started from page #1 and made h-u-g-e list of notices.

Can’t thank you enough for the thread but still have one but very important question.

The fact is that I’m bilingual and I won’t dare to run my IM business in English.

The problem that structures like e-Bay, Amazon and others you mentioned here are not reachable for my targeted customers. I’m talking about Russia. So, as I can see the picture, I won’t be able to build my business on physical products.

On the same time Google.ru is 10y.o. only and IM blooming. I’m positive that won’t be any problem with article marketing and CB already accepts Russian digital products but again refund is up to 90%! and 95% of them about IM, yes one niche only.

I would appreciate some advice here, just simple thoughts will do.

Thank you in advance,

Nina

[melanied]

Originally Posted by mrrichesinniches

Melanied do you mind sharing what theme you used to look similar to what John does. Most of my sites are WP also.

I started with the Super Adsense Theme by Gobala Krishnan but it's HEAVILY modded!

Originally Posted by Richard Odell

Hi melanied, so you are saying that the template worked as well for informational sites as it does for real world product sites. If so this indicates that the format is applicable to all niches, not just physical products.

If so - the sky's the limit!

Without giving to much away, are all are these sites down-loadable products?

-Rich

I don't have enough data yet to make a definitive statement about whether info sites work as WELL as product niches. But I *CAN* say definitively that this template works a HELLUVA lot better than my old one! haha. If that makes sense. Oh, and my info sites are about a range of products - physical, downloadable, you name it - and subjects.

Originally Posted by msalada

I also use WP and have modified a template to look similar to John's. Did you use the header and sidebar colors that John used in his template?

~Marj

Yes, I tried to make it look EXACTLY the same, right down to the font sizes and colors and width and colors of the header, footer, content wrap and sidebar. There's one element of the content wrap I haven't mastered yet, but I won't mention it here in public. Is there a private forum only for course purchasers? That could help...

Originally Posted by LIndaB

Melanie, I was thinking about doing the same thing, but haven't been able to figure out an easy way to get those page links at the top. Unless that can be done by editing the header.php file each time you add a page.

I edited the header.php file, that's how I did it. But you don't have to do it for every page you add. Only once. That's the beauty of php. The main index, single post, and page php files should call for header.php. So you only have to edit it the one time.

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

So, the question I have is that if articles are written for the targeted niche, but don't contain the keywords being promoted on the actual adsense site, that has to be a good thing, right? EZA articles on the first page of Google will drive traffic to the intended sites.

Yes. Although the primary purpose of using EZA is to get backlinks, if your articles also rank then some percentage of the readers viewing that article will click through to your site and some percentage of those will click an ad. But it won't be a large percentage in either case given that the topic of your article has (in general) little to do with the topic of your site.

But hey, an extra click here or there helps.

The REAL benefit of having all those views, though, is that there's more chance the article will be republished on other sites, giving you even more backlinks back to your site.

[Stephen Crooks]

You are kind of missing the point a bit about the point of sending articles to ezinearticles to promote a minisite. Any clicks to your minisite from people reading the articles and your resource box are a bonus. The whole point is to get the SEO benefits of backlinks from ezine and possibly any other sites that use those articles.

It is an interesting concept that John advocates about his article marketing and not one I had thought about before. After reading it though I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work. In fact it will make the article writing process a lot more enjoyable.

Originally Posted by John McEachern

I have a question for John or anyone else who has experience in adsense. I've seen some adsense sites where when I checked their backlinks, all I saw was EZA articles. (Which I thought was kind of nice because it shows me that not just John is using these techniques successfuly.)

But all of their articles were related to the niches they were promoting on their adsense site. (If I recall correctly, John says he only writes 1 out of 10 articles for the directories on the topic of his niche). And quite a few of the EZA articles were ranking on the front page.

So, the question I have is that if articles are written for the targeted niche, but don't contain the keywords being promoted on the actual adsense site, that has to be a good thing, right? EZA articles on the first page of Google will drive traffic to the intended sites.

But is it possible that the payout of any adsense ads clicked on the adsense sites would pay a lower amount than had the traffic been straight from a search engine, rather than EZA?

[Bounderby]

If we are writing articles for backlinks, with the topic ultimately unimportant, would there be anything inherently wrong with just getting a bunch of PLR articles and re-writing them so they are original content?
Opinions?

[mrtrance]

Will Google only count certain amount of links that come from your Ezinearticles to a particular site. Let's say I want to submit 20 articles to Ezine to promote my site. Will these links (40 in this case assuming 2 per resource box) be given the same amount of weight or juice if say I only did 10 to Ezine and then 10 to GoArticles?

Wouldn't it be better to diversify the IPs that the links are coming from? Although Ezine is the best directory since once it's approved it gets indexed within hours compared to GoArticles which can take a few days to indexed (or not even show up in Yahoo Explorer when checking for backlinks).

Any feedback?

[jiajilah]

Thank you for everyone contribute to this thread.
I've been reading for 3 days and finally I'm here
Busying modifying my current websites and see how much it can improve.
Will make it as ugly as possible.

I have 1 doubt, the medium size of adsense seems uglier, what's the font size you guys tested has the best performance?
I'm using the prettier small size.

[pjlyons1uk]

Originally Posted by John McEachern
Thanks, Eric. I don't see how this method can't work. Just throw a bunch of article backlinks at a keyword that has less than 10,000 or so competing pages for the exact keyword phrase and you should be in business. It's just a matter of doing the work. Am I missing something there?
Simple, isn't it?

- John

Question on the above quote... Sorry not so hot on the quoting reply

Am I right then in understanding that the closer or slightly below the 10,000 competing pages with the keyword the better?

If there are below 1,000 pages is that a bad thing ?

Peter

[dv8]

Originally Posted by pjlyons1uk

Question on the above quote... Sorry not so hot on the quoting reply

Am I right then in understanding that the closer or slightly below the 10,000 competing pages with the keyword the better?

If there are below 1,000 pages is that a bad thing ?

Peter

I personally could care less how many competing pages there are.

If the pages are crap, then it doesn't matter if there is 1 of them or 40 million.

[pjlyons1uk]

Originally Posted by dv8

I personally could care less how many competing pages there are.

If the pages are crap, then it doesn't matter if there is 1 of them or 40 million.

I understand and accept that as a statement of fact.

Though 40 Million (I understand the exaggeration) can hardly be called a micro niche.

I know I can review something well enough just need to complete the course in order to set up the page correctly as I guess thats my biggest weakness. I just hope that knowing my weakness will help me overcome that and succeed.

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

I bet Eric can answer that one. Just check out one of the links in his signature.

I'm not a big fan of using raw PLR, despite the name of my tool -- that was a marketing thing, really. Always rewrite the PLR. I find rewriting tedious, mind you.

[barbdear]

John,
I have followed this thread for a couple of weeks ... but have to admit that I get my high from selling "real products" and will probably stick with my Amazon sites. But I just bought your course as a way of saying "thanks" for the karma you bring to the WF. And I'm sure there is plenty of niche research info in your course that I can use on my product sites.

All the best,
Barb

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by Bounderby

If we are writing articles for backlinks, with the topic ultimately unimportant, would there be anything inherently wrong with just getting a bunch of PLR articles and re-writing them so they are original content?
Opinions?

You could do that. You can use almost any content that way if you do a complete rewrite. The US federal government has tons of public domain stuff on health, finances, etc. that can be used in this way.

But you have to do a real rewrite, not just change words here or there. A full rewrite is almost as much effort as writing original content.

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by mrtrance

Will Google only count certain amount of links that come from your Ezinearticles to a particular site. Let's say I want to submit 20 articles to Ezine to promote my site. Will these links (40 in this case assuming 2 per resource box) be given the same amount of weight or juice if say I only did 10 to Ezine and then 10 to GoArticles?

Wouldn't it be better to diversify the IPs that the links are coming from? Although Ezine is the best directory since once it's approved it gets indexed within hours compared to GoArticles which can take a few days to indexed (or not even show up in Yahoo Explorer when checking for backlinks).

From a strict viewpoint, yes, better to split the articles among different directories.

BUT some article directories (like EzineArticles) are much better at "propagating" articles out to other sites. So your 20 articles to EZA may in fact get copied onto many more sites than if you split them across different directories. So in the long run you'll get the benefit of different IPs...

AND if you submit a lot of articles to EzineArticles your author bio will start getting link juice and pass it onto your articles.

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

I just had one other question. Ideally, just go for one major keyword per site with at least 3,000 or so searches, get that site to rank in the first 3 positions in Google and move on to the next site. Is that right? Is that the plan?

Any other keywords chosen for the site are just kind of filler for the site. I'm sure if I want, I can try to rank those other pages - but the first and primary goal is to get the home page ranked because it contains the targeted keyword in the domain, title, and homepage.

Yeah, that's pretty much it.... get your site to rank highly for a low-competition-but-decently-searched-for keyword and make money off the free traffic it brings you.

[remodeler]

Originally Posted by dv8

I personally could care less how many competing pages there are.

If the pages are crap, then it doesn't matter if there is 1 of them or 40 million.

Isn't that the truth. I found one in MNF the other week that showed millions of results but the SOC was a 2. I took a quick look in Google and sure enough...the results were easily beatable. Don't get caught up in the numbers. It can be well worth taking a minute or two and looking over the actual listings to get the facts. You might be shocked at what you'll find.

[EricGiguere]

Originally Posted by pjlyons1uk

Am I right then in understanding that the closer or slightly below the 10,000 competing pages with the keyword the better?

If there are below 1,000 pages is that a bad thing ?

Heck no, the lower the competition numbers, the better your chances of ranking for that keyword!

The problem you'll find is that most keywords that have low competition also have low search counts. The trick is to find low competition keywords with moderate search counts.

[Avidpoet]

For those that use Micro Niche Finder and Market Samurai I thought Id leave a lil tip. Alot of times when I was looking for the Green Button Keywords on Micro Niche Finder as a ways to finding hot keywords I was neglecting the Yellow buttons and at times even the Red Buttons. You can take some of the keywords that have the Yellow and Red Buttons and plug it into Market Samurai and really dig into to see if it is indeed posible to rank for it.

I guess a free way around it is to use the SEO for Firefox Plug In if you dont have Market Samurai. Just thought Id throw that out there so you guys dont get hung up on just the Green Buttons. Especially if you're finding it harder to find keywords

Happy Mining

[BrightLife]

Originally Posted by Avidpoet

For those that use Micro Niche Finder and Market Samurai I thought Id leave a lil tip. Alot of times when I was looking for the Green Button Keywords on Micro Niche Finder as a ways to finding hot keywords I was neglecting the Yellow buttons and at times even the Red Buttons. You can take some of the keywords that have the Yellow and Red Buttons and plug it into Market Samurai and really dig into to see if it is indeed posible to rank for it.

I guess a free way around it is to use the SEO for Firefox Plug In if you dont have Market Samurai. Just thought Id throw that out there so you guys dont get hung up on just the Green Buttons. Especially if you're finding it harder to find keywords

Happy Mining

As I am having MNF and MS I too can only recommend to test the keywords within both softs. The data differs and MS doesn´t hang up so often as MNF with Goggle. MS also gives you a more detailed look "insight", whereas MNF is superior in the quick and dirty method.

[Bounderby]

Something that has just occurred to me; are we looking at local US search volume or Global?

[snowingsomewhere]

Hi John,

Cute baby!

[dv8]

Originally Posted by pjlyons1uk

I understand and accept that as a statement of fact.

Though 40 Million (I understand the exaggeration) can hardly be called a micro niche.

Who cares what it's called. If I can make money from it, you can call it whatever you want. It's just a label.

Originally Posted by EricGiguere

Heck no, the lower the competition numbers, the better your chances of ranking for that keyword!

Again, if the competition is crap, then it doesn't matter. I had a Digg bookmark rank in the 3rd spot on page 1 (within 3 days) with 11 million competing pages.

I don't know why people worry about how many competing pages there are. I'd only be concerned with the top few spots.

[WareTime]

Originally Posted by dv8

I don't know why people worry about how many competing pages there are. I'd only be concerned with the top few spots.

I agree. Many of the pages ranking for a term were not even targeting that term and are easily overcome by someone that is.

Many track where their pages are in the serps for the keyword they are targeting, but how many know of every serp ranking they have? Your site adds to the millions of pages another searcher sees in the results for some obscure word you've never targeted and never will. You might be ranked 9089th for that term, but you still add to the stack of results and surely no one is going to go down to 9089th to see your site and see if they think they can muster the strength to beat you. They'll target the word and blow by 90% + of the serps after putting up a page and writing an article linking to that page.

[remodeler]

Originally Posted by dv8

Who cares what it's called. If I can make money from it, you can call it whatever you want. It's just a label.


Again, if the competition is crap, then it doesn't matter. I had a Digg bookmark rank in the 3rd spot on page 1 (within 3 days) with 11 million competing pages.

I don't know why people worry about how many competing pages there are. I'd only be concerned with the top few spots.

Right on! It's SO easy to over analyze this and get paralyzed into not even getting started. Jump in and just start doin'. Put the tips in this thread and John's book into action. Find a niche, get some keywords, write a couple of pages of content and submit some articles and start making things happen. It relly is that easy. Don't sweat the small stuff.

[melanied]

As far as analyzing the strength of the top 10 search results, I wanted to toss a quick plug for the SEOQuake plugin for Firefox. It's free, and you can click one button to have it return all the parameters it searches (PR, Domain Link, and Page Link are what I mainly look at) and then export the results to csv for later perusal, if you like. Very convenient!

[XFactor]

Just so ya know guys, I'll answer all emails and questions here as soon as
technical support fixed my members area program (amember).

Should have it all fixed by the morning.

- John

[peter gibson]

Originally Posted by melanied

As far as analyzing the strength of the top 10 search results, I wanted to toss a quick plug for the SEOQuake plugin for Firefox. It's free, and you can click one button to have it return all the parameters it searches (PR, Domain Link, and Page Link are what I mainly look at) and then export the results to csv for later perusal, if you like. Very convenient!

I can second that. I have Market Samurai (which I love) but I still find myself using the seo quake and seo for firefox stuff when I'm doing hard research. The convenience is brilliant.

[Kael41]

John, just shot you a pm about something regarding the template..

[bigbyte]

For those that use Wordpress, take a look at the Thesis Theme. You can easily modify it to match John's template with a few clicks and a small custom file for the colors. It's well worth the money

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by ArtfulWebSites

John,

Have you ever considered (or tested) also putting some kind of AdSense block at the end of the article on the bottom of each page?

I read somewhere that, psychologically, a viewer is ready to take some action after finishing reading an article (if they DO, in fact, read the article). Giving them something to do (like clicking on your AdSense ad right there) is a good strategy. What do you think?

Yes I've tested this, but with product sites I like the results better
above the fold.

- John

[XFactor]

Originally Posted by John McEachern

Thanks for that Jeremy. And I think John has said over and over to find something that works for you.

I may be wrong, but it seems you can have successful adsense sites that don't focus squarely on one particular brand name product. Maybe an example of this is something like "oversized cat litter boxes". If that's a good paying keyword with low competition, why is a particular brand name product associated with that term necessary to make the site successful?

Maybe just find other complimentary keywords for additional pages to the site. I don't know. It just seems to me there has to be more ways than to skin this cat. But who knows, maybe I'm way off base. Won't know until I try.

You've got the idea!

Be like liquid, go with the flow... Be willing to change...

- John