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Use this site as PBN or 301 redirect

by mkgg
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So i grabbed a domain that has some amazing backlinks from a few authority sites, sites like kotaku (PR7) and other high PR sites (huffingtonpost.com even!). A link from one of these sites alone will shoot the stats to the roof but in this case it isn't.

The thing is majestic CF/TF are showing very low when it should have been higher considering the high authority backlinks. The TF is 4 and CF is 6 and this has me wondering should i just 301 redirect the whole domain to my site or use it as part of a PBN ?. I don't know if it will bring any benefit considering the low cf/tf but it could be because the domain was dropped for sometime ?.

This has me really confused and i am not sure if i should waste money setting up hosting for it or get its cf/tf up by doing some link building to it myself or redirect instead to my site. Which one will be the most beneficial ?.

Here are some stats
DA 17 PA 23


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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Was the domain out of the index recently?
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  • Profile picture of the author mkgg
    PMed the site.

    No idea really, it is indexing fine in google now (showing godaddy page).
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  • Profile picture of the author yd143
    I would not do any of that. It's not a good site to link to your money site. If you have already bought it, start a blog on it with some fresh content. not very fresh just copy-scape passed and create good back links to it and just wait for next pr update which is coming soon. after posting near about 10 articles on blog and link to some authority sites from the blog posts and after waiting for couple months just post a contextual article on home page and link it to you. That is the best idea with shared heap hosting. just keep it separate from your pbn.

    lets see what others say - i really want to see what experts say about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author mkgg
      Originally Posted by yd143 View Post

      I would not do any of that. It's not a good site to link to your money site. If you have already bought it, start a blog on it with some fresh content. not very fresh just copy-scape passed and create good back links to it and just wait for next pr update which is coming soon. after posting near about 10 articles on blog and link to some authority sites from the blog posts and after waiting for couple months just post a contextual article on home page and link it to you. That is the best idea with shared heap hosting. just keep it separate from your pbn.

      lets see what others say - i really want to see what experts say about it.
      Wait what...you said its not a good site to point to my money site then you advise waiting for the pr update (which is supposedly coming soon) and then its good enough to point to my money site ?. Can you explain how, when google updates its toolbar pagerank, then it becomes a good site ?. Did you even read what you posted, seriously ?.

      Then you diss your own post by saying what experts say about it meaning you are no expert so i don't really get your position as the giver of the advice ?.

      Sigh...anyway i have decided to use it as part of my pbn and see if it gives any results then 301 redirect if it doesn't. It is related to my niche so the redirect is not going to do anything bad i hope. Doing any sort of backlinking to it makes the whole point of buying the domain pointless.
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      • Profile picture of the author yd143
        Originally Posted by mkgg View Post

        Wait what...you said its not a good site to point to my money site then you advise waiting for the pr update (which is supposedly coming soon) and then its good enough to point to my money site ?. Can you explain how, when google updates its toolbar pagerank, then it becomes a good site ?. Did you even read what you posted, seriously ?.

        Then you diss your own post by saying what experts say about it meaning you are no expert so i don't really get your position as the giver of the advice ?.

        Sigh...anyway i have decided to use it as part of my pbn and see if it gives any results then 301 redirect if it doesn't. It is related to my niche so the redirect is not going to do anything bad i hope. Doing any sort of backlinking to it makes the whole point of buying the domain pointless.
        sorry mate - i am still learning and that's why i said lets see what experts say about it. but i dont think that this website will give you any increase in your rankings.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Make sure you check it with http://www. in front at Majestic.

          Lately I did some testing with 301 redirects, by the time the number of redirects reached 4 it seems that Google ignored all 4 of them completely as the rankings dropped back to the initial rankings before the redirects were set up.

          Those were redirects from irrelevant domains btw.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
    As with nik0, I've tried 301ing some domains instead of using them for a PBN and I've not had much success. Building a PBN seems to be far more effective but that's probably not surprising given the control you then have over the anchor text.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Steve Waller View Post

      As with nik0, I've tried 301ing some domains instead of using them for a PBN and I've not had much success. Building a PBN seems to be far more effective but that's probably not surprising given the control you then have over the anchor text.
      It did work with the first two redirects but even then the results were poor and it caused the inner page they were pointed at too tank, yeah no kidding, however that inner page linked to the homepage and thus the homepage rankings increased for the same keywords that the inner page was ranking for so all was fine with me till that point.

      The two redirects came from relatively cheap PR3 domains ($50 range), the 2 more redirects that I setup came from a $400 costing PR5 domain and a $225 costing PR4 and then it went wrong even more, as in the rankings went back to where it was. I broke the redirects and set them up as private network sites, linked back to the money site and saw decent jumps in rankings. Later on I redirected that tanked inner page to the homepage of the site as I decided to make it a static homepage and rankings remained stable and slowly kept on climbing for many weeks, site is still doing great now so it's good to know that when you redirect from irrelevant domains that it's risk free when you decide to cancel them.

      But anyway, it simply makes no sense to redirect irrelevant domains due to the minor increase in rankings, just not cost effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkgg
    So i finally got off my lazy ass and set up the site as a PBN like a couple weeks ago and waited patiently for results. Well whad'ya know google re-crawled all the pages within a day (they were indexed already but showing blank pages) and my keyword jumped straight from #30 to #16 the same day. /me is very pleased .

    A few things definitely helped here, the domain was indexed already and i re-created the old content with high metrics again and put my links in a paragraph related to the keyword i was trying to rank, the domain is in same niche as me so the link was highly relevant. It has been a week now and the rankings have been stable so its definitely going to stay.

    Interesting thing about those majestic metrics is now the site has less pointing domains/backlinks but now the metrics are 5/11 TF/CF, ahrefs is consistent though. I think i am going to value moz's PA/DA more now as their metrics truly showed the value of the domain according to the results it gave me now (the site is easily PR2).

    Thanks everyone for the replies!.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOWizard417
    Glad to hear you got such good results. Gotta agree with going with moz stats. In general, PA and DA seem to be a better indicator of site quality. Although moz seems to have the smallest database of back links, their metrics seem to provide a better picture.
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  • Profile picture of the author Laubster
    Hate to burst your bubble but that site has no power. PA/DA can be manipulated with SPAM, Trust Flow cannot. And given the CF is low that site has almost zero power. You don't have to believe me, just run CF/TF on any high quality domain (like a .Edu or .Gov). You'll see what I mean.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOWizard417
    It's true that metrics can be manipulated, but a look at the link profile can help you determine if that's the case or not. Sounds like OP has already investigated the link profile and got a nice boost from using the domain.
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