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Unread 11th Aug 2009, 08:52 AM   #1301
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Originally Posted by Avidpoet View Post

Have a question that I dont think has been asked. Ive never signed up for an Adsense account would it be smart to sign up now knowing that a human reviewer will review my template or create my first site with enough pages so that it can pass the initial human review before they accept me as an Adsense publisher.
You want to sign up with a website without content? You will never have your account yes. To join, you must do the better you can, so a good website with 10 pages of content and a nice design. The first website is your key, so, you must do your best now!

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You want to sign up with a website without content? You will never have your account yes. To join, you must do the better you can, so a good website with 10 pages of content and a nice design. The first website is your key, so, you must do your best now!
Sorry for confusing you I meant should I sign up with a website like John describes I have a 5 page Adsense style site now but I dont want to let a reviewer look at it especially with the template that we all are using. I understand you though, I should create another website or maybe perhaps buy one that I can use to sign up for an Adsense account.

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BTW John maybe you should mention this to those who dont have an Adsense account
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Men, I am having the worst time trying to upload my template to my host, the site goes up only with the text from my home page, but the template and the other pages are not showing...anybody experiencing the same problem...can someone shed a light?

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Originally Posted by Avidpoet View Post

Sorry for confusing you I meant should I sign up with a website like John describes I have a 5 page Adsense style site now but I dont want to let a reviewer look at it especially with the template that we all are using. I understand you though, I should create another website or maybe perhaps buy one that I can use to sign up for an Adsense account.

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Ho ok, well, the thing is to show that you dont do the website FOR adsense. So if i was you, i will write 5 pages more and add some links to give others choices to your visitors. 10 pages must be enough i think. For the template, use something that looks professional (not something overoptimisized, i will not use a prosense template for a first blog for exemple), you can always change when you have your account. Good luck

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Originally Posted by Lucky500 View Post

Men, I am having the worst time trying to upload my template to my host, the site goes up only with the text from my home page, but the template and the other pages are not showing...anybody experiencing the same problem...can someone shed a light?

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If you have only the text. You have a problem with your css file, the path must be wrong in your html. If you cant go on others pages, it depends, wrong links or an other problem.

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What are you guys/gals using to keep track of all your sites,stats etc?
I mean once you get to like 20-30 sites and more like John it goin to be a headache unless you got something to keep track of them all?
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Originally Posted by Avidpoet View Post

Sorry for confusing you I meant should I sign up with a website like John describes I have a 5 page Adsense style site now but I dont want to let a reviewer look at it especially with the template that we all are using. I understand you though, I should create another website or maybe perhaps buy one that I can use to sign up for an Adsense account.

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Originally Posted by Avidpoet View Post

BTW John maybe you should mention this to those who dont have an Adsense account
Good point, I'll add this reminder to the members area with the other
piles of info I've got to add this week.

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Actually this is what I told my buddy to do when applying for his Adsense account and it does work.

Just create a blogger blog, grab 10 good articles from EZA, post to your blog and then apply for Adsense account. So far, works most of the time.
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Static sites only, Xsitepro (Still using Version 1)

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John, I'm reading this post and when you said that it made me so happy , because I still only have version 1 of XSP.

I thought perhaps I was the only one.

Would love to purchase, but I need a few more 000s in my bank account right now.
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Great thread John...One of, if not THE best I have read here.

I do have a few questions that I have come upon in my research for my first niche adsense site. (Im excited to get this started!)

I have found a couple of gems so far but Im going to risk using the actual "brandnameproductname" as my url because those are the keywords Ill be going after. I just think the CTR has got to be higher when you are aiming at a specific brand name and product then having their adsense links on my site.

I know this has been discussed and John you said you haven't had to take any sites down...yet. Is that the worse that can happen? Ill risk that I guess but I dont want to find myself in court or anything. Has anyone had problems going this route?

Secondly, extensions have been talked about as well but I want someones advice for urls... Assuming "brandnameproductname.com" is taken. Would you choose..."brandnameproductname.net" "brandnameproductname.org" or "brand-name-product-name.com"

There's probably no right way but I just want to make sure Im gonna do this right and not waste my time using a method that wont work.

Oh, and 1 more thing...maybe 2. I don't think this has been brought up, but do you just use one Adsense account? Im assuming yes but not sure how that works. And contact info for the various websites...just one email? or one for each?

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How do I get the file that was attached? I tried to download it but Adobe said it couldn't open it.

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Originally Posted by 3Darmory View Post

Anyway John, I have a question if a site has a traffic 25000/month then what is the expected income from Google adsense. I am just curious. Sounds you are a master in this.

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$356.84 per month

Actually it all depends on how many of your 25000 per month click and then on what the click pays. There is no way for anyone to tell you what this is worth.
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And just a reminder for everyone to do proper split testing. I have been testing John's template against one of my own and I am having 30% better CTRs on my own template. This was tested on one of my existing domains with existing traffic. Your mileage might end up different, but you should never rest and take anything for written in stone.

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maybe google will de-index similar templates, I don't know, but what about all the blogger blogs or default wordpress templates people use or templates people download, as long as the content is unique I would hope there is no problem

but it is always better not to copy exactly

The real threat here is other customers hunting down your sites if you
use the same template.

Even if your page content is all unique, every "template" has code and
stats that can be found online.

So I say the the work on making your own template, it will pay off in the
end.

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Originally Posted by John McEachern View Post

John, I was just curious - how many articles do you think you have published in total on Ezine Articles?
In total? Since I've started over the years?

Probably close to 3,000 - 4,000, maybe more.

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How do I get the file that was attached? I tried to download it but Adobe said it couldn't open it.

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This is something you'll have to iron out with your adobe reader or
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Originally Posted by Matt Helphrey View Post

Great thread John...One of, if not THE best I have read here.

I do have a few questions that I have come upon in my research for my first niche adsense site. (Im excited to get this started!)

I have found a couple of gems so far but Im going to risk using the actual "brandnameproductname" as my url because those are the keywords Ill be going after. I just think the CTR has got to be higher when you are aiming at a specific brand name and product then having their adsense links on my site.

I know this has been discussed and John you said you haven't had to take any sites down...yet. Is that the worse that can happen? Ill risk that I guess but I dont want to find myself in court or anything. Has anyone had problems going this route?
I'm not a lawyer so it would be wrong for me to tell you what will or
will not happen in such a case. I just know of many cases where
this happened and all the person had to do was remove the domain
name.

So please, do your own due diligence in these matters and try to
stay out of trouble


Secondly, extensions have been talked about as well but I want someones advice for urls... Assuming "brandnameproductname.com" is taken. Would you choose..."brandnameproductname.net" "brandnameproductname.org" or "brand-name-product-name.com"

There's probably no right way but I just want to make sure Im gonna do this right and not waste my time using a method that wont work.
This has been discussed in depth in this very thread. There is no wrong
or right way of doing it, just different experiences.

Oh, and 1 more thing...maybe 2. I don't think this has been brought up, but do you just use one Adsense account? Im assuming yes but not sure how that works. And contact info for the various websites...just one email? or one for each?

Thanks again, Matt
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A couple of EzineArticles profile setup questions:

-Do you use your own name or a pseudo name?

-Do you use a profile picture?

EZA seems to like people who use their real name along with a picture in their profile.

Appreciate any and all comments.

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A couple of EzineArticles profile setup questions:

-Do you use your own name or a pseudo name?

-Do you use a profile picture?

EZA seems to like people who use their real name along with a picture in their profile.

Appreciate any and all comments.
You can add as many author names as you want, this way people can't track all the niches your covering.

I'm not sure why you think EZA likes people who use their own names and picture, I have neither and my articles always get approved and rank just fine.
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You can add as many author names as you want, this way people can't track all the niches your covering.
Good point! Thanks for sharing.

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I'm not sure why you think EZA likes people who use their own names and picture, I have neither and my articles always get approved and rank just fine.
No real particular reason, just an impression I got from reading the material. (probably a better word would have been 'prefer') But I do realize EZA is okay with writers that don't use their name of post a picture.

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So a while back in this thread I said I'd give a live update of following the 7-day plan discussed in the book. I deployed a site and submitted three articles. The Googlebot came quickly, as expected, only the site didn't show up in the results. Hmm.... gave it a few days, still nothing. Googlebot was coming regularly, and I have a sitemap, but nothing. Weird. So I added the site to the Webmaster Tools console and discovered that yes, Google was seeing the sitemap but not indexing anything at all.

The upshot: the site had been banned by Google under a previous incarnation.

The good news: after you purchase such a domain, it's easy to add it to Webmaster Tools and file a reinclusion request with Google. If your site is legitimate (which it is -- we're only talking whitehat stuff here) then there should be no problems, especially if you explain in the comments that you just bought the domain and have no association with its past history and that you've put up good, real content on the site.

That's what I did late yesterday. Site is now #1 for exact match and #9 for broad. I've seen one visit from a Google search query already this morning.

Something to keep in mind if your site doesn't show up at all in the search results...

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First off,

John, awsome thread! I've learned a ton from here and your ebook. Priceless info!

Micro Niche Finder,

Been using it for years with no problems. Now, after I've been clicking on a bunch of the "SOC"'s, all of a sudden, they all start to show "0". I thought this was great at first, then realized there was a problem!

Anyone else having this problem and what can be done to fix it? It's as if Google is temporarily banning my IP. When I insert my wireless card and switch ISP's, I"m able to continue on, at least until I start to see the "0"'s again ten minutes later.

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Google IS banning your IP address. MNF works by scraping data from the AdWords Keyword Tool and from the search engine... so if you use it too much or too quickly, you get banned temporarily... the MNF docs mention this.

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It's either Google banning your OR you don't have the latest version of Micro Niche Finder. I think the latest version fixed that exact issue.
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yes, the latest version has fixed it, no worries
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Micro Niche Finder,

Been using it for years with no problems. Now, after I've been clicking on a bunch of the "SOC"'s, all of a sudden, they all start to show "0". I thought this was great at first, then realized there was a problem!

Anyone else having this problem and what can be done to fix it? It's as if Google is temporarily banning my IP. When I insert my wireless card and switch ISP's, I"m able to continue on, at least until I start to see the "0"'s again ten minutes later.

Pearson
This happened to me. I found out that Google blocks you temporarily if you try to pull too much information. I had checked off many sites and got all the data from them then and then when I did another search I got nothing. It should clear after 2-3 hours. At least mine did.
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When using MNF, set it up to use the background downloader and you won't have that problem. There are instructions in the user guide on how to do this. This way you just queue up a bunch of them and let it go, then come back later and all your values are there.

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When using MNF, set it up to use the background downloader and you won't have that problem. There are instructions in the user guide on how to do this. This way you just queue up a bunch of them and let it go, then come back later and all your values are there.
Also, you eventually get a "feel" for what keywords to check the stats
for.

I very rarely click them all and just hit go. Nowadays, I can almost look
at a keyword, then decide to click the SOC, Comp, etc.

Of course this comes with time and experience, like any skill.

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In MNF, a safe way of getting many SOC's is:

Check a handful of keywords.
Click "Get Checked SOC" at the top of page.
In "Search Engine Courtesy" select "Maximum", then click Continue.

By selecting Maximum will allow a 15 sec gap between getting the data. Its a great way of getting the data reasonably quick without being temp banned from Google search.
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Also, you eventually get a "feel" for what keywords to check the stats
for.

I very rarely click them all and just hit go. Nowadays, I can almost look
at a keyword, then decide to click the SOC, Comp, etc.

Of course this comes with time and experience, like any skill.

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Yes, I still don't have that "feel" yet, but I do go through and eliminate the keywords with searches less than 500 first.

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This is THE longest thread I've ever read!

Sad that a lot of info is in here and some of the people don't bother reading it... and John ends up answering the same questions over and over.

I appreciate your sincerity, I've developed a different way of working with adsense, but as you say "there is no one-way of doing something online", yet I've learned a lot reading this thread, it has been very useful. Dozens of little details that have been cleared out, I love how the WF community works! The mere summary of the thread is truly worth the prize of your book.

I sense a lot of hesitation, many people want to know all before they take the first step, to them I say- Close your eyes and dive in, that's the only way you'll get the hang of it!
Again, great thread (Kudos John!) and success to all!

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John, do you have any plans of setting up a support forum inside the members' area of your Adsense masters' course?


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A couple questions.

1) Should I use a doshdosh theme? I have read that they have his own adsense script attached. That sounds sketch as ****. Any wp theme alternatives?

2) When choosing keywords it is good to go for ones that have amazon on the first page? Is that because it is easy to outrank them... or that just generally means they have less competition and getting a high rank is possible but not in front of amazon?
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"Of course this comes with time and experience, like any skill."

John's on target with this statement. I've been doing this for a couple of years now. You do so many of these sites after a while that you start building a site around a domain name keyword that you envision someone sitting halfway across the country typing on the computer for YOUR keyword. Some questions that pop up into my mind when i'm figuring out whether i'm going to purchase that domain name keyword is:

"could i really see someone typing that into google?"
"Is this something that someone would type and then move on to BUY/USE/SELL something?"
"Is this a term that will lead them onto further investigation on my site and thus cause decent clickthroughs?"

Remember folks, the name of the game is "provide enough DECENT info to enable redirection through your outbound adsense links". That's it. Finit, end of story. Get them in, and then provide a wide open door to get them out.
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Originally Posted by LikeBarryBonds View Post

A couple questions.

1) Should I use a doshdosh theme? I have read that they have his own adsense script attached. That sounds sketch as ****. Any wp theme alternatives?

2) When choosing keywords it is good to go for ones that have amazon on the first page? Is that because it is easy to outrank them... or that just generally means they have less competition and getting a high rank is possible but not in front of amazon?
Why don't you read this thread completely? The answer to your questions is already in here ....

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Thanks,

I've downloaded the latest version of MNF and it seems to have fixed the problem.

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Originally Posted by ayolov View Post

This is THE longest thread I've ever read!

Sad that a lot of info is in here and some of the people don't bother reading it... and John ends up answering the same questions over and over.

I appreciate your sincerity, I've developed a different way of working with adsense, but as you say "there is no one-way of doing something online", yet I've learned a lot reading this thread, it has been very useful. Dozens of little details that have been cleared out, I love how the WF community works! The mere summary of the thread is truly worth the prize of your book.

I sense a lot of hesitation, many people want to know all before they take the first step, to them I say- Close your eyes and dive in, that's the only way you'll get the hang of it!
Again, great thread (Kudos John!) and success to all!
I am sure somebody broke can make a quick $500 by summarizing this thread and launching a WSO. I personally gave up after reading up to page 8. I would happpily pay $10 to get a summary of the relevant points without having to read and re-read the same comments.

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Funny thing. I have over 20 mini sites sitting in Google, positions 5-9, page one.

I've been working on those sites quite a bit over the last 3 weeks, but the rankings haven't changed (not even by 1 position!).

I checked my keywords on Google caffeine today, and I'm #1 for all of the target phrases. And I mean all, all 20 sites are sitting right at the top for their keywords. When is that god damn update going live? lol
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Here's a tip for international users: you can easily check your positioning in Google for American visitors by using the free AdWords Ad Preview Tool. Makes it really easy. Conversly, Americans can use it to check out their rankings in other parts of the world.

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Originally Posted by magwoi View Post

I am sure somebody broke can make a quick $500 by summarizing this thread and launching a WSO. I personally gave up after reading up to page 8. I would happpily pay $10 to get a summary of the relevant points without having to read and re-read the same comments.

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Mag,

I believe there's still an attachment on this thread with a "mind map" of sorts. Not quite a summary, but definitely helpful in highlighting the main points.

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Originally Posted by magwoi View Post

I am sure somebody broke can make a quick $500 by summarizing this thread and launching a WSO. I personally gave up after reading up to page 8. I would happpily pay $10 to get a summary of the relevant points without having to read and re-read the same comments.

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Mag,

I believe there's still an attachment on this thread with a "mind map" of sorts. Not quite a summary, but definitely helpful in highlighting the main points.

Mark
Yeah, I made a mindmap. No need to pay $10. See attached.

I could probably edit it and make it a little better. Perhaps I'll get around to that later today.
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Originally Posted by bay37 View Post

Funny thing. I have over 20 mini sites sitting in Google, positions 5-9, page one.

I've been working on those sites quite a bit over the last 3 weeks, but the rankings haven't changed (not even by 1 position!).

I checked my keywords on Google caffeine today, and I'm #1 for all of the target phrases. And I mean all, all 20 sites are sitting right at the top for their keywords. When is that god damn update going live? lol

There is a thread here:

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...nks-proof.html


The OP did a test and noticed in Google Caffeine they rank pages dependent on on page SEO rather than Backlinks. He did a test and his site ranked better in the new Caffeine because of his on page SEO factors. If thats the case I think alot of us will rank well in the new Google for the simple fact that we have the keywords in the Domain name, Meta Descriptions and H1 tags.
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Originally Posted by dv8 View Post

Yeah, I made a mindmap. No need to pay $10. See attached.

I could probably edit it and make it a little better. Perhaps I'll get around to that later today.
Thanks for your efforts, dv8.

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Concerning multi-word keywords:

I found a product-specific 5-word keyword phrase in a niche keyword "family" with 25+ other ideal keywords. This phrase gets 21K searches per month with only 5900 competing sites. You can bet that I'll add this phrase to my site, even though it has "too many words."

John is right, there are millions of untapped keywords.

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Originally Posted by Avidpoet View Post

There is a thread here:

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...nks-proof.html


The OP did a test and noticed in Google Caffeine they rank pages dependent on on page SEO rather than Backlinks. He did a test and his site ranked better in the new Caffeine because of his on page SEO factors. If thats the case I think alot of us will rank well in the new Google for the simple fact that we have the keywords in the Domain name, Meta Descriptions and H1 tags.
Yeah I read that thread. I do not agree with his "test" results. Also, I *know* that my situation has nothing to do with on page SEO.

They have simply stopped updating the rankings for my sites. I mean, a site with 0 backlinks goes straight to position 7.

Then 3 weeks later I have over 600 backlinks (articles, bookmarks, profiles, web 2.0 blogs) pointing to the site, yet it is still sitting in position 7. A sandbox of sorts, only on page one.

Same thing across many, many datacenters (site was #7 three weeks ago, still is. * 20). In the Caffeine beta all of my sites are in positions 1-2. Can't be a coincidence.
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Originally Posted by bay37 View Post

Yeah I read that thread. I do not agree with his "test" results. Also, I *know* that my situation has nothing to do with on page SEO.

They have simply stopped updating the rankings for my sites. I mean, a site with 0 backlinks goes straight to position 7.

Then 3 weeks later I have over 600 backlinks (articles, bookmarks, profiles, web 2.0 blogs) pointing to the site, yet it is still sitting in position 7. A sandbox of sorts, only on page one.

Same thing across many, many datacenters (site was #7 three weeks ago, still is. * 20). In the Caffeine beta all of my sites are in positions 1-2. Can't be a coincidence.
Wow 600 backlinks. I think you are building backlinks way too fast. Usually when people build too much backlinks too fast they end up on page 100 or something. Maybe as we are targeting low competition keywords the effect may not be so drastic. Why not build them slower. If I remember correctly you are using UAW. You may want to stagger the submissions. UAW may even be too powerful for this strategy.

If you think about it, John only submits to Ezinearticles or GoArticles with an average of 15 articles per website. So that is like only 15 quality backlinks total and may even be less in reality as they are coming from the same site. Then he may only submit 1 article every 2-3 weeks if the ranking is going down.

Lets say the top sites in your niche has no more than 100 backlinks maximum for each site and a brand new website shows up gaining 600 backlinks in 3 weeks, then this may signal a red Flag.

I was also thinking of doing some mass article submission but at a staggered pace, but it may really be an overkill for this strategy. Probably I might just submit to 10 high quality article directories, a handful of web2.0 sites, submit rss feed for the site and see what happens.


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Kevin,

I stopped using UAW. Tried Bookmarking Demon, didn't like it either. Doing everything manually again. That is just me though. I'm getting pretty good at all this backlinking stuff and I love it!

Perhaps it is some kind of a penalty, as you said... I was thinking the same. That can't be bad though, I don't mind waiting a month or so if it means top spots for all of my keywords. Though I may have to slow down a little bit. Perhaps do some testing with Ezine/GoArticles.

I normally build links from a) profiles b) do-follow SBs c) web 2.0 blog posts and d) article directories (3-4 quality directories). So its not just 600 SB or directory links pointing to the same page.

Btw, I found the "soc" numbers on MNF to be highly inaccurate. Around half of my target keywords have a soc of 300-5000, the other half are 5-30 - all rank the same, more or less (like page one position 6 for soc 20; position 8 for soc 5000).
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Originally Posted by Richard Odell View Post

600 backlinks of what?

Are they from relevant sites or just high PR?

2 or 3 links from relevant sites (IE: any thing closely linked with anything to do with your niche) is far better than all this mishmash of social bookmarking and 2.0 websites (even God forbid should I even say it - Articles Directories ).

Relevant sites that Google can actually look at and say - "yes that link is recommended by a site that has real authority, as it related in to the theme of your site".

You folks are making this all too hard for yourselves :rolleyes:

-Rich
Well can you enlighten us with some of your backlinking strategies?Any help or knowledge that you can provide would be appreciated
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