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Yeah, I used to think that way too. Let me just say that to me this is all a numbers game at the moment. Once I get out of that sandbox or whatever, if my sites hit the top spots all across the board - as they currently rank on the Caffeine beta - I'm going to be more than happy. And I will repeat the whole process at least * 365 over the next 365 days. High PR authority links from related websites are very hard to get. Or expensive. At least for mini sites. | |
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Lots of my sites are not even getting indexed too and it's been over a week, I've pinged them, bookmarked them, wrote articles, you name it. When I check AW stats most of them say Google bot has visited the site, yet they're still not indexed. The only thing I hate about doing this is waiting! When I'm pumped and excited to get this going Google makes me wait! I want to build more sites, submit more articles, but I can't tell which sites need more backlinks since none of them are moving. Once I start to actually make decent progress I am sure I won't mind anymore. | |
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D3t0x, I'm 100% completely in the same boat as you. It sucks. Really, sucks. I've been going hard at this for two weeks (I'm laid off at the moment - so, yea, I have been) with nothing to show for. I haven't given up, I've got to get this to work. Funny thing I had one site I registered, threw content up on did everything I was supposed to do and brushed it off to the side and didn't have ANYTHING linked to this site. (no articles had been approved yet) So guess which site gets indexed the fastest? The site I didn't link a bloody single thing toward. Then the one site I was working pretty hard core with in terms of articles took the longest to get indexed, I was working hardest at this particular one because of the potential results. It's the feeling of fighting a brick wall. But it finally did get indexed - directly after within the same day of tossing a couple random SB's at it. Then the day afterwards googlebot finally crawled the pages aside from it just acknowledging the domain existed. And now, I've got quite a good deal of articles with only about half showing as back links yet and only a quarter of those showing up with the correct anchor text linking back to my sites. My sites have shown up and have only been slipping. One of my sites was ping ponging back and forth before it began a gradual descent. The rest just descended. So yea I'm pumped and not looking for a get rich quick thing. I'm working at it. I understand it requires work. I'm not afraid of work. I've actually got a pretty good work ethic. Hell the only days I ever took off work from my previous job of 10 years was when the wife was giving birth. That's not a joke either lol. So yea. Life would be so blissful if back links started to pop up. I took Johns suggestions about where he talks about the article directories as well too. I do have one niche site I made in early 2008 and whenever I check in on adsense and I see a little bit of something show up I get all bloody excited and check my adsense channels expecting something is finally going to start showing up and it's that blasted early 2008 niche site of mine. I'll keep at it. Not like I have anything else to do. But man. Results would be neat. I "get" the whole snowball effect. But I'm behind the snowball trying to get it to move. If it budged I'd be so excited. |
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About article marketing, i have one big problem, i write in french, so, no authority websites like ezinearticles. I have found 5 article directories with PR3, one with PR4, and i just have goarticles with a PR6 where i can write in french (maybe you know other directories that allow foreign writers?) So, what would you do if you were in my case? I rewrite my article and submit in all directories? Or i focus only on one? If i write 10 articles on the same site, that will count like 10 BL? Thanks. | |
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I'm currently working on some articles to send to the article directories. Unfortunately, my current site is built around a 4-keyword phase; which rules out Ezine Articles. Have used GoArticles and just signed up for ArticlesBase; but after further research, i've discovered that ArticlesBase is a nofollow site and will get little benefit from submitting my articles there. Can anyone recommend any quality article directories that can pass some link-love onto our little sites? Thanks Mark.. |
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14th Aug 2009, 09:35 AM | #1363 | |
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any site I work on. I do not think about how soon it gets indexed, or how fast it climbs in rankings. I find a niche, build a site, start getting my backlinks, then start another site, so on and so forth. Some sites rank very fast, others take a month, then longer to hit those main keywords. Some sites never hit those main keywords. This game is more mental than anything, because the search engines are unpredictable beyond basic SEO. - John | |
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but give it a good 6 months to reach any appreciate goals. If I were starting from scratch again, I would set a 1-year goal to work hard on my sites, SEO & article marketing, then evaluate my progress. Of course, a 1-year stopping point to evaluate is not realistic for many people, because they want to make sure something is working. I just have total confidence in my work, so perhaps a 12-week point would be better for most. - John | |
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Hi everyone, So many experienced people are here. Unfortunately I’m only beginner. I've started my IM journey learning Dreamwever and Photoshop. So far I’ve created one website which is too big and takes too much of maintenance. John’s method attracts me very much and I would like to follow but my problem is that I'm missing one thing in terms of site building - a sidebar with background color. Maximum what I could achieve is bgcolor in part of sidebar WITH content and NOT on whole height of it. In my first site I'd to cheat and use white bg so it doesn't show but with John’s method it won't work, site will look too primitive and won't look business like at all. So, my question is - How to fix sidebar background color on full height of it? I’m stuck, please help me out, Thank you in advance. |
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John, can I ask you how much, on average, you make per mini site? Because so far my experience has been: Say a phrase gets around 3600 searches/month. I'm in position 6 on page one for that keyword. I noticed that I get around 20 visits/day for such keywords. Then another 5-10 visits for random (related) keywords. Total of 28 (avg.) visitors per day. My avg. ctr is only 12%, but let's say I somehow manage to hit 25%. That would give me 7 clicks/day/website. Currently I average around 0.24-0.27 cents per click. That is $1.75/day per website (assuming a 25% ctr. In reality I only make around 75 cents/day/website). In the best case scenario, I would need over 100 mini sites to hit $200/day. In reality (my experience so far after launching 20 sites) - around 260 sites. It might get better later on, once I hit the top 3 in Google for some of the keywords. Let's say I triple the traffic, but that is still over 85 mini sites to hit $200/day. Now let's assume that I manage to get the avg. ctr (across all of my sites) to around 25% (double) - thats 45 mini sites to reach $200/day. This is assuming: 1. I'm targeting keywords that avg. 3600 searches/month. 2. I rank in the top 3 for at least 70% of my keywords. 3. I make an avg. of $0.26/click. 4. My avg. ctr is at least 25%. That is a quite a mission. Could anyone else whos actually working at this share their experience? Not theoretical, but first hand, real life, tried and tested experience... final note: I have no problem launching 50 or even 100 sites over a period of time. What bothers me is the fact that I'm completely relying on Google, and if something happened to my Adsense account, 2-3 months of hard work, well, you know. |
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First of all, you are right - you are relying on Google and all other search engines. And if that bothers you and prevents progress then my suggestion is to enter the paid-advertisement area, which many millions of dollars are made daily. Second, as I've mentioned before, there is no "average" income that all sites make. Some sites make $1 and change, others are making up near $300 per month. All were approached the same way, but the results vary and cannot really be predetermined. Someone posted on this thread already, that, this business is like playing the lottery (but with better odds). And you never know which domains are going to hit the jackpot. - John | |
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If anyone's stuck for keyword ideas, a paid service that's pretty good is "InstaCash Keywords" from Travis Sago (Mr. "Bum Marketing") and Matt Davis. Each day they deliver topic ideas with low-competition keyword lists. It costs $47/month, but there's a 7-day trial for $5. I've certainly gotten some niche ideas that I wouldn't have thought of from them...
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I'm guessing you are using a CSS template - doesn't matter what that means You can: 1) Use a table for your main setup of two columns, one for the content one, for the right hand sidebar. Set the column on the right hand side to have the correct background color or whatever the term is and it just works. 2) Continue using what you are using. Create a graphic, a single rectangle of one or more pixels wide and, and set it to the background of the <div> that contains BOTH the main and the sidebar. Let's say your main window is 760 pixels wide and side bar is 160 of those pixels wide. The graphic is white for the leftmost 600 pixels (760 minus 160) and green (or whatever sidebar color you want) for the rightmost 160 pixels. Then you apply so that it repeats vertically. I use adobe elements to create my graphic with some trouble In my CSS file I have: /*==== mainpage container ===*/ #maincontain {width:760px; background:#ffffff url('images/backgroundimage.jpg' repeat-y) } They say it in more detail here: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/;} Using a Table is WAY easier. CSS sucks in many ways. Figuring this out wasted a few hours! | |
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Good job. I just got my first site up today. Makes me feel like a slacker but I just recently discovered this thread and picked up the ebook. I mostly do ecommerce but I'm going to do 2 sites a week for a month or so and see how it goes. If the results are good, I will increase production. If you have left me any keywords |
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I'm getting ready to update the course with a new action plan, to slow down the link building a bit. Just some feedback from my customers, as this is not about how "many" sites you have, but how well they are promoted. - John | |
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Hey there: What indicators tell you that one of your sites has no future no matter how hard you work on it? That it is a miserable failure that deserves to be deleted? In such case, is it possible to modify the name of the domain to start with a new product from scratch? When you have a list of candidates (different products) after doing Kw research, how do you know which one is the best and so on? If I choose a KW and .com, .org and .net are taken, What is preferable doing: adding a suffix or going for .info domain? Thank you |
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Thank you, John...this solidifies the track I have been going down and will continue building niche sites. I'm using Wordpress and Heatmap theme which really rocks for adsense and configurability. Brad |
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If you have a list of good candidates, do them all.... it's not hard, just takes time. Then let performance tell you which one is best! Avoid .info, stick to the well-known TLDs like .com, .net, .org and whatever country code you're used to seeing. | |
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Add another word after the keyword then go for a .com is more prefered than going for a .info.
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Well I'm pretty happy now. Just hit 10th position on the first page for a keyword searched 8,100 times a month with no back links or anything lol. Who knows if it will hold up though!
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I was looking for some info about SEO strategies and i found that post. http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-increase.html Do you think it's a good strategy for our minisites? Or it's too much work, or too powerful in our case? I repeat that i dont want too take risks and have my website sandboxed, i am just looking at the best way to do that's looks natural and will be good in long term. Thanks for help guys. | |
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Guys, just to let you know. I'm working on an install video for the wordpress theme I created. Again, this will ONLY be made available to purchasers of John's course. John's had the theme for a while now and has seen it..and it is good |
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I'm looking forward to the wordpress theme option along with testing my own templates.
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Yeah, i will not follow the list. A lot of web 2.0 services here arent for foreign languages, so i will start with wordpress and blogger that allow french writing. I will speak about my results later | |
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Since some of you are using wordpress, I think you may be interested in this thread. You would not want to do all that work and be wondering what is going on. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-few-days.html Kevin. |
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Hey maybe John or someone else could answer this. My mini site finally got ranked in the 1st position for my main keyword. When I search google using Safari my site comes up 1st on the first page. Then I searched using Firefox and my site ranks on the 8th page of google. What exactly is going on with that? |
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I know people want to make money fast, but the reality is with seo, things take some time. Age plays a part, a good idea is to register many domains now, put up a home page and let it sit and age like fine wine. Also I have noticed since I started using add-on domains, that since my main domain on my hosting account is 3+ years and has many articles, that that age and size may carry over. Add-on domains get indexed pretty quick. But either way the more sites you make and the more content you add, the more income you can potentially make with adsense. I have a site that is 3+ years old it was avg. $9.00 a day for the month of Aug. 2008, I started adding articles in the fall 2008 and getting some links. Now aug 1st 2009 to today that one site avg. $25.00 a day. The site is only a pr 1. You can make more money with any site by adding articles and getting more links. Also important, use google sitemaps, that site was stuck at 150-160 pages indexed, now it is up to 214 pages indexed after installing google sitemaps. Where will your business be 5 years from now, get those domains aging and start adding content. |
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just sign out of your google account, gmail, adsense account. I have all my google accounts under one username and password, so if I login into adsense, or gmail, or webmaster tools etc. then my personalized search will be active if I search, when I want to check rankings, I just sign out. |
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definition of "failure" is different. All of my sites become profitable, but then again I've been doing this for a while now. So I personally would never delete a domain, however if you are working your tail off and the earnings never see anything steady, then you may want to move on.
this week I'm going to build and launch this 'tomatoe juice' website."
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Well, i will go for that way (for a first try and to get some experience). I am fully prepared with writing now (11 websites built in august and online, waiting for promotion). | |
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Very interesting. Will your program be available on clickbank?
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XFactor has mentioned before that he uses small pictures above his title, so thought I'd mention the resource I use to get free and 100% legit photos www.morguefile.com No connection, just a happy user. Beats possible problems with grabbing images online and copyright issues. Now off to grab some images for my frog, donkey, and large purple paperclip niche sites |
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thanks very much. i will implement this info and sure ill let you guys know of my success. :-)
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