Do PR0 backlinks still hold any weight?

by Zodiax
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If you want to go the traditional route of organic traffic, do you think PR0 links will still work? If not, what are some low-budget ways that take hard work, to get some higher level backlinks?

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  • Profile picture of the author stevenjacobs
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    they hold a little but not worth as much as pr 1 -9
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Link-juice (like almost everything else in internet marketing) depends on two main things: relevance and quality.

    SEO topics belong here, you know? Search Engine Optimization
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonny2spoons
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Link-juice (like almost everything else in internet marketing) depends on two main things: relevance and quality.

      SEO topics belong here, you know? Search Engine Optimization
      That's right. You're better changing your mindset from looking at PR to looking at other, more important metrics. The short answer is YES they are still worthwhile, but there is a lot more to consider than just the PR.

      You could quite easily get more link juice from a PR0 site than say a PR6 site, it all depends on the circumstances and the domains in question. For example, I would rather get a PR0 link from someone in my niche who has great content and wants to feature my website rather than page for a "PR5" backlink from fiverr which is probably going to be worthless at best, if not actually very harmful.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOJerry
    The PR rank actually does not mean anything in itself, it is just a tool to give you a bench mark of what Google thinks of the site. You want relative links first and foremost, but I also try to stay away from the PR0 sites no matter what.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEOWizard417
      PR0 links can still add some value to your site. Keep in mind that PR is not the only metric or factor to consider. Are you getting a link from a blog post or blog comment? Things like Linktype, relevance and outbound links also play a big role. A PR 0 link from a relevant blog post would provide more value than a PR 4 blog comment link with hundreds of outbound looks. You need to consider the bigger picture and not just focus on one aspect.
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    • Profile picture of the author testoman
      Originally Posted by SEOJerry View Post

      The PR rank actually does not mean anything in itself, it is just a tool to give you a bench mark of what Google thinks of the site. You want relative links first and foremost, but I also try to stay away from the PR0 sites no matter what.
      This. Plus the patent will be up in a few years and you can say bye-bye to PR. Until G possibly invents something else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrewsfm
    lol at saying a PR0 would be more powerful than a PR5-6 because it is relevant content.

    A PR5-6 would usually have a lot more quality back links going to it to give it decent juice and will of been around a lot longer also. More authority, PA/DA, decent links boom and outbound links.

    I worry when some of these people say this stuff and they are selling SEO services!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Andrewsfm View Post

      I worry when some of these people say this stuff and they are selling SEO services!
      I hear you ... but I worry a lot more when they're saying (or implying) that it's good to buy hundreds/thousands of (probably software-made) irrelevant/random backlinks just because "the more backlinks you have, the better".

      And a lot more still, when they're selling "backinks from PR-5 websites" without telling you that the link they're selling is (a) on a PR-0 page of the site, which (b) also has 100 other backlinks on it anyway!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonny2spoons
      Originally Posted by Andrewsfm View Post

      lol at saying a PR0 would be more powerful than a PR5-6 because it is relevant content.

      A PR5-6 would usually have a lot more quality back links going to it to give it decent juice and will of been around a lot longer also. More authority, PA/DA, decent links boom and outbound links.

      I worry when some of these people say this stuff and they are selling SEO services!
      Try to keep up. We are saying that you cannot (and should not) judge the merits of a backlink based purely on page rank. I own several PR6 domains that I picked up for less than $10. How? Because they have no backlinks which means no domain authority, no trust flow,nothing.

      So if someone offers me a choice between a PR0 and PR6 link I'm not going to make a decision on the context of the link itself until I know more about the domains. I certainly wouldn't just jump at the pr6 just be cause it higher page rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Good SEO cost lots of money today.

    You may want to consider outreach and guest blogging.

    Those are the only methods that may be accessible to you at the moment since you have low to zero budget.
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  • Profile picture of the author Laubster
    All depends on the backlink profile (as always). I've bought PR1 sites with strong profiles that jumped to PR4 during the last update. And vice versa. You pretty much always have to check the domain's links by hand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Imfactsandsecrets
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    Originally Posted by Zodiax View Post

    If you want to go the traditional route of organic traffic, do you think PR0 links will still work? If not, what are some low-budget ways that take hard work, to get some higher level backlinks?

    With anchor text.
    If its a good and relevant link, its good for your site. Don't bother too much about anchor text though. If it looks like you got a link to boost serps for a particular KW, it might actually harm you. Think in "organic" and more natural terms.
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  • PR0 still have value, obviously not as much as pr 1 -9.
    Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkgg
    Yeah they are better than PR N/A ones.

    But don't expect much and don't ever pay for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Right now you have no idea If it's a PR0 or a PR7 considering the last update was about a year ago.

    Check the backlinks for the backlink page, are there links from authority sites?
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    • Profile picture of the author chris_87
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Right now you have no idea If it's a PR0 or a PR7 considering the last update was about a year ago.
      Makes you wonder if the days of toolbar PR being updated are coming to a close.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

        Makes you wonder if the days of toolbar PR being updated are coming to a close.
        I'm sure PR days are numbered.

        I've never understood why Google had a public PR to begin with, no person outside of SEO ever cared about PR.
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        • Profile picture of the author chris_87
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          I'm sure PR days are numbered.
          I've never understood why Google had a public PR to begin with, no person outside of SEO ever cared about PR.
          I suppose once they stop updating PR, after enough time has elapsed, we will have no choice but to rely on third party tools to evaluate the effectiveness of a potential back link page. Especially for newer pages with links that have been created after the last PR update.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by chris_87 View Post

        Makes you wonder if the days of toolbar PR being updated are coming to a close.
        Matt Cutts has previously stated in interviews that "not publishing any PR information" remains a longer-term objective for Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Yukon is right, PR means almost nothing at best. You need to look at the backlinks themselves. Check the Majestic trust flow and citation flow. Find the page authority and the domain authority. SEMoz also has some metrics that should be good, although I don't' check them very often.

    You need to check the anchor text to make sure there isn't a lot of spam links, make sure there are mostly brand and URL or domain links. A scattering of keyword links is OK, but if the first batch of links in Majestic anchor text tab are keywords, then run away as Google has tagged that as a spam site.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      Yukon is right, PR means almost nothing at best.
      That's not what I said.

      PR still has value & makes it extremely easy to spot established authority sites. Authority sites have PR pages that have been around for years, those old links that generate that PR don't usually drop off because the supporting links are buried on the net. Sure it's possible strong links can drop off but all you have to do is check the backlink page link profile, either the links are there or they're not.

      I don't mess with stuff like trust flow, that stuff is a gimmick. Moz just makes stuff up to generate sales, can't blame them too much, they've pretty much mastered their sales funnel.
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  • Profile picture of the author bodmov
    Some pr 0 sites will be more on the next update.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    PR 0 backlinks can cause some serious movements up the rankings when created in bulk, but this could trigger an unnatural links penalty. They are great in small quantities for diversity or in large quantities as tier 2 or tier 3 links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Livewebmedia
    PR 0 links are some time good, if these Alexa is good and Google indexing or crawling is good
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